Chad Ford sez it's so they can make a run at Nash. Deal would be #8 + some other players.
I would think Davis, Calderon & #8 might get them someone like Iguodala, but probably not Gay.
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Chad Ford sez it's so they can make a run at Nash. Deal would be #8 + some other players.
I would think Davis, Calderon & #8 might get them someone like Iguodala, but probably not Gay.
I've been saying this since last year. This draft fucking sucks.
Did someone post that PJ3 story of him having an Epiphany and "turning it around" so to speak?
Drummond is one thing. That kid is another
RedAssedApe
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LOL...my bad.
Blackace
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I think this draft is pretty good...
they are going to get an injection of SGs this year..
ItWasMeantToBe19
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This draft is pretty good. Gay is absurdly overpaid so trading him for the 8th pick would probably be an even trade.
Blackace
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if Barnes fell to the 8th pick.. which is highly unlikely..but possible.. then I would pull the trigger to shed the contract plus get talent..
Syphon Filter
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Welcome my new friends.
cr_blah_blah
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Is this purgatory?
No, worse. This is reality.
Blackace
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this is 2nd round 59th pickatory
AKA IWMTB's wet dream.
cuevas. PhD.
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Where's my 50 win ho?
MorisUkunRasik
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Squall ASF
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You seem pretty familiar with the lottery prospects, who do you think would be the best fit for the Suns?
We need a 2 but primarily, scoring so a high prospect at 3 wouldn't be amiss. Right now I'm leaning on Lamb, then Ross. I don't think Lamb will fall to us though and it's probably very likely we end up with Rivers. What are next year's PG prospects looking like? I figure if we go 2 and Nash bolts, we should have a nice early pick for a PG next year. My patience with the team really took a hit when we traded Dragic away
Squall ASF
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Sweeping them proper 4-0 is the last good Suns memory I have.
Blackace
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You seem pretty familiar with the lottery prospects, who do you think would be the best fit for the Suns?
We need a 2 but primarily, scoring so a high prospect at 3 wouldn't be amiss. Right now I'm leaning on Lamb, then Ross. I don't think Lamb will fall to us though and it's probably very likely we end up with Rivers. What are next year's PG prospects looking like? I figure if we go 2 and Nash bolts, we should have a nice early pick for a PG next year. My patience with the team really took a hit when we traded Dragic away
I don't think Lamb nor Ross falls to the Suns pick.. basically you're two choices might be Rivers (Duke SG lol) or Kendall Marshall (NC PG ROFL)
Maybe you can S&T Nash to a higher pick.. but kinda doubt that too..
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It does seem like Ross's stock has been rising so that may prove true. If Marshall could at least play solid defense, I'd be excited about him with his passing ability. I'm still old school in preferring a facilitator over the new breed of scoring PG but being a liability in O and D is too much. I really think we'll end up with Rivers if no one else takes him first, hope everyone is wrong about him.
I think Nash will stay here but it wouldn't be hard to S&T if we don't. I just wonder what we'd get for him. I can think of a few scenarios with the Grizzlies I wouldn't mind... Raptors want him bad but they don't have shit besides the pick.
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Who else would you want to take a flier on that could realistically drop to us? Harkless?
About damn time you took off the sweet lou avatar! I remember my dragic, before we made the dumbest trade in years. God I hate our FO.
ryutaro's mama
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Anyone but the Thunder. I don't care who comes out of the east.
Anyone but the Thunder. Fuck them to hell.
I'm outta this thread. Off to loserbro purgatory.
Ok fellow loserbros.
Be sure to give him a nice warm welcome when he gets here.
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Blackace
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MorisUkunRasik
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Both the agents for Phil Jackson and an Orlando Magic source denied Wednesday any contact between the parties about a role in the front office.
Sam Vincent was freelancing a proposal with no authorization to speak for the Magic, the agents said.
Sorry Redblaster.
Sam Vincent was freelancing a proposal with no authorization to speak for the Magic, the agents said.
Sorry Redblaster.
Squall ASF
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I was going to curse you but then I realized it could be worse, we could be the Raptors. Thank you for that moment of clarity.
Also, holy shit, when did Crimson's username change? hahahaha! Man, shows how long it's been since I've roamed the NBA thread.
Edit: Just checked the playoff thread... Crimson's meltdown and the responses to it had me rolling.
i had to change now that lou's had a play off run with the pacers. Feels bad.But yes, i said the dragic trade at the time was fucking horrible. And dragic's play with the rockets last year shows why. Kid was legitimately going to be our next starter, and very good. Now we have AB3. well, no, not really, he never came back from china.
I don't know, our pick is horrible and i'm not sure there is going to be any real talent around our level, i just don' think rivers is going to work out at all.
It's not the worst pick we'll have ever made though.
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But yes, i said the dragic trade at the time was fucking horrible. And dragic's play with the rockets last year shows why. Kid was legitimately going to be our next starter, and very good. Now we have AB3. well, no, not really, he never came back from china.
I don't know, our pick is horrible and i'm not sure there is going to be any real talent around our level, i just don' think rivers is going to work out at all.
It's not the worst pick we'll have ever made though.
Feels bad is right. Dragic trade was a final straw for me, I really didn't want to watch again until Sarver sells the team to someone else but I found myself watching every game anyway because I've done it my whole life and I don't know any different. So so frustrating and seeing Dragic play well in Houston just rubs salt in the wounds. I'd love to get him back but that'll never happen. Kerr would have steered this ship around...I could go on and on about the FO ineptitude. I think Nash will probably stay which buys us another few years to not find another PG sigh
Pretty sad that this off season will be ten times more interesting than our actual season was, no one knows who will be on the roster! That's why it's hilarious that they are trying to sell season tickets right now. What team, Sarver? You have a handful of guys under contract lol I'll take Rivers over selling the damn pick for money. Who knows? maybe Rivers turns into a star, no one can truly predict how a player will turn out. Cam Newton just shoveled piles of crow into everyone that watches the NFL this last season. I'm still praying that Sarver sticks to his 10 year plan and thus, will sell the team soon. It is our only hope.
Yeah, like I said yesterday, Sam Vincent was just desperate for the job and pulled the proposal out of his ass. Phil's not going to Orlando anyway. He's got his beautiful girlfriend living in LA.
Nash isn't coming back unless we sign someone.
Thats why i said throw max at eric gordon.
WTF have we got to lose?
Though i believe he's a RFA. So we can't really win either.
but yeah, getting rid of kerr when he had finally found his feet as a GM was a GREAT move.
on the upside, i love kerr as a commentator, he calls it how he see's it. He's great.
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You can't offer Gordon the max without rescinding the rights to Steve Nash first.
Phoenix this summer is at $80 million right now in cap holds. $17 mil with nash, $10 with hill (they'll rescind that) and $7 mil for Lopez (until they work out a contract). Also, $5 million for Aaron Brooks.
They'd have to rescind Nash, Hill, and Brooks to go after Gordon, it seems. And New Orleans just got Davis. They are keeping Gordon even if it costs $13 mil to start. I bet he re-signs before he his the FA market.
Assuming Nash leaves, I have no fucking clue where the Suns can go. Looks like a full rebuild to start.
Phoenix this summer is at $80 million right now in cap holds. $17 mil with nash, $10 with hill (they'll rescind that) and $7 mil for Lopez (until they work out a contract). Also, $5 million for Aaron Brooks.
They'd have to rescind Nash, Hill, and Brooks to go after Gordon, it seems. And New Orleans just got Davis. They are keeping Gordon even if it costs $13 mil to start. I bet he re-signs before he his the FA market.
Assuming Nash leaves, I have no fucking clue where the Suns can go. Looks like a full rebuild to start.
And thats why the suns would rescind everyone on the chance of getting grodon.
They've literally got nothing to lose.
Nash doesn't re-sign, hill doesn't.
Are you looking at THIS years salaries? cause i can only see the suns with about $30m on the books (with no holds).
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/suns.jsp
$50M of that is "holds" for guys that will get no where near those holds.
Rodeo Clown
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This reminds me that I heard him as an analyst on Mike and Mike or Cowherd or somebody the other day and was just shocked. Why are we asking Kurt Rambis about the coaching decisions somebody else made?
CommonSense
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Varejo to Portland for the later 1st round pick and a contract....
Blackace
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They are going to give you the 11th pick for Varejo? Pfft..
CommonSense
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A brother can dream.
Blackace
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Throw in the 23rd pick and you have a semi-realistic dream
CommonSense
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Shit, fax the paperwork.
Blackace
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CommonSense
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My office is sold on Harrison Barnes...keep hearing "upside" and "scorer" ...MKG stock seems to be descending because he "can't shoot" and "is inconsistent".....fuck it, I'm shutting my door and forcing mandatory saturday morning shifts.
Blackace
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If MKG makes it to 4 he would be a steal...
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So he says but I suppose he's one player I can actually trust to stick by what he says. The reason our situation is so shit is that we need to lose Nash and go in complete rebuild mode, but our FO is so terrible that I have no confidence it would be done correctly. If Kerr were still here and Dragic, I 'd feel pretty damn good about where we'd be headed. Sarver regime MUST end.
I've been clamoring for 1. Harden 2. Gordon all off season even though there's no way in hell it'd happen. At least not Harden, maybe NO drafts a top 2 and then lets Gordon go or Gordon demands to go since he wouldn't be the long term plan. There is no hope for us right now, only the prospect of a crazy shake up on the roster that no one can predict. I guess that's entertainment...
Agree but every time Kerr says something insightful, it just makes me that much more frustrated he isn't still here.
Harden will stay in OKC, and Gordon will stay in NOLA (especially since they're gonna get Davis).
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I know, that's why I said no way in hell that will happen. Still, you have to conjure false hope in your team's off season until they shatter it when FA hits.
What's funny is the Suns FO kept talking about how much cap they were building up, they didn't make moves last year so they could make a large splash in FA this year, almost all the players we signed/ extended were just one year deals last year, etc. Suddenly, it changes to we aren't necessarily going to spend at this FA because there may not be players worth spending on... Did I miss something? Did the FA options change from when they spouted the splash shit last year? This front office is a joke, funny they think they can carrot and stick Suns fans when we've been fucked over the past multiple seasons by them.
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