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2012 NBA Offseason |OT|They said I could become anything so I became multiple sources

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Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Well the Wizard may finally get his wish of a gutted team with D12.

edit:eek:k I guess a army of Forwards+D12.

It's all part of the plan.
 

scorcho

testicles on a cold fall morning
Amidst all the trade talk, not sure if this excerpt has been posted yet. I plan on getting the ebook later this week - https://www.readability.com/articles/eqauqn86

The Greatest Game Nobody Ever Saw

By breakfast this morning Daly had decided that his team had better beat itself up a little bit. The Dream Team had scrimmaged several times before this fateful day, a couple of the games ending in a diplomatic tie as Daly refused to allow overtime. He normally tried to divvy up the teams by conference, but on this day Drexler was nursing a minor injury and Stockton was still recovering from a fractured right fibula he had suffered in the Olympic qualifying tournament. Lord only knows how this morning would've gone had Drexler been available. Jordan had already taken it upon himself to torture the Glide in scrimmages, conjuring up the just-completed NBA Finals—in which Jordan's Bulls had beaten Drexler's Trail Blazers in six games—and taunting Drexler, "Stop me this time!"

So with two fewer Western players than Eastern players, and only two true guards (Magic and Jordan), Daly went with Magic, Barkley, Robinson, Chris Mullin and Laettner on the Blue Team against Jordan, Malone, Ewing, Pippen and Bird on the White.

The gym was all but locked down. The media were allowed in for only the last part of practice. A single cameraman, Pete Skorich, who was Chuck Daly's guy with the Pistons, videotaped the day. It was a closed universe, a secret little world: 10 of the best basketball players in the world going at each other. Daly had a message for them: "All you got now. All you got."

The absence of Drexler means that Magic and Jordan are matched up. "Those two going against each other," Dream Team assistant coach Mike Krzyzewski told me in 2011, "was the pimple being popped."

Jordan dribbles upcourt, and Magic yells, "Let's go, Blue. Pick it up now." This is what Magic has missed since he retired because of his HIV diagnosis in November 1991: the juice he got from leading a team, being the conductor, the voice box, the man from whom all energy flows. A half hour earlier, during leisurely full-court layup drills, Magic had suddenly stopped and flung the ball into the empty seats. "We're here to practice!" he yelled. That was his signal that the players were half-assing it, and the day turned on that moment. Magic had promised Daly back in the U.S., "I will see to it that there will be no bad practices."
Whole damn thing is worth a read, along with the book I assume.
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
Eric Pincus
The Rockets want Howard but they also NEED a positive end to their asset collection. If they can get Bynum, given Dwight saying long-term he won't say in Houston - then maybe that's a compromise everyone willing to accept. With the Brooklyn non-deal as a model, clearly these things don't come easy, at all Read more › - Houston would love to just deal straight up with Orlando. The Magic like the idea of less $ locked in and a ton of prospects. We shall see.

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
In short: Lakes need 3rd team to do Dwight deal. Nets do NOT but direct ORL deal TRICKY. Rockets can do it direct or facilitate & get Bynum

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8...loring-other-dwight-howard-trades-source-says

The Houston Rockets have joined the Los Angeles Lakers and the Brooklyn Nets as the most serious potential trade partners with the Orlando Magic on a Dwight Howard deal, according to sources close to the process.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Rockets are discussing a multitude of trade scenarios with the Magic, offering to serve both as the team that would acquire Howard in a direct trade between the clubs and also as a third team that would participate in a trade that lands Howard with the Lakers and brings All-Star center Andrew Bynum to Houston.

The Rockets, in the latter scenario, would push to acquire Bynum from the Lakers while furnishing the Magic with a package of future draft picks and cap-friendly contracts to set Orlando up for a full-fledged roster reload. Sources confirmed a HoopsWorld.com report that the three-team trade construction that sends Bynum to the Rockets instead of the Magic -- with Orlando said to be concerned about its ability to re-sign Bynum for the long term -- gained traction Tuesday
 

thekad

Banned
Don't care about this team other than Lamb and Motiejunas. Would like to keep Royce White for shits and giggles, but it's not important. Keep our only two guys with all-star potential and I'll allow Morey to fuck up the tank for one more year.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Morey would be happy.

Until he's fired the next season.

They don't have to fire him, his contract is up this season. They just part ways.

Wait... I thought you cared about Asik the future Rocket destroyer?
 

SamuraiX-

Member
I would laugh if Orlando and Houston do direct swap of Howard for picks, Dwight plays out his contract as a Rocket and then signs with Brooklyn next offseason.

Morey's wizardry strikes again!
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
the only way a 3way works is if houston gets bynum and LA gets dwight.
no other way around that.
It would be a win-win-win for all sides. Rockets get a coveted big man, Lakers get Howard, and Magic get good picks, along with a chance to reload their roster. Would be much better than what Nets are offering.
 

bjb

Banned
Reading Dwightmare kinda puts things into perspective. Also listening to the author was neat too. Dwight has been really childish (and selfish at times), but at the end of the day he really just wants two things; to win a ring and play in Brooklyn. He's told the Magic front office for years he's losing / lost confidence in them to build a winner. Alternatively he's been "blown away" and captivated by Brooklyn's approach and attitude towards winning. Where he was once undecided about the city (Orlando) - he now just wants out. To start over. He's told friends that going to Brooklyn - he's carving his own path. Building something "new". Going down in history as champions for what he helped create, and not on the backs of other people or past teams.

The longer this drags out the more it just demonizes him. I guess it's good for the league, though (publicity wise).
 

thekad

Banned
They don't have to fire him, his contract is up this season. They just part ways.

Wait... I thought you cared about Asik the future Rocket destroyer?

I don't care about him. I just said he's a lot better than the scrub you think he is.

And he has nothing to do with this trade that will never happen anyway.

I would laugh if Orlando and Houston do direct swap of Howard for picks, Dwight plays out his contract as a Rocket and then signs with Brooklyn next offseason.

For the mini MLE. It needs to happen.
 

Smokey

Member
bynum to houston is a real possibility? apparently he's listed houston as one of the teams he'd resign with? also heard earlier that houston was offered bynum + 24th pick for lowry, scola (i think), and the 3 first round picks before the draft and morey declined

fuck who knows shit makes my head hurt
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
I don't care about him. I just said he's a lot better than the scrub you think he is.

And he has nothing to do with this trade that will never happen anyway.

No he is the scrub I think he is. You already have Royce White being a scrub... so it evens out.
 

thekad

Banned
I don't think the Hawks would trade both Josh Smith and Al Horford for one year of Dwight so there's no reason to deal with them over the Lakers.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Honestly deal straight up with the Rockets is best case scenario. Blow that shit up. Dump some bad contracts, pick up Martin, pick up young players, pick up picks.
 

pilonv1

Member
just a belated shot at pillonv1.

Fans revolted after Ellis was dealt. I'd want to see them the first few games of the new season, because they were pissed off management "bailed out on the season" in their eyes.

You think trading Monta Ellis away is going to be the straw that broke the camels back after 1 playoff appearance in 18 seasons? Worse shit than that has gone down and support for the team never wavered. The Golden State fans will always support the team.

The "revolt" was aimed at the front office, and more specifically the owner who puts his nose in where it isn't needed.
 
All the Lakers have to do to make this happen is get Bynum to sign an extension to play in Houston.

Kevin Martin,
1 or two guys from the stock of PFs,
the Toronto pick,
and Houston's 2013 1st to Orlando

Dwight to the Lakers

TurkeyGlue,
J. Rich,
and Bynum to the Rockets
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
bynum to houston is a real possibility? apparently he's listed houston as one of the teams he'd resign with? also heard earlier that houston was offered bynum + 24th pick for lowry, scola (i think), and the 3 first round picks before the draft and morey declined

fuck who knows shit makes my head hurt

You wouldn't feel just a little ill rooting and hoping Bydumb resigns with us? This whole situation puts my loyalty to the Rockets in a new place.
 

bjb

Banned
You think trading Monta Ellis away is going to be the straw that broke the camels back after 1 playoff appearance in 18 seasons? Worse shit than that has gone down and support for the team never wavered. The Golden State fans will always support the team.

The "revolt" was aimed at the front office, and more specifically the owner who puts his nose in where it isn't needed.

Even after they bail for San Francisco?
 

thekad

Banned
Teague is pretty average.

All the Lakers have to do to make this happen is get Bynum to sign an extension to play in Houston.

Kevin Martin,
,
the Toronto pick,
and Houston's 2013 1st to Orlando

Dwight to the Lakers

TurkeyGlue,
J. Rich,
and Howard to the Rockets

Our lottery protected first belongs to the Hawks actually, though we could trade off the rest of the protection or something like 3-14.

And we're not taking the bad contracts and not getting Dwight and sending the desired pieces to Orlando. Hedo and JRich go to Los Angeles.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
All the Lakers have to do to make this happen is get Bynum to sign an extension to play in Houston.

Kevin Martin,
1 or two guys from the stock of PFs,
the Toronto pick,
and Houston's 2013 1st to Orlando

Dwight to the Lakers

TurkeyGlue,
J. Rich,
and Howard to the Rockets

So Dwight goes to the Lakers and the Rockets get Howard? Let's split this bitch in half.
 

pilonv1

Member
Wright actually played -ok- two seasons ago. Was plagued with injury this past year.

Clearly Golden State has no intention of winning anytime soon. I guess they're just trying to free up minutes for Harrison Barnes. The fucking Sjack for Jefferson trade made no sense to me, though.

Wright was hopeless last year. Not just injured. His shot wasn't falling and he lost all confidence. Was no longer aggressive going to the basket and would pass out of easy layups. Even his defense was terrible. All he can do now is shoot threes. He's like a younger Rashad Lewis.

They moved him because they have a glut of small forwards (Wright, Barnes, Rush - RFA, Green, McGuire - FA), and they want to re-sign Rush and possibly McGuire. They had been dangling Wright to other teams for weeks. Now they have a bit more cap room to match deals for Rush and bring someone else in.
 

thekad

Banned
Random PG
Lamb
Parsons
Motiejunas or TJones or White maybe
Bynum

I guess that team could be interesting in a few years.

It'd be sort of like the team we were planning to have with Yao (except Bynum can't hold Yao's jockstrap at this point):

Brooks
Kmart
Battier
Scola
Yao

What could have been :(
 

NervousXtian

Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Blazers not going to offer Hibbert. Not tyin' up that money.

Might as well let Batum walk.. get some major cap space and just wait it out.

You're going to suck with or without Batum.

Unless we can get say D.Williams or Ridnour for Batum.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
got damnit

I would have to cheer for fucking Bynum?

Don't worry, he will get injured like most Houston players and it will be like he was never here... except our team takes a step back even more.
 

giga

Member
Lou is signing for the MLE. Since we need someone to pick up some points without jj, I'll take it. Hope we resign Tracy.
 
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