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2012 NBA Offseason |OT|They said I could become anything so I became multiple sources
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MorisUkunRasik
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He thinks he got traded to Dallas.
LegendofJoe
Member
We just hired a coach who said he wants to build around his strengths on offense?
He has strengths now!?
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Mike Dunlap's offense maximizes being short and overthinking things. The inverse Javale Offense.
CrazyDogg77
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Those new unis are horrible. Man.
LegendofJoe
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His dribble drives and ability to draw fouls are his main strengths. He has a decent stroke at the FT line too, that's about it though. I think he can be about as good as Ty Lawson is now if he really works on his shot.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
How does Ernie Grunfeld still have a job?
E: The Wizards are taking back ~$42M in committed salary over the next two years for a player that is redundant and another that sucks.
Is it any wonder why they're terrible?
E: The Wizards are taking back ~$42M in committed salary over the next two years for a player that is redundant and another that sucks.
Is it any wonder why they're terrible?
LegendofJoe
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Nene and Okafor? Has Nene played much PF?
I don't know. They got rid of Lewis' expiring contract and now have on roster:
1) Nene (4yrs, $52mil)
2) Okafor (2yrs, $28mil)
3) Ariza (2yrs, $15mil)
Wow. 2/3 of their cap is used up by those three players.
Ken Berger said:
wooow
The Frankman
Banned
Wait... don't Wizards still have Blatche or is he a FA? Because if he's not someone is getting dealt. I can't see Nene going to the bench.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
And the Hornets can buy out Rashard's contract too. They're saving like $30 million. They have the #1 pick and still have Gordon.
You people really think Grunfeld did this deal? Stern is running it all. Why isn't he stepping in for basketball reasons? No fucking idea what the Wizards are doing. But it's ugly.
You people really think Grunfeld did this deal? Stern is running it all. Why isn't he stepping in for basketball reasons? No fucking idea what the Wizards are doing. But it's ugly.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
I loved his tweet about the Wizards thinking playoffs. Yeah, Trevor Ariza's 40% field goal shooting will put them over the top.
marathonfool
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Wizards won't be the worst team in the NBA anymore. They'll still be bad though.
I assume the plan is to buy out Rashard Lewis for 14 million which will clear 14 million from our cap space this year and then we clear 22 million from next year.
If that's the plan I like the move. I've been frustrated with Ariza for some time now and oak, while decent, is just paid far too much for what he brings.
If that's the plan I like the move. I've been frustrated with Ariza for some time now and oak, while decent, is just paid far too much for what he brings.
The Frankman
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darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
The worst team in the NBA isn't the team with the worst record. It's the team that is loaded with awful shitty contracts that still can't even make the playoffs or if they do they get the #8 seed and then crushed in the first round.
The Wizards are now a poor mans Knicks.
LegendofJoe
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I think Blatche is on contract until the 2014-15 season.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Pretty sure the Wizards are going to amensty Blatche now right? It really doesn't make any sense to keep him.
How much cap space do the Hornets have? It's got to be some absolutely ridiculous number now.
How much cap space do the Hornets have? It's got to be some absolutely ridiculous number now.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Yeah, he's owed $23M over the next 3 years.
Future PhaZe
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It actually goes up now, unless we are planning to buy him out for 14 million(his salary is 22 million but he has a buy out clause for around 14 million), which I hope is the plan. Otherwise I don't understand the trade.
If we buy him out we save 6 million this year and 22 million next(I believe).
lol kad why you so jealous? I mean the Rockets got Patrick Patterson in that draft
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lol
MorisUkunRasik
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League owned team unloads shit contracts on Wiz in exchange for 2013 first round pick.
Book it. Sorry DY.
Book it. Sorry DY.
The Frankman
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1) Nene (4 years, $52mil)
2) Okafor (2 years, $28mil)
3) Blatche (3 years, $23M)
Now Nene is kinda overpaid at C, but he can be a 20/8 guy in the East. Okafor is your PF I'd think (hella overpaid) but he replaces McGee for shotblocking and isn't a Grade A moron. Blatche makes the least per year of the three but you gotta amnesty that mofo ASAP. Finish the job of getting all the morons off the team.
The thing is, it's going to be kinda of hard for Wall to run with a Nene/Okafor starting lineup. Nene wasn't exactly in great shape last year and Okafor... dose hands, man.
Assuming Blatche is amnestied Wizards starting Lineup:
C - Nene
PF - Okafor
SF - Ariza or Singleton?
SG - ?
PG Wall
2) Okafor (2 years, $28mil)
3) Blatche (3 years, $23M)
Now Nene is kinda overpaid at C, but he can be a 20/8 guy in the East. Okafor is your PF I'd think (hella overpaid) but he replaces McGee for shotblocking and isn't a Grade A moron. Blatche makes the least per year of the three but you gotta amnesty that mofo ASAP. Finish the job of getting all the morons off the team.
The thing is, it's going to be kinda of hard for Wall to run with a Nene/Okafor starting lineup. Nene wasn't exactly in great shape last year and Okafor... dose hands, man.
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21 Morris Almond SG 27 6-6 225 Rice $75,793
7 Andray Blatche PF 25 6-11 260 $6,442,083
35 Trevor Booker PF 24 6-8 240 Clemson $1,294,920
43 Brian Cook PF 31 6-9 250 Illinois $1,223,166
15 Jordan Crawford SG 23 6-4 195 Xavier $1,120,440
6 Maurice Evans SF 33 6-5 220 Texas $854,389
22 Shelvin Mack G 22 6-3 207 Butler $473,604
20 Cartier Martin GF 27 6-7 220 Kansas State $199,816
42 Nene C 29 6-11 250 $13,000,000
13 Kevin Seraphin F 22 6-9 275 $1,680,360
31 Chris Singleton SF 22 6-8 230 Florida State $1,485,000
3 James Singleton PF 30 6-8 230 Murray State $151,585
24 Jan Vesely F 22 6-11 240 $3,065,040
2 John Wall PG 21 6-4 195 Kentucky $5,530,080C - Nene
PF - Okafor
SF - Ariza or Singleton?
SG - ?
PG Wall
LegendofJoe
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I think it's safe to say at this point that Wall is going to get as far away from Washington as he can when he fits free agency.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8...-emeka-okafor-trevor-ariza-rashard-lewis-pick
Good to hear that's the plan. Should allow us to make a run at a solid contributor this year and a max guy next year......though I still can't fathom a superstar coming to new Orleans unless we make a run this year.
marathonfool
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You probably can't get a max guy next year, but you can pay a guy the max. Harden future my man.
That's why I hope our new regime will be more value conscious going forward. We're not a destination spot and the last thing we need to do is rush out and sign another Peja or Posey type contract this or next year that strangles us for five years and sets us back long term.
I'd rather nab some role players, tank again this season and then grab a good starter in FA next year, hopefully draft well, and go more of the Thunder route. Slowly uild instead of trying to force it.
I guess it depends on whose team you root for? For us it's great.........and you didn't see them play because they were injured most of the year. They are 4th and 5th options on a championship type team(though ariza thinks he's a first or second option) and both are really solid defensively
MorisUkunRasik
Member
You ready for the most expensive tank ever?
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
LegendofJoe
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At this rate NOLA is going to be the Miami Heat of the West, and deservedly so in my opinion. I hope hornets fans like hate because they're going to be getting a steady diet of it.
Why exactly?
MorisUkunRasik
Member
I guess they got the injury prone SG already
I'd say the Hornets are off to a damn good start if they keep Gordon and Davis turns out to be as good as we think.
The Frankman
Banned
Them getting hate?
Hell no, if any team is going to be the Heat of the west, it might as well be the Lakers.
LegendofJoe
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1) Basketball Reasons
2) The 2012 Lottery
3) This horribly one-sided trade
Eric Gordon wishes he had the acting ability of Wade.
So basically hated by people that are mad because Stern overrode Demps boneheaded trade, who also happen to be idiotic conspiracy theorists and don't realize that the ownership transfer finalized on Friday - or I guess maybe your implying with number three that good moves by GM's should be hated now?..........Got it!
The Frankman
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Not to mention the Lottery was witness by like every team in the Lottery making it virtually impossible to rig.
LegendofJoe
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The Stern vetoed trade is a legitimate reason to dislike the Hornets, so no real refutation there. The lottery was just pure luck, and for an already incredibly lucky franchise it was just icing on the crap cake for a Bobcat fan like me. And this trade just doesn't make any sense from the Wizards POV. Their GM has already proven himself to be retarded though so point conceded there I guess.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Wait, now 4 of the Wizards' 5 best players are big men (Nene, Okafor, Seraphin, Booker) and the guy they drafted 6th overall last year is also a big man, what is the plan?
Future PhaZe
Member
i feel a bit sad
like all i wanna do is sleep all day
like all i wanna do is sleep all day
The Frankman
Banned
wat.
Booker although good isn't Top 5. Seraphin is a scrub and not remotely Top 5 on that team.
acquire Al Jefferson.
I'd say after years of Shinn and Bower and losing CP3 we deserve a little bit of luck here.
And why does Sterns veto carry over to a regime that literally had nothing to do with Sterns actions? I guess I could see that being a legitimate reason to hate Stern, but not quite understanding why the Hornets would deserve that blame?
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