TheKaeptain
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Honestly I just don't like Bynum.
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Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
The fact that you want to trade the 2nd "greatest" center in the NBA is funny...
just last year Laker fans were saying he is the difference maker.. and now you have a PG that could fool the world into think he is a max contract center...
just last year Laker fans were saying he is the difference maker.. and now you have a PG that could fool the world into think he is a max contract center...
Black Mamba
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I only want to trade him for Howard and nothing else. We all agree Howard is much better.
Syphon Filter
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why?
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Yeah.. but for all the bitching about the Heat and super teams... it seems that trying to get a bench would actually make the Lakers much better than just adding Howard..
Atlanta must not think they can resign Dwight for sure. That's the only reason I would think.
On one hand, you have a guy whose ceiling is likely 15/10 (although his usage rate was artificially low due to Joe carrying the load, and his efficiency would seem to imply that he can score a lot more than he has), but his contract is affordable and under team control for another 3 years. Not to mention he's the hardest worker on the team, and he's completely unselfish. Not too many of those in the league, even with him playing out of position at the 5.
All things being equal, Ferry should be much happier to move Josh for Dwight, but that's not likely.
On one hand, you have a guy whose ceiling is likely 15/10 (although his usage rate was artificially low due to Joe carrying the load, and his efficiency would seem to imply that he can score a lot more than he has), but his contract is affordable and under team control for another 3 years. Not to mention he's the hardest worker on the team, and he's completely unselfish. Not too many of those in the league, even with him playing out of position at the 5.
All things being equal, Ferry should be much happier to move Josh for Dwight, but that's not likely.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Because he is a douche bag that broke Wallace's rib..
Black Mamba
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I am not bitching about "super teams."
Bynum for Howard is an upgrade. All upgrades are welcome. They don't have much room to improve the bench and benches don't matter much, Miami just proved this.
Take chances for what?
A single season of a disgruntled Dwight Coward rental to play with Josh Smith and Jeff Teague?
Atlanta just got rid of their worst contract in franchise history. They shouldn't be taking stupid gambles on anything right now but rather make moves where the least amount of risk is factored in.
Black Mamba
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And leave for what team? And maybe CP3 goes there after.
The rules change next year. He can't go to any team over the cap or any team without nearly $20 mil in cap room.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Actually they do matter a lot..
Without Shane stepping up throughout the entire playoffs I don't think the heat make the finals..
If they had a good 6th man who could provide them with spark every game they would be near unstaoppable..
Lakers don't have room to improve on the bench? lol Both of your stars are pushing 40.. and the most people couldn't name a player from the sorry group you call a 2nd unit..
This is too logical and rational for Lakers fans.
One season of Dwight is worth Atlanta's next ten seasons without him.
Black Mamba
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Shane stepped up for like 5 games total. And he started, wasn't a bench player. Your need 1 good bench player, 1 passable. Rest are irrelevant. Top 6 decides titles. Miami basically won with 6 players. Cole, Anthony, etc did jack shit.
And FWIW, I don't care if you're on the bench or not, I define starters by minutes played. Odom, Manu, harden were not actual bench players.
And only Nash is pushing 40. Kobe isn't pushing 40, he's not even halfway there in the 30s. I would love to improve the bench. Tell me how they can.
edit: by room, I mean able to improve it. Mini MLE and no trading assets.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
I want a shop where the Lakers have all the best players riding unicorns during the player intros
It's not like we're going to get any good bench players with our money situation as it is. So rather than worry about that why not go all in and get Dwight? Either way our bench isn't going to be great so may as well try to make a beast mode starting lineup then see if that can convince anyone to come to us for cheap.
Blackace
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reagrdless his body is pushing 40 from all the miles..
Most playoff rosters are about 7 deep..
you don't have anyone to give you Manu/Harden mins..
Xplatformer
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You are not alone.
Parking in handicap parking spots.
Underestimating a playoff opponent.
At times disrepectful to other players and team coaches.
Inconsistent on the defensive side of the ball.
Poor at passing out of a double/triple team.
Those are reasons why I too just don't like him. He has talent, but he's not what I want as the center on my team for the next 5 years.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Nash can pretty easily anchor the bench unit for the Lakers by checking out early in the first and then playing in the late first and early second and it would work fine. You don't need to label players as bench players or starters since those are kind of arbitrary sometimes.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Of course you want a player like Howard on the team.. It's really silly how quickly fans turn on AB for not wanting to go from the Lakers to the hot mess that the Magic are..
Outdoor Miner
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Looking forward to waking up to some Dwight to Chicago news. All this misdirection on both sides has been fabulously pulled off.
Herpes Reasons
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get 30 rebounds in a regular season game. Not giving an ounce of fuck for the remainder of the season.
This. Kobe ain't the athletic freak lebron is anymore where pushing 40 minutes and still remaining efficient is an option. Same goes for Bosh and to some extent wade. Our starting players are just too old to make such a run anymore. We need a more athletic bench to help out in the regular season too to keep our players fresh and give us a better record. I'm convinced if we don't get the first seed ain't no way we're getting out of the west.
Blackace
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Yeah he could.. but again I think you want to get major mins with Nash and Pau or AB on the floor since they would gain the most by his play...
Black Mamba
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Harden/Manu are their team's 3rd best player. Lakers would have 4 players as good or better.
harden/manu are starters.
Lakers blowing out teams again will help this. Especially if Dwight was here. Please, Lakers would win most of their games easily like in '09 if there is a drew-D12 swap.
iamshadowlark
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Thru the whole playoffs??
Come on, Miner. Give it up. Jump ship like I did it, before you drown with it.
Black Mamba
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Again, I am not turning on Drew. I'm only saying I'd move him for Dwight.
Lakers-age will tell you I'm the one Laker fan that constantly defends him in this place. I'm content rolling with Bynum next season, but if Dwight can be had I go for it.
I actually rather do this with Kobe.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
He had like 1 really good game in every series.. and really went off against the Thunder..
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
If Kobe would take that role it would make much more sense...
Herpes Reasons
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Wade is just as bad, or so I hear. Never tipping more than $1.
SMH
Also, Usher is notorious for NOT tipping deliverymen. Haha.
I don't know how much of a mess Orlando really is for anyone not named Dwight. Moneywise, things should be much better next year, still have the best arena in the league, nice weather, less tax, and potentially Brian Shaw as coach. -- Paying Lopez eight to ten figures a year cannot be any sort of answer, and certainly not doing so in order to create a super team in your own conference--all for 3 late round picks spread over the next five or six years. Hedo's contract is gone next year, and I'd rather pay J-Rich and Davis--are they even guaranteed in 2014?--then pay Lopez even more.
But meh, railing against the wind. Just gotta hope Hennigan/Devos aren't crazy.
But meh, railing against the wind. Just gotta hope Hennigan/Devos aren't crazy.
white dynamite
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Along with the Grant Hill talk, there was news today that the Lakers were interested in signing Meeks. It's not much, but it is an improvement over whatever Blake is offering as a 2 guard.
Herpes Reasons
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south beach culture.
being complete ingrates to service.
Herpes Reasons
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iamshadowlark
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i feel like i could get a lot of use out of this gif next season
CoffeeJanitor
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Dwight rumors should be banned from discussion
They'll never die
They'll never die
Anyone else fully expect Dion Waiters to be the best SG taken from this draft in 5 years?
I also greatly anticipate Waiters and Kyrie bringing a title to cleveland within the next 5 years (along with Thompson who matured greatly at the end of the season and became nearly a double double guy with just over 20 minutes of playtime). The future is very bright in Cleveland.
Zeller seems like a very safe pick with a low ceiling but high floor. I say cleveland gets the 8 seed this year, and becomes a playoff team from here on out.
I also greatly anticipate Waiters and Kyrie bringing a title to cleveland within the next 5 years (along with Thompson who matured greatly at the end of the season and became nearly a double double guy with just over 20 minutes of playtime). The future is very bright in Cleveland.
Zeller seems like a very safe pick with a low ceiling but high floor. I say cleveland gets the 8 seed this year, and becomes a playoff team from here on out.
The Frankman
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A very good SG? Yes.
Comparable to Beal? Yes
Better? Debatable.
THE best? Oh Hell no.
This. When The Dwightmare starts being worse than The Decision that's a problem.
what other SGs were even taken
edit: wow nevermind, like 10 in the first round lol
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