Can you explain to me how it's a better trade than what LAL is offering or even Houston? Also how did you convince yourself Orlando will have MAX cap room when they're going to be paying a guy MAX money? Salary caps how do they work?
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Can you explain to me how it's a better trade than what LAL is offering or even Houston? Also how did you convince yourself Orlando will have MAX cap room when they're going to be paying a guy MAX money? Salary caps how do they work?
Ninja Scooter
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People will be coming out to watch Brook Lopez?
There's some sick people in this world.
Black Mamba
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Ninja Scooter
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Duh who doesn't want to see a starting big average less than 10 boards a game? That shit's a a big draw just ask NYK.
LyleLanley
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ThisWreckage
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Didn't their GM just let Ryan Anderson walk? The most improved player of the year and a fan favorite? I think it's pretty obvious that this GM is going to get fired either way so he may as well have some balls.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
He also doesn't understand how NBA contracts work either.
Ninja Scooter
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Hey guys after the season the Lakers can just shed Kobe, Pau, MWP and Blake's contracts too! I'm sure it's not complicated, they have a whole year to figure it out! DWIGHT TIME!
i wish it wasn't bro
I understand, I understand.
Syphon Filter
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oh my god Ron Ron
Who are those two? They look a little too young to be Laker teammates.
Probably had a number of renewals after Dwight "opted in" for 2012-13, so they could roll out anyone this year.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The Magic will be terrible with or without Brook Lopez so they can just tank and hope Zeller or Bazz or someone else generates the excitement for them. Magic fans will just totally despise Bropez and want to watch the team less if they get him.
Colonel Nasty
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What going on in here? People actually think this is an okay deal for Dwight?
Yep because Brook Lopez is a high character guy with a max contract that will give Orlando max cap space and will help smooth out the rebuilding process. O and getting garbage and late first rounders only sweetens the deal. How could Orlando refuse that?
I don't think anyone thinks that. Not even the Nets.
Black Mamba
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Thank god Coach Kobe and Coach Nash will be there.
Lost our 80s evil villain dude.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
I think at most we have two people here (clearly smoking some bad shit) thinking it's a good deal.
As someone said earlier, I don't really see the point in making the Brooklyn deal (per Orlando's sake) except to get something instead of nothing. Lopez and likely a bunch of mid-to-late round draft picks isn't all that appealing. The growing sentiment here in Orlando is not wanting the magic to cave-into his wishes, as he's practically held the entire franchise hostage.
That being said, assuming they'd actually let him walk (which they won't) I find it hard to believe (complications aside) Brooklyn wouldn't exercise every possible avenue to get relief by getting rid of Wallace and/or Joe Johnson at some point. Building exclusively around Deron and Dwight.
That being said, assuming they'd actually let him walk (which they won't) I find it hard to believe (complications aside) Brooklyn wouldn't exercise every possible avenue to get relief by getting rid of Wallace and/or Joe Johnson at some point. Building exclusively around Deron and Dwight.
Black Mamba
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Did you?
lol, touche.
There is no option. They'd have to unload more money than is allowed. They cannot get Dwight. It's impossible. You have no idea what you're talking about.
LiveFromKyoto
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Of course not. I'm just using my years of experience as a fan of a team run by an investment fund to explain why GMs make dumb moves to keep their clueless corporate overlords happy.
ThisWreckage
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Salt and copious amounts of it. Even if they traded for Bynum, they have a garbage team. They're not going to be contenders or even a playoff team with Bynum. It is a complete gamble that he would resign there. Even if he would resign with Orlando, he has serious attitude and character problems. This is all a fact. Every deal they're going to get for Dwight is going to be garbage. I don't see how helping the Lakers win another title is high on their priority list. They have a better chance of tanking with Lopez than they do with Bynum. That is their plan. Besides, he wants to play for the Nets. He wants to be the alpha player on a team. Good luck being that type of player with Kobe as your teammate. Get over it.
Colonel Nasty
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The fact that this trade is even a possibility blows my mind. Even if this move is to tank being bad doesn't guarantee a good player. New Orleans is the exception not the rule. And they got Eric Gordon and a lottery pick for their superstar, not Brook Lopez and Luke FUCKING Walton. They're not even getting Marshon in this deal.
Black Mamba
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Why not trade him to Houston for better draft picks? or Dallas?
Lopez at max cripples them.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Bynum will have trade value next year, Lopez will not.
You do realize not just Laker fans are finding how stupid Orlando woud be to take this trade right? Houston is also a better option. The reason Bynum is talked about so much is the Lakers are one of only 2 teams ballsy enough to trade for Dwight without assurance he'll resign.
The Insane Dufresne
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I hope this Brooklyn/Orlando deal is bullshit. Even the dumbest GM in the NBA wouldn't trade Dwight for Brook Lopez.......
Don't give into Howard's demands.......At worst trade with Houston and get all those picks/young talent........
Don't give into Howard's demands.......At worst trade with Houston and get all those picks/young talent........
ThisWreckage
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Cuban is not going to go after Dwight on the prayer that he will resign there. The only reason why Houston is thinking about trading for him is because their front office is composed of morons.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Clearly ThisWreckage hates Houston like Dwight, which is why he's ignoring the best option for Orlando.
"The only reason why Houston is thinking about trading for him is because their front office is composed of morons. "
WTF does that have to do with the Magic GM being dumb? Take advantage of Morey and Les.
Black Mamba
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Except all reports have said Dallas, Houston, and Atlanta have all talked and made some kind of offer.
Syphon Filter
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lin will be with the knicks.
And uhh tell us how their offer or ours isn't better than the complete garbage Orlando is getting? In the current scenario the only team that wins out in the trade is Brooklyn. Also Houston is willing to throw anyone and anything at Orlando to get Dwight. That along gives Orlando prime leverage to pick whatever the hell they want rather than Booklyn giving up anything but their starters.
I think RBH posted an article earlier saying the ATL offer is off the table since they want to get reassurance Dwight will stay rather than give up any of their tradeable pieces.
Colonel Nasty
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We got a lottery pick for Kyle Lowry. But we're the morons. I think it's dumb it took us this long to tank but were better off than the Magic.
Apparently, they are worse offers than what they're seeing from the Nets.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Yea that ain't happening. Knicks match for sure.
ThisWreckage
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I don't pay attention to reports period. The information being spewed in sports media is an outright lie, at worst. It's hyperbolic and twisted, at best. Dallas had nothing to offer Orlando. Use your head.
Black Mamba
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If you're an idiot, perhaps. Lopez at max is worse than letting Dwight walk...
So then the proposed Nets deal is also not to be taken as anywhere near true. right?
Byakuya769
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Kobe Malone is best Kobe.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm
If the trade ships Dwight and JRich, that should give them a starting point of:
Hedo: 12.2
Baby: 6.4
Dudu: 3.9
QRich: 2.8
Total: $25.3M
They're bringing on Brook's max, Luke's expiring and 3 filler contracts. I think he's eligible for 5/$78M, so that's less than $16M added on. That beings their payroll to $41M, ignoring the filler contracts they sign, Jameer and the draft picks they sign (as well as cap holds). However, I don't think it's outrageous to think they'll have cap space to sign another max player. They can also try buying out Hedo and/or Q to try and free any extra cap space needed.
Brook is a good #2 option, and if you add a good #1, they're gonna be in better shape long-term. PEACE.
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