Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
lol... Without Ibaka that claim for best team in the west is questionable... He knows it... Sam knows it and the agent really knows it.
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lol... Without Ibaka that claim for best team in the west is questionable... He knows it... Sam knows it and the agent really knows it.
True still find it incredible year after year how many bad contracts are given out and how nearly everyone scrambles to rid themselves of contracts after the 1st year or 2 lol.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
McGee is a great player. That's not what I was getting at.
And why the fuck are you so infatuated with making everything about Ryan Anderson? Your Garrity joke is so freaking stupid, the two players are nothing alike other than the fact that they are both white. Thats it.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Idk. What can he even do these days? Just seems like another battier to me.
jordan0386
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Like im saying, they got players to match the production.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Is that just a feeling you get? I don't want to see the team get blown up but I think one of them leaves because they won't turn down a huge contract...
LiveFromKyoto
Member
The Nets are way under the cap, so they don't have to send out the same amount of salary they take back.
No he's not a number one or two even three option. But rarely are plays run for him, and OKC's offense is so terrible that most of his shots do just come off of other people on KD or Harden or someone.
I think you guys really underrate him. He's got far from "some of the worst hands in the game" and i don't see a ton of easy stuff (dunks and putbacks) when he's out there more than i do anyone else, in fact it's less than many other teams.
I think he's leaving so we'll have to revisit this when he's on another team somewhere.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
If they had players to match the production they wouldn't even offer... Don't kid yourself they don't have a replacement for Ibaka if he walked now...
jordan0386
Member
Interesting. I thought the 120% salary trade rule was always in effect.
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
give LeBron a break?
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Roy Hibbert is getting the max??? So glad the Raptors traded that pick for JO. The NBA will never forget the Twin Towers East era.*
* I totally forgot it. It took me a moment to remember why they didn't keep him when they drafted him.
jordan0386
Member
Serge plays 28mpg. They can match the production.
He isnt as important as Ynot/KD/Harden
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Pat Garrity was a scrub. Ryan Anderson was quite good last season.
How can the Magic blackmail him anyway? He's under a guaranteed contract, what are they gonna do? Worst they could do is to make him stay in Canada for a year.
The ironic thing is he's the one who's doing the blackmailing.
We weren't even gonna draft him if we kept the pick. We were gonna go Jawai. ='(
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Rudy Fernandez is a UFA after not receiving a QO. Just say no, Kahn.
Red Blaster
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Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
I don't see it on their roster so..
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I bet you thought the Knicks signing Jerome James was a great move.
They've both said it. Of course, they could be lying but there's not much to dislike about their current situation. They're featured players on a team that just went to the Finals. If the money is right they'll stay.
The key is to keep them from hitting the open market. They'll re-sign Harden at the very least, then do some kind of sign-and-trade to get trade value for Ibaka if he wants too much money.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
lol what?
jordan0386
Member
Russell/Sefo/Durant/Collison/Perkins
Harden/Maynor/Jones3rd/Aldrich/FA pickup(waiver wirer)
Clutch lineup, KD at the 4.
^^^
That team doesnt win 57 games next season???
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Indeed, nothing to disagree with here..
They know their market values or at least their agents do.. It will be all about the balance of winning, and money and which is more important to them...
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
You were a Magic fan?
Explains a lot.
Judging a player by one playoff series either way is really not a good idea.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
That's pretty much the same record they had this year.. So basically Ibaka is irrelevant to them winning?
My Jameer Nelson defense never gave it away?
And Pat Garrity is just a prototype Ryno. They're the same player. Ryan is just better looking and youthier.
I don't understand your love for him. You can't build around guys like that unless they're Dirk-tier.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
He isn't even Sam Perkins tier..
jordan0386
Member
If they lost him two seasons from now, it wouldnt be that big a deal. He avgs 9 and 7. #shrugg.
Would we not be excited for Russell and Kevin if Serge bolted during his free agency? Simple answer is no.
Hydrogen Bluebird
Member
Poor guy. I wonder if he'll be able to go through an entire season w/o suffering a season-ending injury.
Kris Humphries and Petro are a better frontcourt combo than Ibaka and Perkins...
Ibaka is one of the most overrated players in the league.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I never said the Magic should build around him. But they aren't the same player at all. The latter has a much better overall skill set, he was top 5 in offensive rebounding last season and he doesn't turn the ball over.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
He is overrated to a degree... But that's some bullshit right there
You have to know falling in love with Ryno during his contract year and then proceeding to overpay him for the next 4 years is more than likely gonna bite you in the ass, right?
You have to know that, right?
He can't turn the ball over because everyone else on that team is turning it over before he can. His offensive rebounding numbers have always made me scratch my head too...
But they're the same kind of player. Stretch 4s who can't guard anyone and that are only useful when they're lighting it up. And if you're going to pay Anderson and you're in the situation that Orlando finds itself in, then you're committing to making him "the guy" in Orlando when Dwight leaves.
fuq dat
marathonfool
Member
$12.5 million for Batum? Kahn can have him. I wouldn't expect Batum to be much different from the player he is now. He's a role player on a good team. Easily replaceable at his position.
friskykillface
Banned
Hmmmmmmmm Rudy Fernandez, get him Danny
Do it Ainge
Peaches and Ruddddyyyyyyy = B^)
Do it Ainge
Peaches and Ruddddyyyyyyy = B^)
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
He never got a chance to start before this season ever. His per 36 numbers really weren't much better than they were 2 years ago, all he got was more playing time now. It wasn't a "contract year" by any stretch of the imagination.
Adam Blade
WWKC
... yeah, about that...
Naw, Ibaka is a fucking terrible rebounder. If you got him securing some of those Westbricks and clearing out space downlow while playing simply solid defense, then you don't have to worry about howthefuckdidhegetthatrebounds or putback dunks whenever the opposing team feels like hustling.
Red Blaster
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But Ryan Garrity has played in three playoff series and has been terrible in all of them
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