Gucci Messiah
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Cavs are finally back in action tonight against Washington, I wonder if Dion will play tonight...
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2013-14 NBA Oct-Nov Season |OT| They can't hide the championship banners Forever
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So my question was, do you think the nba would let lin into the all star game over westbrook/harden? They obviously have a behind the scenes say?
Future PhaZe
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I wonder if Kevin Love can compete for an MVP this year
dude got my jaw drop
dude got my jaw drop
ratcliffja
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Why not? He's had a pretty good season and is really big with the Asian and Christian markets.
CreepingFear
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Melo for Deng. It's not like the Knicks could get any worse, right?
With this trade, Houston would get rid of the Asik problem and have Boozer with his friend Dwight.
With this trade, Houston would get rid of the Asik problem and have Boozer with his friend Dwight.
I don't know how you can use the word obviously unless you believe in conspiracy theories, in which case the Lakers and Celtics would obviously have the #1 and #2 picks respectively. So you should fast forward to the next season already.
ratcliffja
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That's maybe the worst trade I've ever seen. Congratulations.Melo for Deng. It's not like the Knicks could get any worse, right?
With this trade, Houston would get rid of the Asik problem and have Boozer with his friend Dwight.
Gucci Messiah
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Melo for Deng. It's not like the Knicks could get any worse, right?
With this trade, Houston would get rid of the Asik problem and have Boozer with his friend Dwight.
Chicago wouldn't take on that much salary
And lol @ Parsons being moved.
CreepingFear
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I had to use Parsons for salary purposes. The main thing would be getting Asik and Melo and getting rid of Deng and Boozer.
Gucci Messiah
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The main thing is that this is a horrible trade that would never happen
CreepingFear
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It's not any worse than the shit Bill Simmons throws around.
Gucci Messiah
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The difference is that he gets paid to be an idiot. You're just going to get mocked without compensation.
Nobody wins that trade, it's pretty horrible for everyone involved. I commend your effort though, no hard feelings.
CreepingFear
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I'll defend it. The Knicks get someone who actually plays defense and is a good team ate. The Rockets get rid of a whining Asik and have a lineup of Dwight, Hardon, Boozer. That's 60 wins in the West. The Bulls get a 2nd go to guy scorer after Rose and get a backup for Noah or starter when Noah gets hurt as he always does.
Gucci Messiah
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Who shoulders the scoring load for the Knicks without Carmelo? Are they going to rely on a core of Bargs, J.R. Smith, and Deng to keep them in games every night? Teague is dead weight, they don't need another mediocre PG on the roster.
Houston is not giving up Chandler Parsons for Carlos Boozer. Yeah Boozer is playing out of his mind right now but how is he going to fit in with Lin, Harden, and Howard? There's not enough touches to go around in that situation and he's going to regress sooner than later. Nobody wants to take on his stupid contract this year, maybe in 2014-2014 when it's an expiring deal. Parsons plays lights out for the amount of money Houston is paying him, he's one of the best values in the league. Giving up young talent for Carlos freaking Boozer is beyond dumb.
I don't have to point out why Chicago wouldn't take on 32M in salary with the current ownership in place.
Squall ASF
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I was at a concert last night and missed the game, we lost to the Kings? really? Tank engine restarted! Wonder how that happened, I'll have to read up on it. If we lose to them again tonight we'll have doubled their wins for the season haha I have a feeling we'll bounce back hard after the disappointment though.
The term obviously was used to show they have a say in who should start. Just like new Orleans getting the one pick and Kobe being drafted at 13
And if Lakers and celts are both in the lottery you can bet your bum that's how it'll be. I can see it now: "are Parker and Wiggins the next magic and bird rivalry?"
Melo for Deng. It's not like the Knicks could get any worse, right?
With this trade, Houston would get rid of the Asik problem and have Boozer with his friend Dwight.
Starters are determined by fan voting, period.
Kobe being drafted at 13 has nothing to do with the league. It's about Kobe not working out for teams, agents pushing and teams not wanting to take a risk. If you think it's the league then you do indeed believe in conspiracy theories.
Gully State
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Melo for Deng. It's not like the Knicks could get any worse, right?
With this trade, Houston would get rid of the Asik problem and have Boozer with his friend Dwight.
Since we're posting terrible trades
Knicks fans.. deep down I know you want Lin back..
If that happens I will write to the commissioner and ask him to just contract the knciks
LegendofJoe
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I've been thinking about the evolution of the game,more specifically how it's becoming more and more position less. It's basically guard, forward, center with a lot of the forwards straying over to center.
That said it seems to me that Western conference teams are way ahead of the Eastern conference when it comes to building their roster around the changing game. Guys like Durant, Davis, Duncan, Curry, etc. that have the skills to mesh with players of multiple playing styles are the exact sorts of guys you should be building teams around. The only guy in the east who comes to mind that fits this description is the reigning MVP. Am I forgetting someone here?
Edit: This reasoning is why I think Jabari Parker is clearly the best prospect in this draft. He has the skills and size to play both forward positions with all the intangibles you could ask for as well. And you can tell by looking at him that he hasn't been around professional trainers that much, once he puts the time in no one will question his athleticism anymore.
That said it seems to me that Western conference teams are way ahead of the Eastern conference when it comes to building their roster around the changing game. Guys like Durant, Davis, Duncan, Curry, etc. that have the skills to mesh with players of multiple playing styles are the exact sorts of guys you should be building teams around. The only guy in the east who comes to mind that fits this description is the reigning MVP. Am I forgetting someone here?
Edit: This reasoning is why I think Jabari Parker is clearly the best prospect in this draft. He has the skills and size to play both forward positions with all the intangibles you could ask for as well. And you can tell by looking at him that he hasn't been around professional trainers that much, once he puts the time in no one will question his athleticism anymore.
Boozer's the Bulls best offensive player this season. And he hasn't missed extended time on the Bulls. And he doesn't have a Max contract. He's not a complete waste.
LegendofJoe
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The changes in rule set to emphasize speed over physicality have a lot to do with that I think. That said Jahil Okafor is a renaissance throwback player when it comes to the post. And you guys should be in good position to land him next season.
reggieandTFE
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Boozer innovations
reggieandTFE
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Well, he missed a quarter of his first season here. And he was terrible in the playoffs for us until last year, but he's definitely not a complete waste.
He is what he is. We're over-paying for 16 pts, 9 rebounds and shit defense, but big-bodied double-double guys get paid in this league.
I would probably kill myself if that trade occurred. I know it was just you messing around with the machine though.
Wonder who'll take Asik, and what we want for him.
Tallshortman
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Melo for Deng. It's not like the Knicks could get any worse, right?
With this trade, Houston would get rid of the Asik problem and have Boozer with his friend Dwight.
haha hell no, parsons with his ridiculously good contract, asik, and jones for fucking boozer? I hope this was a joke.
Dmncnby2k9
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Trey Burke will be available for todays game. Will play limited minutes. Cant wait to see him out there.
Offensively sure, I don't know if he can effectively guard either position though.
I agree that you generally want your best player and MVP to be a versatile player that can work with whatever types of players you bring in though. Doesn't help to have a superstar talent that is only good in certain lineups because it constrains the kind of moves you can make on the roster, the kind of system and plays you can run and means you'll probably have to overpay complementary pieces because you need them to make the team work.
LegendofJoe
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Parker has really good awareness when it comes to spacing and he's able to anticipate ball fakes and counter moves pretty effectively as well. He had 4 blocks, most of them in the post, last night. On one of them he stuffed the guy at the rim, came down with the ball, and went coast to coast splitting a trap at half court to dunk it at the other end. It was an amazing play and it sold me on his potential to play solid post defense. The fact that his body isn't developed yet is just icing on the cake. I'm going to be mad jealous of whatever team drafts him.
Gucci Messiah
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Great, might pick him up on the waiver wire in one of my leagues if he looks good.
The Frankman
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CreepingFear
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Fuck, Jimmy Butler is out for 3 weeks with turf toe.
Ninja Scooter
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Melo for Deng. It's not like the Knicks could get any worse, right?
With this trade, Houston would get rid of the Asik problem and have Boozer with his friend Dwight.
That's worse than knick fans thinking they can get Rondo for Amare and Shumpert.
Steve Kerr says that the only way for big men to learn a post game these days is to stay in college. He referenced that dude from Kansas and says that if he comes out after a year he'll be eaten up and never learn shit. I don't watch enough college ball but would you guys agree?
Gucci Messiah
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Are these poorly worded web comics supposed to be funny?
CreepingFear
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I guess the only thing positive about Butler being out, is hopefully Tony Snell gets some playing time. I wonder if Hinrich starts at SG or Dunleavy.
Dominican Power
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Frankman thinks so.
Lmao please step away from the trade machineMelo for Deng. It's not like the Knicks could get any worse, right?
With this trade, Houston would get rid of the Asik problem and have Boozer with his friend Dwight.
victreeb3l
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I sure do. Hell of an upgrade over Felton and Udrih at the moment.
Linsanity 2: Linsane is just what we need right now.
The Frankman
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Only if you've watched the Clippers for the last year.
captmcblack
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As soon as we trade Shumpert for Kris Humphries or something, I think I'm just going to be a basketball free agent for the year while my heart heals. 
I think you're seeing it with cousins this year. He obviously has the skills, body, frame, and athleticism to be really good in the post. And he has post moves. They're just unpolished and untested. You're seeing him in his 3rd year, finally being put in the post regularly in game situations. When it's 1v1 coverage, DMC scores every time. When he gets doubled is when he struggles to know what to do (and so do the rest of the kings).
I mean, Z-bo took a long time to become REALLY good in the post.
You look at a lot of the guys with good post games, M.Gasol, Pek, Kanter and they're euro's who did play in europe for a while and learn this stuff. (Though i think marc spent a lot of time in the USA, he did spend a lot of time around the national team and all his years before college too).
Then you look at the guys who have basic / developing post games and they're guys that came straight into the NBA, blake, love, dwight.
So yeah, i think he's right to an extent. Either he has to learn in college or it takes them a long time in the NBA. And your team has to be committed to the idea of you learning.
Like most things, some are funny, some aren't.