MorisUkunRasik
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People still take Konex seriously?
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2012-13 Oct/Nov NBA Season |OT| Mavericks Attempt To Defend Title
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Justin Timberlake
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You know he was doing 13/11/3 on 53/39/89 shooting last year right? And his oh so fragile body still managed 32 mpg
Players don't drop off that quick, especially without a major injury. He's had a few bad games adjusting to a new team. Its typical.
Hes still Steve Nash.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Man, trying to watch a whole replay thru on LP is alot harder than it should be. This shit sucks.
shira
Member
Ditch that offence where he does nothing.
Black Mamba
Member
What is the bet Dy and Adam have going?
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Eric Gordon vs OJ Mayo, Scoring I think.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
76ers coach Doug Collins was asked the other day if he was an analytics guy.
"No. If I did that, I'd blow my brains out," Collins said after a practice last week. "There's 20-page printouts after every game - I would kill myself."
"My analytics are here . . ." Collins quickly pointed to his head. ". . . and here." He pointed just above the white waistband of his Sixers sweat suit - to his gut.
smh old man. just retire and go back to announcing already.
"No. If I did that, I'd blow my brains out," Collins said after a practice last week. "There's 20-page printouts after every game - I would kill myself."
"My analytics are here . . ." Collins quickly pointed to his head. ". . . and here." He pointed just above the white waistband of his Sixers sweat suit - to his gut.
smh old man. just retire and go back to announcing already.
WesternHeretic
Member
Phil Jackson wasn't an analytic guy either.
I doubt few guys actually follow analytics, outside of maybe Thibs, lol.
Justin Timberlake
Member
I dunno. I've watched a lot of Pop interviews and he seems to be able to throw out stats at will. I'm sure he spends a lot of time looking at that stuff.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Neither is Pop right? I would think Doc isn't either.
Two bets in one sorta
Monthly - points total; eric gordon vs mayo (loser takes an avatar for the next month)
Season - points total; eric gordon vs mayo (loser takes an avatar for the offseason)
HE GON GET THIS WORK
Month-to-month and then season total: total points scored by either Mayo or Eric Gordon. Not points per game, not FGA, nor FG%, but total points.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Doug Collins doesn't have the talent level that Phil Jackson had. I don't want a coach who refuses to even consider looking at data that can help him better evaluate his team, evaluate what his guys can and cannot do and how he can help the players he has and put them in a better position to win. The way hes so utterly dismissive of them comes across as a guy who think hes knows everything is to know about the game and doesn't have to bother trying to learn more.
Compare that to a guy like Mike Dunlap. I'm not saying a coach should be using the data heavily but it wouldn't kill Collins to look at it and see what his players are good at and what they suck at and how to improve the team in general.
No, he was more of a replace the head coach of the team with the roster most ready to win a championship type of guy.
Not twenty pages full, dude.
Still salty.
Damn bro, you been on one lately. All this success from the Texans and Rockets be making you have balls again. Nice to have you back.
WesternHeretic
Member
I think Pop looked at some stuff, but overall I wouldn't call him a analytic guy. Pop did figure out the corner 3 was a really high percentage shot through stats.
I will bet you anything that Pau gets traded...
theignoramus
Member
its not like assistant coaches arent pouring over that stuff and telling him what's what.
I forgot. He also likes to sit on a taller chair than anybody else.
Pau to retire a Laker confirmed.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
And then head coach or GM
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Motivating Shaq for a year and getting Kobe to buy into winning basketball for a year was a pretty great job.
Most coaches could have won most of those rings though. Collins would have won a ton of rings if the Bulls just rode out with him because Pippen was developing regardless of who the coach was and just came into the league super raw.
His inability to contain locker room breakdowns at the end of both Laker eras was a pretty bad job though and should probably be held against him but coaches that have top 10 of all time players get all the praise and none of the blame.
Most coaches could have won most of those rings though. Collins would have won a ton of rings if the Bulls just rode out with him because Pippen was developing regardless of who the coach was and just came into the league super raw.
His inability to contain locker room breakdowns at the end of both Laker eras was a pretty bad job though and should probably be held against him but coaches that have top 10 of all time players get all the praise and none of the blame.
lawlohwhat
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I miss the b2b2b from last season. Can't say I would mind a thursday night 0-3 party with all you nice folks.
Syphon Filter
Member
adams going to jail now.
Future PhaZe
Member
Soo....best gaf.
I hate to say it.
BUT ITS TIME TO REVISIT BASKETBALL REASONS.
Everyone KILLED Lakers fans for thinking that the original trade was great for the Hornets, and gaf thought that that the Clippers offer was much better in the long run.
A couple of years later, is it even close?
Acquisitons from Lakers deal: Dragic, Lamar, Kevin Martin, Scola Houstons 2012 1st rounder (Jeremy Lamb) probably.
Acquisitons from Clippers: Eric Gordon, Kaman, Aminu, Sotas 2012 1st (Austin Rivers, or any other selection that went after him...all of which kind of suck).
It doesn't even really look close now. Martin and Lamars contracts would be expiring after this season, and Scola has a great contract. Dragic is a great prospect, and they would have gotten Lamb. They wouldn't have tanked quite as hard this season with those pieces...but the 2013 class is terrible. Once they dropped Odom and K-Mart, they'd have a clear opportunity to tank in a great 2014 class.
Instead they have an Eric Gordon that is just broken--and even if he wasn't, he clearly hates playing in NO. Oh...btw, his contract is TERRIBLE.
The draft pick was also awful--Austin Rivers is terrible. Clearly.
Basketball Reasons.
I hate to say it.
BUT ITS TIME TO REVISIT BASKETBALL REASONS.
Everyone KILLED Lakers fans for thinking that the original trade was great for the Hornets, and gaf thought that that the Clippers offer was much better in the long run.
A couple of years later, is it even close?
Acquisitons from Lakers deal: Dragic, Lamar, Kevin Martin, Scola Houstons 2012 1st rounder (Jeremy Lamb) probably.
Acquisitons from Clippers: Eric Gordon, Kaman, Aminu, Sotas 2012 1st (Austin Rivers, or any other selection that went after him...all of which kind of suck).
It doesn't even really look close now. Martin and Lamars contracts would be expiring after this season, and Scola has a great contract. Dragic is a great prospect, and they would have gotten Lamb. They wouldn't have tanked quite as hard this season with those pieces...but the 2013 class is terrible. Once they dropped Odom and K-Mart, they'd have a clear opportunity to tank in a great 2014 class.
Instead they have an Eric Gordon that is just broken--and even if he wasn't, he clearly hates playing in NO. Oh...btw, his contract is TERRIBLE.
The draft pick was also awful--Austin Rivers is terrible. Clearly.
Basketball Reasons.
shutup
lawlohwhat
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LegendofJoe
Member
Nola alone is responsible for their fuckups in the offseason. They should have (and definitely could have) shipped Gordon and some filler out to Phoenix for Marshall and Lopez and drafted Lamb over Rivers. Instead they have ynot 2.0 with an entitlement complex masquering as a PG and the highest paid player on their roster doesn't want to be there.
Future PhaZe
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yea and I just realized that Lamb actually went after Rivers...that's kind of crazy.
Damn, you still salty like them crackers they feeding you at the army.
I got to be a table over from Larry two weekends ago at a dinner in dallas. Great guy. Gonna do great things for their team.
That peanut butter is crack yo
LegendofJoe
Member
yeah, it was pretty damn stupid. Leonard would have been a much better pick as well. He and AD would be a beastly frontcourt in a few years.
LOL
brokenbeans
Banned
Quality keeps dropping for me or it says a game is blacked out, why? I live in UK never happens on PC.
CrookedRain
Member
Cmon Adam, how could you make a bet on total points? You should know better than anyone that Eric Gordon is hurt all the time. 
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
is Noriega white?
I'm pretty sure all the young coaches do. Spo, Brooks, Thibs, etc.... I think SVG was one too, as he alluded on the LeBatard show yesterday. Kinda like old and young fans with classic and advanced stats. I kinda frown on advanced stats, but only because they came long after I started watching. PEACE.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Any player other than Rivers would have been a better pick.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
What does it matter racist?
he normally isn't like this. Its only when he's around the homies.