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Ok, put clips of Kyrie, Chris Paul, and (lol) Tyreke Evans rookie years. Watch each, tell me who was a better rookie.
Evans... dominated games.
Ok, put clips of Kyrie, Chris Paul, and (lol) Tyreke Evans rookie years. Watch each, tell me who was a better rookie.
clips? what?
no seriously, i'm not trolling.
I am just looking at numbers guys. Not overall performance.
Clips as in footage from their rookie year.
Evans... dominated games.
Can we come to a conclusion that chris paul and kyrie both had equal rookie years?
NeoCavs need to shut the fuck up already
NeoCavs need to shut the fuck up already
If we are going by clips im pretty sure Jimmy is more skilled then all of them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&src_vid=2TbBYKCpBnc&feature=iv&v=cCjiga8vXQg
Didn't take over like Kyrie did!
Kyrie Irving and John Wall are the future of the league. I love the sound of that.
Clips as in footage from their rookie year.
If we are going by clips im pretty sure Jimmy is more skilled then all of them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&src_vid=2TbBYKCpBnc&feature=iv&v=cCjiga8vXQg
Nothing says "skilled" like a PG with tunnel vision who only knows how to go at one speed and ain't bout dat life of changing directions.
My problem with this debate is the notion that Tyreke is a PG or that he was even attempting to run an offense in his rookie year.
in a league where they call YNB a PG...
John Wall is the ultimate example of how different the NBA and pickup games are
Have you seen Tyreke try to use a pick? It's like "WHY ARE THERE MORE PEOPLE IN MY WAY???"
YNB can at least use a pick and run a bit of pick n roll. Have you seen Tyreke try to use a pick? It's like "WHY ARE THERE MORE PEOPLE IN MY WAY???"
shame on you cleveland, clippers, minny and charlotte.Jarrod Rudolph: Minnesota and Charlotte said to be the teams willing to facilitate trade Nets-Magic trade if Cleveland or Clippers back out, sources said. about 40 minutes ago
http://www.sportstalkflorida.com/insider-rockets-making-a-play-howard-howard/
"On Monday afternoon, it seemed like a potential three or four team deal sending Dwight Howard to Brooklyn was inevitable.
However, the deal never really made a lot of sense for the Magic. Theyd simply be taking back late first round picks, a bunch of one-year contracts and a center who is coming off a major foot injury in Brook Lopez.
Despite those problems and all of the complications in the potential trade, the Nets remained the clear favorite to land Howard.
Over the past few hours, things may have changed.
According to Alex Kennedy of Hoops World, the Cleveland Cavaliers are having second thoughts and may back out of the deal.
Just a few hours ago, Adrian Wojnarowski reported the Rockets were still trying to entice the Orlando Magic to engage in talks.
Early Tuesday morning, Sports Talk Florida learned the Houston Rockets are making a hard push to land Howard.
On Monday, the Rockets dealt Marcus Camby to the New York Knicks in a sign-and-trade, acquiring Toney Douglas, who has an expiring contract and Josh Harrellson, who has an unguaranteed deal this season. Jerome Jordan, who was also acquired by the Rockets, has the same deal as Harrellson. Unfortunately for the Magic, the Rockets have already dealt point guard Kyle Lowry, who has one of, if not, the best non-rookie contract in basketball, but they still have their three first round picks from this year in Jeremy Lamb, Royce White and Terrence Jones. They have all stockpiled future draft picks and have the expiring contract of guard Kevin Martin.
They have the tools to make an enticing offer if they wish. How much theyre willing to give up for a rental is clearly the key question.
The Nets should still be considered the favorites, but its obviously far from the lock it appeared to be Monday."
(Andrew Melnick is the ESPNFlorida.com Magic and NBA Insider)
Man I really hope this over in the next couple of days.
http://www.sportstalkflorida.com/insider-rockets-making-a-play-howard-howard/
"On Monday afternoon, it seemed like a potential three or four team deal sending Dwight Howard to Brooklyn was inevitable.
However, the deal never really made a lot of sense for the Magic. Theyd simply be taking back late first round picks, a bunch of one-year contracts and a center who is coming off a major foot injury in Brook Lopez.
Despite those problems and all of the complications in the potential trade, the Nets remained the clear favorite to land Howard.
Over the past few hours, things may have changed.
According to Alex Kennedy of Hoops World, the Cleveland Cavaliers are having second thoughts and may back out of the deal.
Just a few hours ago, Adrian Wojnarowski reported the Rockets were still trying to entice the Orlando Magic to engage in talks.
Early Tuesday morning, Sports Talk Florida learned the Houston Rockets are making a hard push to land Howard.
On Monday, the Rockets dealt Marcus Camby to the New York Knicks in a sign-and-trade, acquiring Toney Douglas, who has an expiring contract and Josh Harrellson, who has an unguaranteed deal this season. Jerome Jordan, who was also acquired by the Rockets, has the same deal as Harrellson. Unfortunately for the Magic, the Rockets have already dealt point guard Kyle Lowry, who has one of, if not, the best non-rookie contract in basketball, but they still have their three first round picks from this year in Jeremy Lamb, Royce White and Terrence Jones. They have all stockpiled future draft picks and have the expiring contract of guard Kevin Martin.
They have the tools to make an enticing offer if they wish. How much theyre willing to give up for a rental is clearly the key question.
The Nets should still be considered the favorites, but its obviously far from the lock it appeared to be Monday."
(Andrew Melnick is the ESPNFlorida.com Magic and NBA Insider)
Man I really hope this over in the next couple of days.
I don't buy any of this shit until it happens. Too many conflicting reports, too much bullshit. Hennigan trades him to the Nets, then he deserves every boo that gets fired his way, along with any other GM that helps out.
The Clippers getting Brooks makes some sense, but everything else makes no sense for anyone but the Nets.
You're a lot more optimistic about Wall than I am...Wall has better court vision than Rose. If he ever learns to shoot, he'll be a top 5 PG easily.
That many turnovers in his second year is scary though.
I don't buy any of this shit until it happens. Too many conflicting reports, too much bullshit. Hennigan trades him to the Nets, then he deserves every boo that gets fired his way, along with any other GM that helps out.
You've been brainwashed by DY and his jealousy of Wall.
Wow, so with Minny and Charlotte as willing participants, it's pretty much guaranteed that the deal will go through one way or another, huh?
The only snag I see is Humphries, but I think he'll be too weak minded in the end to hold up a blockbuster deal like this. I can only assume Charlotte would be more than willing to take everything that Cleveland was getting + 4 years of Mr. Kardashian with no problem, which makes things a lot easier.
Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell
I'm told the #Bobcats would be interested in Humphries if he signs a 1-year deal (vs. 4 years) Wouldn't have the same interest in Brooks.
If we agree to Hump getting anything more than a year we need additional compensation, it's a bad deal otherwise.
To be fair hump would be their best or second best player so if they can get him for like 4 years 32 mill along with any cash or picks it would be a good deal unless they get a pf in the top three picks in the next couple drafts.
.In an appearance on ESPN Radio Tuesday morning, Ric Bucher said that the status of the proposed four-team trade for Dwight Howard is "shaky."
"They're having a hard time getting that third team to commit," Bucher said, adding that Cleveland and Charlotte know "how badly Orlando and Brooklyn want to get this done" and are looking to get more out of the deal.
Bucher puts the likelihood of a deal at 60/40, down from 80/20 in the last couple of days. "We're going the wrong direction right now," he said.
Lol finally teams realize they have leverage.
Lol finally teams realize they have leverage.
i don't get why everyone wants Humphries with a one year deal, he's a solid player in a free agency where everyone is getting paid.
i don't get why everyone wants Humphries with a one year deal, he's a solid player in a free agency where everyone is getting paid.