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[Vire]

refs penalizing a player for delay of game, is a longer delay than refs just letting that delay of game go. They just need to stop that shit.

That's not the point of it, it's not to speed up the game

It's so that the team who scores doesn't gain an advantage by holding onto the ball before giving it to the other team (preventing potential fast breaks, or catching the other team off guard).

It allows the scoring team to get back on defense before the team with possession can move the ball up the court.

 

[Psychological Intellect]

holy fuck at griffin's hops

and lol teletovic

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Real talk though, Lebron is right about Pierce and KG being hypocrites.

Glad to see Kidd got his jersey retired.

Spoiler

Will James Jones ever play 30 min in a regular season game? Please let it be so.

 

[Forever]

They're playing leapfrog out there.

 

[Forever]

Noooo here come the camp invitees.

 

[UnObtainium17]

That's not the point of it, it's not to speed up the game

It's so that the team who scores doesn't gain an advantage by holding onto the ball before giving it to the other team (preventing potential fast breaks, or catching the other team off guard).

It allows the scoring team to get back on defense before the team with possession can move the ball up the court.

Whst you said is the main part of it. But if the refs gonna call it everytime, its gonna get annoying especially if the player barely held the ball for a few secs and penalizing a player for it takes longer time than just grabbing the ball from the player and getting the next posession set up.

 

[Vire]

Whst you said is the main part of it. But if the refs gonna call it everytime, its gonna get annoying especially if the player barely held the ball for a few secs and penalizing a player for it takes longer time than just grabbing the ball from the player and getting the next posession set up.

I agree, if they just merely tap the ball, that's kinda silly to call it. But if they are clearly holding on, then I don't have as much of a problem with it.

 

[ph33nix]

Noooo here come the camp invitees.

How excited were you when Plumlee schooled a pair of D-Leaguers

 

[KingGondo]

Adams with 10 points and 15 rebounds.

Plan the parade!

 

[Forever]

How excited were you when Plumlee schooled a pair of D-Leaguers

He dunked on Bosh, let's not pretend that all his minutes were against garbage. And I'm more excited because he's never played with this much confidence before, I've been watching him since summer league.

Finally Teletovic does something.

 

[UnObtainium17]

lol at the grantland nba preview. This is the best thing grantland has done. Lakers ranked too low imo.

Spoiler

they will make the playoffs, no wiggins for all yall lakers gaf.

 

[Pimpwerx]

So this is the point in the preseason where I stop giving a shit and start looking forward to the regular season. I've missed the last two games due to work, and I don't feel like I missed anything. The only things I wanted to see was Justin Hamilton playing and Griffin leapfrogging someone tonight. Any gifs/vids of that yet? PEACE.

 

[giri]

lol suns.

Gonna be a long ass season.

 

[Pkaz01]

lol suns.

Gonna be a long ass season.

cousins is shitting on them right now

editt - and dragic is down shit

 

[white dynamite]

Dragic looks like he's modeling himself after Nash again by becoming nothing more than a spot up shooter.

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

ESPN Poll of current NBA players:

“That’s like ranking the shortest giant. I’d want the ball in LeBron’s hands at the end of the game, but I’d want him to pass to Kobe or Jordan for the last shot. And don’t forget, LeBron is not a great free throw shooter either.”​

Sounds about right.

Spoiler

probably discussed, but I haven't been around here in a while. 2K14 on PS4 reignited my passion. God damn that looks good!

Love this part, hahaha

 

[ph33nix]

Hey guess what

That would be funny three years ago

 

[Blackace]

ESPN Poll of current NBA players:

“That’s like ranking the shortest giant. I’d want the ball in LeBron’s hands at the end of the game, but I’d want him to pass to Kobe or Jordan for the last shot. And don’t forget, LeBron is not a great free throw shooter either.”​

Sounds about right.

Spoiler

probably discussed, but I haven't been around here in a while. 2K14 on PS4 reignited my passion. God damn that looks good!

Love this part, hahaha

All those NBA players are nostalgic! Sports medicine something something something s

 

[Blackace]

Hey guess what

That would be funny three years ago

He still flopping and bricking game winners

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

Hey guess what

That would be funny three years ago

What? This was a poll published today, with current opinions from current players. Why are you so butthurt?

 

[ph33nix]

What? This was a poll published today, with current opinions from current players. Why are you so butthurt?

I'm not butt hurt at all; in fact I think I'm a little amused because I've just realized that the only time you post in here, it's Kobe related. I think somebody has overtaken Vag!

He still flopping and bricking game winners

Bricking is better than this

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

I'm not butt hurt at all; in fact I think I'm a little amused because I've just realized that the only time you post in here, it's Kobe related. I think somebody has overtaken Vag!

I'm a fan of Kobe Bryant, yes I can admit that.

But this...

Hey guess what

That would be funny three years ago

Is DEFINITELY butthurt, champ.

_____________

Anyway, I can't wait to pick up 2k14. Are most here jumping on the PS4 wagon?

 

[ph33nix]

Anyway, I can't wait to pick up 2k14. Are most here jumping on the PS4 wagon?

I will show you precisely what butthurt is on PS4

 

[Vire]

He still flopping and bricking game winners

It'd be funnier if you didn't forget this just happened in Game 7 a few months ago. It's amazing how ESPN just loves to revive the Lebron hate machine at will.

If Lebron misses, the Heat are up only 1 basket with 28 seconds left in a Game 7 of the NBA Finals.

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

I will show you precisely what butthurt is on PS4

...

I don't even know how to respond to that?

If you're gay, that's completely fine, dude, but that's between you and whoever else's dick it is. Leave me out of that.

 

[diehard]

why the hell didn't Sac trade us Jimmer in the offseason?

those fuckers.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I will show you precisely what butthurt is on PS4

 

[MVP]

Sounds about right.

Does it?

Kobe is hot garbage in the clutch, and THAT is a fact. The reason people remember him as clutch is because he's a ballhog and always wants the ball down the stretch even though he shoots like he has two left arms under pressure and whether it costs his team the win or not, three other wide open players be damned. With enough shots, he's bound to make some.

 

[Blackace]

It'd be funnier if you didn't forget this just happened in Game 7 a few months ago. It's amazing how ESPN just loves to revive the Lebron hate machine at will.

If Lebron misses, the Heat are up only 1 basket with 28 seconds left in a Game 7 of the NBA Finals.

still up by 2 regardless of making the bucket.. changes the game but make or die.

And it was a great shot.. Not a LBJ hater I just think a few players before him were better

 

[MVP]

still up by 2 regardless of making the bucket.. changes the game but make or die.

And it was a great shot.. Not a LBJ hater I just think a few players before him were better

On game-tying or go-ahead field goals in the final 24 seconds of the fourth quarter or overtime of playoff games, LeBron is shooting 42.1 percent (7-of-17) while Kobe checks in at 25 (7-of-28). Jordan topples all with a 50 percent clip (9-of-18).

Just shows 12% of NBA players polled are morons, and some people just hate acknowledging greatness when stats show Lebron is clutch as fuck, end of story.

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

Does it?

Kobe is hot garbage in the clutch, and THAT is a fact. The reason people remember him as clutch is because he's a ballhog and always wants the ball down the stretch even though he shoots like he has two left arms under pressure and whether it costs his team the win or not, three other wide open players be damned. With enough shots, he's bound to make some.

Listen here, sport. Have you ever heard the term, "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics?"If not, well I've just done you favor number one. I know Kobe has a low field goal percentage in the clutch. We all know it. Very low, in fact, when compared to contemporaries like LeBron, Melo, etc.

But when you consider the fact that the very same people who have played with and against them both (Kobe / 'Bron) pick MJ and Kobe over LeBron, it's telling. Not only that, but 0% of players picked LeBron. Meaning none. Not even one.

Go watch Kobe drilling 3's against Portland to end the season real quick. Go watch Kobe take over against Indiana in OT. Go watch Kobe double clutch over Kidd. Sink the Three over Hamilton. Lead USA over Spain by being involved in nearly every play down the stretch. Hit the sideways running three off the glass over D-Wade for the win.

... I could go on. The man has pulled off so many improbable shots, acrobatic finishes, and dramatic displays of sheer will, that it's impossible to deny his greatness.

That is why players (PLAYERS, not fans, not aficionados, not the general populace) pick Kobe over LeBron. He is fearless.

 

[Blackace]

Just shows 12% of NBA players polled are morons, and some people just hate acknowledging greatness when stats show Lebron is clutch as fuck, end of story.

just calm down MVP.. really..

 

[Blackace]

Listen here, sport. Have you ever heard the term, "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics?"If not, well I've just done you favor number one. I know Kobe has a low field goal percentage in the clutch. We all know it. Very low, in fact, when compared to contemporaries like LeBron, Melo, etc.

But when you consider the fact that the very same people who have played with and against them both (Kobe / 'Bron) pick MJ and Kobe over LeBron, it's telling. Not only that, but 0% of players picked LeBron. Meaning none. Not even one.

Go watch Kobe drilling 3's against Portland to end the season real quick. Go watch Kobe take over against Indiana in OT. Go watch Kobe double clutch over Kidd. Sink the Three over Hamilton. Lead USA over Spain by being involved in nearly every play down the stretch. Hit the sideways running three off the glass over D-Wade for the win.

... I could go on. The man has pulled off so many improbable shots, acrobatic finishes, and dramatic displays of sheer will, that it's impossible to deny his greatness.

That is why players (PLAYERS, not fans, not aficionados, not the general populace) pick Kobe over LeBron. He is fearless.

you too..

 

[MVP]

Listen here, kiddo. Have you ever heard the term, "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics?"If not, well I've just done you favor number one. I know Kobe has a low field goal percentage in the clutch. We all know it. Very low, in fact, when compared to contemporaries like LeBron, Melo, etc.

But when you consider the fact that the very same people who have played with and against them both (Kobe / 'Bron) pick MJ and Kobe over LeBron, it's telling. Not only that, but 0% of players picked LeBron. Meaning none. Not even one.

Go watch Kobe drilling 3's against Portland to end the season real quick. Go watch Kobe take over against Indiana in OT. Go watch Kobe double clutch over Kidd. Sink the Three over Hamilton. Lead USA over Spain by being involved in nearly every play down the stretch. Hit the sideways running three off the glass over D-Wade for the win.

... I could go on. The man has pulled off so many improbable shots, acrobatic finishes, and dramatic displays of sheer will, that it's impossible to deny his greatness.

That is why players (PLAYERS, not fans, not aficionados, not the general populace) pick Kobe over LeBron. He is fearless.

You could've saved yourself a whole bunch of time and just typed "Listen here, kiddo. Reality doesn't matter, some random players picked him and I like some of his highlights, that's enough for me to decide."

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

You could've saved yourself a whole bunch of time and just typed "Listen here, kiddo. Reality doesn't matter, some random players picked him and I like some of his highlights, that's enough for me to decide."

You seem to think that statistics tell the whole story, and that's peculiar. Reality? The reality is that Kobe has made more clutch shots than anyone else who has ever stepped on an NBA court. There's a statistic for you.

But I digress... let's all enjoy the sport, eh? New season is almost here. We'll save the shit talking for then.

 

[diehard]

dude screw you for actually making me agree with MVP

 

[Blackace]

You seem to think that statistics tell the whole story, and that's peculiar. Reality? The reality is that Kobe has made more clutch shots than anyone else who has ever stepped on an NBA court. There's a statistic for you.

But I digress... let's all enjoy the sport, eh? New season is almost here. We'll save the shit talking for then.

What does he have 35? 36? on like 115 attempts.. dude is fearless I give him that

 

[Blackace]

dude screw you for actually making me agree with MVP

lol

 

[MVP]

You seem to think that statistics tell the whole story, and that's peculiar. Reality? The reality is that Kobe has made more clutch shots than anyone else who has ever stepped on an NBA court. There's a statistic for you.

Statistics in this case do tell the story, it isn't some obscure statistic we're debating here, it's make percentage. Who would you rather depend on to make clutch free throws at the end of the game, Ray Allen or Dwight Howard because you like some of his free throw highlights?

I don't want to bother verifying your Kobe stat because it's believable, but him having made more shots is irrelevant. How many more shots did he take? At what percentage did he make them? Thanks for proving my point.

Kobe makes clutch shots at about a league average percentage. That means you can give pretty much anyone else the ball in the clutch and they'd do about as good as Kobe.

 

[Blackace]

Statistics in this case do tell the story, it isn't some obscure statistic we're debating here, it's make percentage. Who would you rather depend on to make clutch free throws at the end of the game, Ray Allen or Dwight Howard because you like some of his free throw highlights?

I don't want to bother verifying your Kobe stat because it's believable, but him having made more shots is irrelevant. How many more shots did he take? At what percentage did he make them? Thanks for proving my point.

Kobe makes clutch shots at about a league average percentage. That means you can give pretty much anyone else the ball in the clutch and they'd do about as good as Kobe.

But Vince Carter.. sometimes stats do lie..

 

[MVP]

But Vince Carter.. sometimes stats do lie..

But they aren't lying, Vince Carter is more clutch than Kobe, doesn't mean he's better. He's probably just better at setting up a clearer shot and isn't constantly thinking "what would MJ do here" while he's dribbling and eventually deciding on some Sportcenter highlight fadeaway when the layup was wide open.

 

[J. Bravo]

dat andre miller face LOL
http://youtu.be/iEd8fCgwMJU?t=1m14s

 

[benjipwns]

That means you can give pretty much anyone else the ball in the clutch and they'd do about as good as Kobe.

Of course getting the shot off is almost as important as making it in a last second situation. (Perhaps more so considering all the variables.) This is why a Melo or Iverson becomes much more valuable in that situation.

 

[linsivvi]

Kobe stan vs LeBron stan.

Is this how Pop GAF is like every day?

 

[ThisWreckage]

Lebron is right about the Ray Allen situation. KG and Pierce were pissed that Allen left because he was smart enough to realize that Boston was a sinking ship. So he leaves, adds to his legacy even more, and he still has a better title shot to win yet another title than either KG or Pierce have.

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

How about them Kings. Cousins, Vasquez, and Mclemore should be fun to watch. Oh, and I hope they get rid of Salmons.

Suns shot at a high rate for most of the game though so that must have pissed off Mike Malone.

 

[benjipwns]

How about them Kings. Cousins, Vasquez, and Mclemore should be fun to watch. Oh, and I hope they get rid of Salmons.

I've been using them in a short association in 2K14. I love it, it's like an entire team of unpredictable tweeners.

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

I've been using them in a short association in 2K14. I love it, it's like an entire team of unpredictable tweeners.

That's the team identity.

 

[Dominican Power]

How about them Kings. Cousins, Vasquez, and Mclemore should be fun to watch. Oh, and I hope they get rid of Salmons.

Suns shot at a high rate for most of the game though so that must have pissed off Mike Malone.

Cousins the preseason beast.

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

Ha, Cousins has been killing scrubs all preseason.