ThisWreckage
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The proposed Net deal is likely bullshit too. Maybe the Orlando front office is floating that out there to entice other teams to give them more. I was just commenting that I don't think it's an awful deal.
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The proposed Net deal is likely bullshit too. Maybe the Orlando front office is floating that out there to entice other teams to give them more. I was just commenting that I don't think it's an awful deal.
The Insane Dufresne
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I wouldn't be proud of that. Most teams are better off than the Magic right now.
Ninja Scooter
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Then why wouldn't the Lakers, or the Heat, or any number of teams do the same thing? It's not easy to just unload contracts like JJ's or Wallace's. And even if they find takers, they have to be teams with free cap space, otherwise the Nets have to take the exact same amount of salary back, which puts them back at square one, and unable to sign Dwight. So unless this coming offseason, teams like say, the Mavs or Hawks decide they really, really want Gerald Wallace or Joe Johnson and take them off the Nets hands, there is no way Dwight is going to Brooklyn.
Ninja Scooter
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On what planet is Brook Lopez a good number 2 option? Good for what? To be a 35 win team? He's not the 2nd best player on a playoff team, that's for sure. He plays no D and his offensive game is slow and limited.
Colonel Nasty
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Yeah all those free agents were just clamoring to play with Lopez before Deron got there... I guess they could trade for one with all those assets they have. Ask Daryl Morey how well that works. Billy King could probably trick them into taking Joe Johnson after this deal though.
CoffeeJanitor
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Yup. There have been constant new Dwight rumors like every day since what, last year? They're great for hits, that's for certain.
ThisWreckage
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And Bynum is injury prone, suspension prone, and has the maturity level of a 12 year old. Maybe Bynum would fit in at Orlando because he likes to shoot three pointers?
I don't why I'm hooked on finding any news on the deal when I know it could all just be fluff. From past years I already know by now that if Dwight is coming to LA no one will hear about it until its official lol.
Black Mamba
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JR is back baby!
ThisWreckage sounds saltier than everyone else here.
What? Why would it be "impossible" for Brooklyn to trade either player to a team with cap space or for expiring contracts? Please explain.
Yes I realize it's unlikely. Still, given the hypothetical for Orlando letting him walk - I don't see why Brooklyn wouldn't jump at the chance and try. After all, the Nets are (to date) the only destination he seemingly wants to play at.
What's lead you to believe all this? A career 17/7 guy is a good second option. He had a 18.8/8.7 season his sophomore year, and his skillset gives coaches something to work with. You're underrating him to make the Lakers' shitty offer seem better, but it's not.
Got nothing to do with the trade being better. That's all I'm arguing. If you try to consider why ORL would choose the Nets' offer over the Lakers' one, it seems to make sense. How well Brook can recruit is another. PEACE.Colonel Nasty said:
Syphon Filter
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nice.
ThisWreckage
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I don't care where Dwight ends up. He could rot away on the Bobcats for all i care.
Ninja Scooter
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Because nobody will want them. It took a fucking miracle for Atlanta to unload Johnson's contract and you think they're gonna flip it a year later? To who? Who with cap space wants an aging player like Joe Johnson or Gerald Wallace? It's not impossible, but using that logic any team in the league can clear cap space overnight and sign a star player. There's a reason it doesn't happen and there's a reason teams like NJ/Brooklyn and Dallas and Miami take 2-3 years of planning just to clear enough cap space to sign guys like Deron, Lebron and Bosh.
victreeb3l
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sweet.
ThisWreckage
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lol Why did they get rid of Pringles if they're going to be just like the old Suns team? Novak and JR Smith will chuck other teams back into games. Not to mention that NY is going to be a terrible team defensively.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The Knicks were pretty great defensively last year.
Black Mamba
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Well, for one, they can't trade any of them until almost 2013, and JJ has to be a one for one and I don't know if there's an expiring to make it work for him. Lopez will be a poison pill contract, making him even harder to move. By the rules on all of this.
Second, they're over $75 million. To sign Dwight, they'd have to get $20 mil in cap room. To do this they'd have to shed like $40 million in salaries. For expirings. How are they going to get $40 million in expiring (and Deron won't be moved) out of Joe Johnson, Gerald Wallace, and Brook Lopez (a PPP)???
This is an impossible task.
Sign and trades will be barred on teams over the cap. Dwight to Brooklyn is dead if he's traded anywhere else. period.
AgentChris
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We should sign another 2 guard as well.
Why would they consider the Nets deal if there was a better offer on the table?
As far as I know, there isn't any Pau Gasol/Jerry West collusion going on.
Like who?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Raja Bell
Black Mamba
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Because there are a lot of idiots running teams. Why did Ainge just give 4/36 to jeff green, someone who should be lucky for a vet minimum?
victreeb3l
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huh? and huhhh?
if novak even gets an opportunity to shoot the damn ball this season, it will be a miracle
Apparently, the Heat want him.
ThisWreckage
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Injuries to Amare and Carmelo generally tend to upgrade defenses.
Syphon Filter
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novak is pretty much automatic unless you actually stick to him.kidd will keep jr in check. if anything they will be better defensively with kidd.
AgentChris
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Someone not Raja Bell or Randy Foye.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
ThisWreckage
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Teams figured out how to guard him in the playoffs. He was bottled up.
You're drifting towards conspiracy territory. It's much more likely that they'll just take the best deal that is out there - which is the Nets deal right now - than the possibility that an entire front office doesn't realize that two is greater than one.
Someone? The Bulls just cut Ronnie Brewer, and NO ONE can run the baseline like him! We should get him.
The Frankman
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One team did. Not all teams have the Heat's personnel
and the refs
Courtney Lee would be good and cheaper than Foye.
AgentChris
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Heat D is too good. They embrassed Melo in Game 1 and destroyed Lin during Linsanity.
Poo's base running, as we speak.
Lakers should definitely try to get Lee before another team grabs him (Celtics).
True but I cant believe that the Rockets arent willing to rent Dwight and give Orlando their picks for him, which would be a better deal
Black Mamba
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Conspiracy territory? no. I don't think anything is shady. I think most teams are run by idiots basketball business wise.. Thought that before today, will continue to think that after. This would just be another notch on the belt.
IMO, I don't see how all the other trades aren't better, but Orlando is so convinced they have to send him to Brooklyn, they're trying hard. Or maybe it's all a ruse to up the deals of other teams. Or maybe they're idiots and think it's a better deal.
hell, why not wait til Dec 15th when other players can be traded?
The nets deal is shit. The status quo is better.
iamshadowlark
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The the Magic want another year of Dwight not giving a fuck? And I thought the other guys hate him now?
iamshadowlark
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link?
Terry Crews
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That would be glorious. Kyrie, Dion Waiters, Tristan Thompson, Andrew Bynum
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