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2013 Feb NBA Season lOT| Controlling it like a man, bruh
- Thread starter reilo
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True, but he loses control all the time and his TOs show that.
LegendofJoe
Member
Hey! Andrew Bynum is a great bowler.
Actually laughed out loud to this. Awesome. I agree.
I picture the video of that guy driving his Bugatti into the lake.
It's an excellent comparison actually. Westbrook spends a lot of time looking like he is surprised by his athletic ability. Or he doesn't understand his own limits yet. Hard to explain.
I'm trying to compare it to a young PG that starts having success with going for layups and then dropping off the pass. Sometimes that player starts to just jump when they are planning to pass. Assuming they will figure things out once they are up there.
Future PhaZe
Member
Not really. Look at the Clips--that's an undersized backcourt that's effective, and Mclemore is more of a pure 2 than Billups.
Agreed on Oladipo. Not a big fan of Smart at all personally. Shabazz is a good settle pick, but you don't take him with a top selection.
Cats are definitely taking McLemore with a top 3 pick. Might reach on Nerlens.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Dribbling and ball control are basketball specific. Usain Bolt would have tons of TOs too trying to dribble a ball and run full speed, doesn't make him any less of a world class athlete.
YN couldn't hit a wide reciver running full clip 40 yards down a football field either, but he's still an amazing athlete. His athletecism is the very thing that makes him a good basketball player.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Not a bad list.
Black Mamba
Member
I forgot about Brand. So you lose 3 of your too 6, replace then with nothing, then complain about falling back 10 games.
Maybe their effort has waned because the writing is on the wall. The team has probably overachieved if anything. It's a bad team without Bynum. There's little talent.
Sorry but the effort excuse is bullshit.
PS: I've been saying for a long time that Palmer is the worst nba writer ever.
theignoramus
Member
really hope Johnny Wall develops into a great player, cause athletically hes only a tiny notch below Rose and Chuckbrook.
friskykillface
Banned
Sheed :'(
Future PhaZe
Member
He's faster than both but his handles aren't as tight so it appears less so in the half court.
I don't know about him. After the first week his play has really fallen off. I'm pretty concerned about his development.
It's actually not at all. And if you think there's no point to having one of the greatest shooters in the history of the game on the floor to shoot, and open up driving lanes for Kobe, and stop Dwight from being double teamed...well you're crazy.
This isn't to say Steve Nash is most effective as a catch and shoot scorer, but neither is Kobe. So if you have two ball dominant guards who share duties, they're going to have plays where the other player is in the corner or on the wing basically waiting for a catch and shoot opportunity. Wade and Lebron do this as well from time to time.
You acting like Kobe playing the same way he's always played, the way that's gotten him 5 championships and 7 finals appearances is evidence of his "low bball iq" is just crazy.
Also, And here's the last thing, I doubt you actually watch many Laker games. While Nash obviously won't have the ball in his hands as much as he used to in Phx, I've never seen Kobe trust another guard to run the offense the way Kobe trusts Nash.
Adam Blade
WWKC
So Legend and DY, what's the verdict on Biyomgno thus far?
Will he ever become a competent starter?
Will he ever become a competent starter?
Kobe can't will his stacked team over .500. There's a huge gulf between KD and Kobe.
I agree. Unfortunately his ego is bigger.
LOL. Get out of here. Nothing kobe could do would overcome the idiocy of d'antoni. It's no coincidence his coming here coincided with us making lots of firsts in losing records.
Kobe's "stacked" team isn't actually very stacked. They've had to play Darius Morris, Chris Duhon, Devin Ebanks, and Robert Sacre significant minutes throughout the season - 4 guys that wouldn't be good enough to play on the Thunder.
Only super trolls like yourself think the gulf between KD and Kobe is huge.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Who would you rather have, present KoMe or Larden?
Black Mamba
Member
Not Eric Gordon.
How about Mcchale for d'antoni? And to answer your question....kobe.
Red Blaster
Member
The Thunder play a useless blob in Kendrick Perkins huge minutes
face it Vag, Kobe aint shit compared to Durant
face it Vag, Kobe aint shit compared to Durant
The Warriors have started Harrison Barnes and Festus Ezeli all season and are six games up on the Lakers.
Adam Blade
WWKC
I don't know anything about this Gordon of whom you speak.
Harden has better stats and a better record with a weaker supporting cast. He's also 11 years younger and isn't hated by everyone on his team.
I'll take the Beard.
Knux-Future
Banned
Maybe you are too used to just winning based off of talent but the lack of effort plays a pretty huge role in our record.
No shit we suck...but lets be honest we have "sucked" talent wise since we traded Iverson. We lost to the second worst team in the league last night. Orlando has a bunch of random young plays who barely know what the fuck they are doing and we made them look like gods last night.
Dudes put no effort in. No one gives a shit and it looks like they have given up. We aren't the Bobcats. The thing is that the Bobcats play really hard even though they suck. We suck AND don't give a shit.
Bad combo.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
2013 Mar NBA Season lOTl Knux Atop Everyone's Bracket For March Sadness
Black Mamba
Member
Every team has games with poor effort and bad losses. Maybe they are quitting now. But they suck due to talent. They gave up a lot of talent and got little to nothing to show for it. Doug even mentioned this.
theignoramus
Member
Ive seen enough to know what comes when the Lakers give up a massive scoring run (often), the ball dont go to Nash, it goes to Kobe in the post, while the other four guys stand and watch, theres no offball movement.
I mean, I know he scores efficiently from that area, but LA has guys (like Dwight) that try harder on D when they feel involved in the offense.
They're more athletic than almost anyone. Kendrick Perkins being a blob isn't a net negative against anyone except the Heat.
The Thunder win because of their athleticism, chemistry, and defense. 3 Things the Lakers don't have much of.
Durant is a bit better than Kobe this year, but that's about it.
As for your "top 15 in the game" comment because of his lack of defense. Were you saying the same about Nash when he was winning MVP? Or Magic his whole career?
Straight Trolling.
LA does great more often than not when Kobe's in the post what are you talking about? The team gives up huge scoring runs when they get turnovers either from Dwight being stripped, or perimeter players like Nash and Kobe making a mistake which is more or less a result of lack of chemistry.
As for Dwight trying harder on D. I feel no sympathy for that nonsense. The greatest Defensive Players in history played great defense and rebounded whether or not they got shots. If Rodman or Pippen, or Dikembo, or Mourning whined and moaned and played with less effort on defense because of how many shots they got they'd be crucified. Yet Dwight gets a pass for that nonsense.
This is by far the nicest thing you've ever posted about me.
No PeonGondo, no insults to the OKC players... What's happening to you?
victreeb3l
Member
and we still havent cut him for someone useful. i get that he provides intangibles and shit so give him a job in the FO or something. woodsons loyalty to old farts has fucked us up
He got laid.
Future PhaZe
Member
Lulz, advanced stats differences are huge between Durant and Kobe. Durant being drastically better on both sides of the floor being the main sticking point.
Kobe is a bottom 5 perimeter defender 80% of the time he plays.
Kobe is a bottom 5 perimeter defender 80% of the time he plays.
He got blocks in the ASG though.
OKC leads the league in FT%. Lakers are 30th in FT%. OKC makes 3 more FT a game then LA does.
LA's point differential this season is +.9 ppg. All things being even, Dwight shoots 70% from the line, LA has 6-7 more wins this season.
Actually, we started winning when the ball started going into the post
Nash didn't hurt his team on defense as much as Kobe does. He was also a much better offensive player.
What does any of that have to do with Stephen Curry, Paul Millsap and Larry Sanders leading their teams to a better record than the Lakers with a much worse supporting cast?
Basically, Kobe can't hold KD's jockstrap. But nice try.
What does any of that have to do with Stephen Curry, Paul Millsap and Larry Sanders leading their teams to a better record than the Lakers with a much worse supporting cast?
Basically, Kobe can't hold KD's jockstrap. But nice try.
Red Blaster
Member
Kobe's DRTG is 10th on his own team
lololololololololol
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lol. after 17 seasons and we're still having this convo...moral victory man. Congrats on having an 8th seed team tho.
And yes, i'm salty.
What?!?!?!?!?
LegendofJoe
Member
i want to get on board the McLemore train, but his passiveness and poor handle will relegate him to role player status. It's better than falling flat on your face by reaching on someone that might never be consistently healthy like Noel though.
theignoramus
Member
id be pretty interested to know what LA's record is when Kobe has a ton of post ups, the games ive seen with him late in the third and fourth, posting up every trip down the floor, taking 10 dribbles, then putting up a shot, LA leaves with an L.
So just to be clear, Last year when Kobe led his team to the third best record in the West he was a better player then all those players and CP3. But this year, he's the 15th best player and Larry Sanders and Paul Millsap and Stephen Curry are better players than him?
lol
LegendofJoe
Member
If we can pair him with a stretch 4 that can score and cover his own man (i.e. not Mullens) then yea I think he can be a competent starter. His offense will never be good, so he can't be paired with another big with an average to below average offensive game.
Red Blaster
Member
Kobe didn't do any leading with his pathetic 52.7% TS last year
a guy by the name of Andrew Bynum was the reason the Lakers were 3rd in the west