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2012 NBA Offseason |OT|They said I could become anything so I became multiple sources
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benjipwns
Banned
Dwight could go to New Orleans. Dwight-Davis-Gordon-Rivers-Paul
Or Cleveland! Play with Irving and Hall of Famer Waiters.
Or Cleveland! Play with Irving and Hall of Famer Waiters.
Haven't you heard? Detroit is back!
KingJ2002
Member
he's responsible for his legacy and setting the right example for up and coming players in the league. players will look at him and either see right or wrong in what he does. The teams will look at his destruction and will probably hold off on signing him because of his indecisiveness.
that would be a funny outcome... but bynum is still young... with a clear head and having a more dominant role... bynum would be looked at as the best center in the league.. given 2-3 years time.
at this point... i can't wait for this free agency to be over. sp much BS right now with dwight... i would like for it to end.
benjipwns
Banned
It's going to continue all year long until he's traded or when he becomes a FA next offseason.
He's only fucked over one team, and thats Orlando.
And thats as much to Orlando handling everything leading up to it poorly.
His FA has been terrible. But what 29 other teams do has no bearing on his legacy. He hasn't gone around promising other teams that he's interested in going there, or alluding to it.
You're making up stuff now.
Dwights a fuckn idiot, i mean, off the court he's a mental midget. No player should ever be looking up to him for off court guidance.
KingJ2002
Member
im not making anything up.
if he joins a team like the rockets or lakers and takes off for free agency... it shows he has no loyalty to his fans, team, or franchise... completely different from players in the past who hoped to play their years out with just one team... ring or no ring.
and players do look at other players in the league for guidance. dwight is a superstar... plenty of players are looking at him... he needs to set the right example.
Loyalty? to a franchise he's played for, for one year?
One he doesn't want to be on in the first place?
He's told Orlando he has 1 destination he wants to go to. Anyone else who trades for him is doing it at their own risk.
Thats not Dwights fault. Not in the slightest. How is it? what does he owe them? he was brought in against his wishes.
No one is looking up to dwight and for guidance at all in anything. Not the guy who's running around silencing babby' mommas with big pay offs, getting his cock out in other peoples bathrooms with porn stars.
You can criticise him for how he's gone about his FA. He should have just told Orlando 12 months ago "Nets, Now". And have been done with it.
benjipwns
Banned
Stats update...
Hawks, Celtics, Bobcats, Bulls, Cavaliers, Mavericks, 76ers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnFHT-BqgIfddFRGa1RqQmJDYmpwMFJNcTV0aHNfekE
The key:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnFHT-BqgIfddFJhQWlsVlJOR253TTI4Z3BDcENFR2c
Will update that, the cells are wrong now, shifted things around, deleted some redundant stuff. New fields are:
Jmp, 2pJ, 3pJ, 2pI, Scp are per 36 * eFG% (Last one is TS% instead.)
Def is a combination of defensive metrics as one. Mounds of salt please.
Hawks, Celtics, Bobcats, Bulls, Cavaliers, Mavericks, 76ers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnFHT-BqgIfddFRGa1RqQmJDYmpwMFJNcTV0aHNfekE
The key:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnFHT-BqgIfddFJhQWlsVlJOR253TTI4Z3BDcENFR2c
Will update that, the cells are wrong now, shifted things around, deleted some redundant stuff. New fields are:
Jmp, 2pJ, 3pJ, 2pI, Scp are per 36 * eFG% (Last one is TS% instead.)
Def is a combination of defensive metrics as one. Mounds of salt please.
Randy Johnson and Ken Griffey Jr both pretty much bitchassed their way out of Seattle.
Griffey was especially bad because he said he would only accept a trade to one team, so the Mariners had zero leverage and ended up not getting as much back as Griffey was worth.
With Randy everyone knew he was gonna get traded, his only thing really was wanting to go somewhere where he could win it all, so at the very least the Mariners weren't totally handcuffed in negotiations.
This is probably what I'm pulling for. If Hennigan ends up taking some shitty contracts just to get Dwight to the Nets he'll be run out of town before preseason.
And Bynum wants to chuck 3s, he would fit right in with the rest of the team & fans.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
SVG was one of the few coaches who actually realized the efficiency of the 3 point shot, I don't really see how this is somehow a point of mockery.
LOL no.
Bynum is a 7 year veteran, played for a HOF coach with a top notch coaching staff, including being coached by one of the best centers ever. And he has the benefit of playing next to another top 10 rebounder who can score, and Kobe. He isn't getting any better.
You're looking at his peak.
What loyalty? A player who is a free agent has every right to choose where he wants to work.
If he ends up on the rockets or lakers or any team before his FA period (that isn't his preferred destination), he did not 'join' that team, he was traded to them, so he would not be at fault in any way for leaving them.
I do think he is something of a bitch, and very selfish to boot. But he's damn good on the court and turns any team into a playoff contender, so if a team could make a serious title run with him...maybe he'd stay.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
happens all the time in all sports.. as long as he plays his ass off for that year and doesn't lay down on them.. why would you blackball him for that?
all his bs he did in Orlando is crappy.. but that aside leaving a team he doesn't want to traded to is really his right as a player..
What's more crappy is his BS about wanting/not wanting to be traded last year, and now he's basically saying he wants out of Orlando after just signing a 1 year contract extension.
He's being a completely unprofessional douchebag.
jordan0386
Member
Monday, NBA offices are open. This is the true first day of FA.
I expect two trades today.
I expect two trades today.
Please please please let one of them be Joe Johnson to Brooklyn.
Oh man, that would make my day.
...
Speaking of which, are there any Nyets fans here? I can't think of any.
jordan0386
Member
Not yet, lml.
Roger Danish
Member
soundscream
Member
Dude with the Humphries avatar.
Oh yeah, him.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
And I bet you anything Toronto makes it three after Phoenix and Miami do it.
awww shit
jordan0386
Member
He was going to the Lakers. He opted in, in hope, he eventually gets sent to the Nets.
His mgnt and adidas want him in BK. On the new team, for obvious reasons. Its not so much about playing with Deron. The DH brand will do better, sell more merch in Brooklyn.
jordan0386
Member
One yr of college. Play for the first team 7 or 8 seasons, then make it happen elsewhere.
Its an interesting way to do business. Top tier one team players for a career is done and dead.
Its an interesting way to do business. Top tier one team players for a career is done and dead.
I think he guilted himself into it. He knew he was being an asshole and wanted to try and repair his public image, but he didn't realize he was just making things worse by dragging it out.
The best thing he could've done was opt out and get the whole ordeal over with. He could've gone to Brooklyn as a UFA and stopped this nonsense from happening.
By demanding a trade to the Nets (and the Nets only), he has to hope that the Magic are willing to accept a package of mediocre and overpaid role players as compensation for the best C in the league. In addition, his bitchassness and indecisiveness has alienated any fans he might have had and made it impossible for Magic management to do anything productive to mitigate the clusterfuck he's created.
LeBron might be an egocentric asshole, but Dwight has superseded him IMO.
jordan0386
Member
Yea, He shouldve just opted out. He and Deron could have signed for a little less. And they still get Joe salary dumped to them.
hindsight...
hindsight...
Red Blaster
Member
Hennigan doesn't have to trade Dwight at all, he can just let his deal expire; Orlando only has J-Rich and Big Baby on the books for guaranteed money next year.
Guilt was a little part of it, but he also didn't want to be traded to the Lakers, which was close to happening. Could you imagine the bad Press DH would have gotten if he went to the Lakers in a trade for Bynum, and then went to the Nets? The hate would have been epic.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Dwight can still go there if he wants.
After this season.
I think there's a chance that the prospect of wasting another year in Orlando plus the inevitable negative media scrutiny will make Dwight relent from his "Nyets or Bust" position.
All I know is that I don't want Presti to touch him with a 10-foot pole. Having a fickle egomaniac like Dwight on your squad is not worth the risk.
He screwed the Nets bad. He was some how dealing with them under the table, but unlike Lebron, Wade and Bosh he's a dumbass and let the info slip out. Didn't want to look like a bad guy and that's why we got all the double talk bullshit from him.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Ya'll know even when I'm not posting I'm always lurking.
I said back when it happened that Dwight opting in was the dumbest career move - everyone knows he wasn't staying long term with the Magic, now he looks like even more of a jerk because he got his coach and GM fired.
I'm really surprised G Wallace resigned. A month ago, after we lost the pick to the Blazers, it looked like we lost out on potentially Davis, Wallace, Deron, and Dwight all in one offseason. I really don't see Deron staying still, he's meeting with Dallas before he meets with us, and an injured Dwight vs a healthy Nowitzki isn't exactly a good look for Brooklyn.
No matter what happens, I do NOT want Joe Johnson. Shit, I'd rather overpay OJ Mayo, he at least attempts to give a fuck half the time.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Pretty much but Q-Rich has a player option for about 3 million. Damn well he's gonna pick that shit up.
LegendofJoe
Member
The Cats are still in tank mode so I'm already looking ahead to the 2013 lottery (yes, it's the lolcats way). I've been watching whatever clips I can find of the top prospects and I REALLY like Isaiah Austin from Baylor. He's quite possibly the ugliest mother effer I've ever layed eyes on, but he can play. He's a good shot blocker, an average rebounder, and has a great perimeter skill set for a 7 footer. I still think Shabazz is the top guy, but from what I've seen so far I think Austin is the next best.
Honestly, I'm sick of guys like this.
If you're Kevin Durant, fine. But if you're that tall you should be working on your inside game and rebounding first, before you start learning to cross guys over and have "great perimeter skills for a 7-footer."
The post game is a lost art.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Austin moves terribly right now and his physique sucks and his skill set doesn't work because of that, he needs several years in college to become what John Henson is now. I think Adams and Noel are the top prospects for next year, but both guys are super raw.
problem with 7 footers at at age 19 is that they are stick thin aka not strong and so it is difficult for them to develop a post game, especially when you get someone like anthony davis who was 6'4" until like his junior year then he grew to 6'10" or w/e he is his senior year, and he kept his quickness.
not that i would say he should put off learning how to post up, but he has plenty of time to learn before he bulks up around 23
edit: although i guess they could try to perfect the hook
you should've seen my barb today. would've made all you cats fans proud
Davis is a really unique case.
But the biggest myth in basketball is that you need strength for a post game.
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