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2012 NBA Playoffs |OT2| OKC VS LA: Black on Black Crime
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Big picture though is that Wade's leg injury's back, Boshraptor is out for the series, and the Heat bench is being decimated on both ends of the floor. The 2-1 lead would be laughable if the heat were firing on all cylinder's but they aren't and it's all down hill from here. Expect them to go down 3-1 on sunday and ultimately get bounced in like 6 unless there's a miracle.Greatest 2-1 deficit of ALL
TIME
ClovingWestbrook
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It's not about years played. It's about age. People always seem to forget this.
And at age 30 Dwade is worse than Kobe at 33. So yea.
captmcblack
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It's not about years played. It's about age. People always seem to forget this.
Age, as in the number?
Wasn't Karl Malone a monster until he was like, 38 or something?
It's all about the tread on your tires, relative to your conditioning.
ClovingWestbrook
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No matter what happens this year the Heat would be smart to trade Wade. Them be the facts.
MorisUkunRasik
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Know what amazes me? This is DWades 9th year in the league. He's played seven less years than Kobe Bryant. DWade is breaking down in his 9th year in the league. He is being outplayed by a 16 year veteran (I'm referring to in general, not one series).
Wade relies heavily on athleticism, with the condensed season I get the sense that he gets run down.
He's made of glass and is having to play a whole lot of minutes. No shock that he throws out a stinker every now and then.
Chalmers won't get 25 but Wade will get 20-30. Depending on his effeciency they either win by single digits or lose by single digits.
Don't think we'll see that good of a game from Hibbert either.
Big picture though is that Wade's leg injury's back, Boshraptor is out for the series, and the Heat bench is being decimated on both ends of the floor. The 2-1 lead would be laughable if the heat were firing on all cylinder's but they aren't and it's all down hill from here. Expect them to go down 3-1 on sunday and ultimately get bounced in like 6 unless there's a miracle.
This Pacers team was trying to give the game away all the way into the fourth and would've had anyone other than Chalmers given a fuck. They choke more than any other team in the league. In the East. There's no way they close out this series. Especially if it goes 6 or 7.
Sho_Nuff82
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Bosh gets ignored by his own team for almost all of two years and now he's the centerpiece of the Heat.
fucking shameless
Haha
I missed some epic meltdowns from last night. Without Bosh, who is their best post player and their best pick and roll target, the Heat are reliant on Jones, Chalmers, Battier, and Miller hitting shots when teams close the lane. They did so just last series, particularly in the closeout game against the Knicks. Even if Lebron and Wade drop 60 game, those guys have to give you 40 to have a chance.
MorisUkunRasik
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No matter what happens this year the Heat would be smart to trade Wade. Them be the facts.
To who, for what? He makes no sense for pretty much every team.
ClovingWestbrook
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Wade relies heavily on athleticism, with the condensed season I get the sense that he gets run down.
He's made of glass and is having to play a whole lot of minutes. No shock that he throws out a stinker every now and then.
Chalmers won't get 25 but Wade will get 20-30. Depending on his effeciency they either win by single digits or lose by single digits.
Don't think we'll see that good of a game from Hibbert either.
No doubt that Wade relies heavily on athleticism but so does Kobe.
To who, for what? He makes no sense for pretty much every team.
I never said it'd be easy but Wade on this team is going to hurt the Heat going forward. If Riles could some how parlay Wade off for a couple of B quality players to surround Bosh and Bron, it'd be a great move.
Sho_Nuff82
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To who, for what? He makes no sense for pretty much every team.
Wade/Anthony to Nuggets for Afflalo/Mozgoff/Dre.
i have no idea if this works.
captmcblack
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Without Bosh, who is their best post player and their only real pick and roll target, the Heat are reliant on Jones, Chalmers, Battier, and Miller hitting shots when teams close the lane. They did so just last series, particularly in the closeout game against the Knicks. Even if Lebron and Wade drop 60 game, those guys have to give you 40 to have a chance.
This.
Also, fixed - nobody believes that any one of Haslem, Battier, Pittman or Turiaf is a real pick and roll threat, so Pacer defenders all stay home on the guy that isn't Wade/James on the pick and roll.
The Heat need to find a way to get Roy Hibbert out of the paint - in this series without Bosh, he is pretty much the only defender the Pacers need to defend the interior effectively. That way, any double-teaming IND needs to do can be done against James and Wade only. If the Heat can get Hibbert to move, and those other role players can make some shots, the series can become normal again for MIA. I don't believe that they can be that fucked already. I don't believe LBJ is so weak that he can get beat up so badly being a 4. It just doesn't make sense.
MorisUkunRasik
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No doubt that Wade relies heavily on athleticism but so does Kobe.
I never said it'd be easy but Wade on this team is going to hurt the Heat going forward. If Riles could some how parlay Wade off for a couple of B quality players to surround Bosh and Bron, it'd be a great move.
Wade's game is completely based on speed. Even if he developed Kobe's godlike footwork he'd be too short to pull a lot of it off without his hops. Wade will be nowhere Kobe good, it would be unfair to say at 33 yrs old or in his 16th season, but between 33-35 he'll be amazed at how Kobe kept up.
Bosh/Wade for Deron/Humphries/Morrow, Proky would think about it.
MorisUkunRasik
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Wade/Anthony to Nuggets for Afflalo/Mozgoff/Dre.
i have no idea if this works.
Salary wise it looks like it would but if I were nuggets I wouldn't do that deal.
ThisWreckage
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Miami's role players are so fucking shitty. Lebron will find them for a wide open three and it's brick after brick. They have zero bench scoring.
Liquidsnake
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I could see Mark Cuban going for Wade. Trying to pull a rabbit out of his butt.
When Miami loses this round, they will not break up the team though. And it makes me smile.
Another failed year for Lebron warms my heart.
Not 5
Not 6
Not 7
LOL.
When Miami loses this round, they will not break up the team though. And it makes me smile.
Another failed year for Lebron warms my heart.
Not 5
Not 6
Not 7
LOL.
To who, for what? He makes no sense for pretty much every team.
The Wizard will take him!
No, not the one in DC, I mean the one in Houston.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Salary wise it looks like it would but if I were nuggets I wouldn't do that deal.
Andre Miller is leaving in free agency and Afflalo has one of the worst contracts in the NBA.
teruterubozu
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There's no way they are going to blow up the Heat. They will fire Spo and shuffle a few more bodies around the Big 3 and blame their loss on Bosh's injury.
Yeah, SpLOLstra is totally gone before Wade if they blow it up.
captmcblack
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Wade will never, ever be traded.
That's not even realistic...it's DWYANE WADE, the most important player in the history of the franchise, the only player of relevance for that franchise aside from Alonzo Mourning. Even if they lose, it's not going to come to that.
Bosh would be moved first. Shit, even LBJ would go first. But you can't trade Wade; the fanbase would never forgive them for it.
That's not even realistic...it's DWYANE WADE, the most important player in the history of the franchise, the only player of relevance for that franchise aside from Alonzo Mourning. Even if they lose, it's not going to come to that.
Bosh would be moved first. Shit, even LBJ would go first. But you can't trade Wade; the fanbase would never forgive them for it.
Wade is obviously better than Kobe. I know it's hard to think past 24 hours ago though.And at age 30 Dwade is worse than Kobe at 33. So yea.
Wade will never, ever be traded.
That's not even realistic...it's DWYANE WADE, the most important player in the history of the franchise, the only player of relevance for that franchise aside from Alonzo Mourning. Even if they lose, it's not going to come to that.
Bosh would be moved first. Shit, even LBJ would go first. But you can't trade Wade; the fanbase would never forgive them for it.
Sup Peyton
Wade is obviously better than Kobe. I know it's hard to think past 24 hours ago though.
What? Dwayne Wade has never and never will be better than Kobe. Please.
Pacers winning this series would just be absolutely amazing. Please keep it up, fellas.
ClovingWestbrook
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Wade is obviously better than Kobe. I know it's hard to think past 24 hours ago though.
lol snicker. You so cray cray kaddie.
What? Dwayne Wade has never and never will be better than Kobe. Please.
Pacers winning this series would just be absolutely amazing. Please keep it up, fellas.
Ignore Kad. He's the LeBron of NBA Age. Always trying to be a true great troller like DY, Kado, Moris, and reilo, but failing.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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What? Dwayne Wade has never and never will be better than Kobe. Please.
What
Red Blaster
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Wade's been better than Kobe for at least two years now.
Grover Cleveland
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Sup Peyton
Pretty much.
The day Jim Irsay cut Peyton Manning is the day that franchise loyalty in sports officially died.
If Pat Riley is willing to do what it takes to win (which, based off of the fact that he put all of his eggs in this Big 3 basket in the first place, he is), he'll be shopping Wade the second this season ends.
So hey guys, who should start at 2 in the Olympics, Mamba or Wade?
Your personal vendetta against Gaby and the rest of pacers-age has poisoned your mind.
People have forgotten how terrible the Pacers are.
Your personal vendetta against Gaby and the rest of pacers-age has poisoned your mind.
ClovingWestbrook
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Wade's been better than Kobe for at least two years now.
smh. smfh.
MorisUkunRasik
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Andre Miller is leaving in free agency and Afflalo has one of the worst contracts in the NBA.
Word is Andre wants to stick around, but looking at the roster I was wrong, adding Wade for Moz, Andre and Afflalo would be pretty good.
But then why would MIA ditch Wade for Andre Moz and Afflalo lol.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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smh. smfh.
What did Kobe do better than Wade last year?
ClovingWestbrook
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What did Kobe do better than Wade last year?
What about this year? What did Wade do better than Kobe this year?
captmcblack
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Sup Peyton
Different situation.
And if you thought it to be a better idea to pay 20 million (or whatever it was that Peyton would've been owed if he was brought back) to a guy who came back from what could plausibly have been a career-threatening/ending injury at the age of 36, versus using a guaranteed top draft pick to select the best QB prospect since that guy, I think you're crazy too.
yea ok.
He's not wrong. Lebron James ball has never been that pretty.
He's not wrong. Lebron James ball has never been that pretty.
but the highlights!
ItWasMeantToBe19
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What about this year? What did Wade do better than Kobe this year?
Wade didn't have a better year than Kobe this year because he missed a ton of games, but I would say he's better at scoring which is sort of important since that's most of what both guys are about.
I read the post, saw the avatar and assumed it was SUPREME.
reilo is this what acceptance looks like?
I told Supreme to change his already.
ClovingWestbrook
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Wade didn't have a better year than Kobe this year because he missed a ton of games, but I would say he's better at scoring which is sort of important since that's most of what both guys are about.
And Kobe didn't have a better year than Wade last year because he was injured. Your point?
People have a lot more faith in the Pacers winning the series than I do. One predction: No matter who advances, at least one player from the losing team will be tossed in the deciding game. The games are going to get a lot more physical from here on out.
Well, we know Wade is gonna try to hurt somebody. He did it before, and it'd be great irony if that open court tackle was what got him "hurt." Hurt in quotes because this dude sells injuries like shares on Wallstreet, but he didn't have so much as a slight limp, yet when he chokes and then gets completely shut down in consecutive games (with a couple obnoxious meltdowns thrown in), he must be hurting in his leg, lol. He's hurting alright, but it ain't physical, yet.
...the best part of the Lance Stephenson choke sign scene (at Lebron)was Darren Collison buckled over from laughter. I almost feel bad for Lebron, because he just can't handle those situations.
MorisUkunRasik
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Wade at this point is arguablly better than current Kobe. But in his 9th year Kobe dropped 81.
Point being, Wade is currently better than almost 50 year old MJ. He was never/ will never be as great as either.
The fact that a 16 year vet is being compared to a 9 year guy in his prime speaks volumes of both Wade and Kobe.
Point being, Wade is currently better than almost 50 year old MJ. He was never/ will never be as great as either.
The fact that a 16 year vet is being compared to a 9 year guy in his prime speaks volumes of both Wade and Kobe.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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And Kobe didn't have a better year than Wade last year because he was injured. Your point?
Both guys are always injured, Wade played more minutes in 2011, Kobe played way more minutes in 2012, I think that matters.
ClovingWestbrook
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Wade at this point is arguablly better than current Kobe. But in his 9th year Kobe dropped 81.
Point being, Wade is currently better than almost 50 year old MJ. He was never/ will never be as great as either.
The fact that a 16 year vet is being compared to a 9 year guy in his prime speaks volumes of both Wade and Kobe.
Good point.
Not only that, but their half court offense is terrible.Miami's role players are so fucking shitty. Lebron will find them for a wide open three and it's brick after brick. They have zero bench scoring.
I really don't see how they can win another game if the Pacers decide to hit the boards like they did every night.
Wade didn't have a better year than Kobe this year because he missed a ton of games, but I would say he's better at scoring which is sort of important since that's most of what both guys are about.
What? See, had you said defense you would've had something there. He's better at scoring? That's just ridiculous.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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What? See, had you said defense you would've had something there. He's better at scoring? That's just ridiculous.
Wade makes shots more often than Kobe does, that is important.
Deadly Joker
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Also us Pacers fans, who slogged through the Jim O'Brien/Mike Dunleavy/Troy Murphy era, anything would look better compared to that steaming pile of shit.
Amen, brother.
Those were some shitty years.
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