Why didn't Lebron choke on the 3 he made tho?
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2013 NBA Finals |OT| The "Big 3" looks to hang another banner... against the Heat
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friskykillface
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LeBron choked the first 3 tho.
dat salt i know but Duncan grabs that rebound that wade tipped to LeBron
dat salt i know but Duncan grabs that rebound that wade tipped to LeBron
Why couldn't it just have... You know... Been a normal miss. He shoots that around 40%, he actually made the second. I see no choking.
jordan0386
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Officerrob
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Because it only hit the backboard
He missed a lot of shots badly before that 3 and then Ray bailed them out and made the Spurs choke a real thing.
Ray also made everyone forget how Parker won the game and took away his Finals MVP,
Can't wait for game 7. Hope it is close and not a Heat blowout.
But... The next one went in.
It's not so much a defense of Lebron as just a critique of the "choke" rationale.
Officerrob
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If they don't get that rebound and the last good shot taken is a three that doesn't even hit the rim? Lebron would have been destroyed for "choking"
Nightstick11
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If there was ever a time for Tracy McGrady to rise, it's when the demons threaten to engulf the whole earth via the portal-to-Hell in Miami.
Psychological Intellect
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Man I was so scared every time wade touched the ball.
obijkenobi
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Manu already sounds like he is giong to blow game 7 for us. These are comments from the big 3 this afternoon. Basically, one of these is not like the other.
Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN 36m No team has won a road Game 7 since 1978. Parker: "We're happy to have an opportunity to make history."
Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN 40m Duncan: "We just want to get to the game ... We like our chances."
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 46m Pop to @miketirico on @NBAonESPNRadio on Spurs' own role in getting taken to Game 7: "We better be real unsatisifed to the point of anger"
Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer 51m RT @mikefinger: Manu on his mental state: "Still down. After a blow like that, it's not easy to get back up."
Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN 36m No team has won a road Game 7 since 1978. Parker: "We're happy to have an opportunity to make history."
Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN 40m Duncan: "We just want to get to the game ... We like our chances."
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 46m Pop to @miketirico on @NBAonESPNRadio on Spurs' own role in getting taken to Game 7: "We better be real unsatisifed to the point of anger"
Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer 51m RT @mikefinger: Manu on his mental state: "Still down. After a blow like that, it's not easy to get back up."
Future PhaZe
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Its just crazy to think of how bad Manu is now considering how intimidating this dude was as a player a few years back.
I mean this dude literally shit on our entire olympic squad.
I mean this dude literally shit on our entire olympic squad.
TheKaeptain
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LOL someone actually asked Lebron about the headband.
Black Mamba
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Hah!
MiamiWesker
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Wow that grant land article! So that is what real basketball analysis is like. The wade and lebron stats stick out to me.
TheKaeptain
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Bron said he is going to hang out with his family and his friends he grew up with tonight while watching Spongbob. Lebron also apologized to the fans for almost losing last night.
Green played an ineffective game, not a bad one.
Parker played hero ball at key moments and let the heat back into things because he screwed up the offensive flow for the spurs.
Ginobili had 9 points in 34:41. He was was 2-5 from the field, 4-6 from the free throw line, led the team in personal fouls with 4, and had eight turnovers (out of 13 total spurs turnovers). And basically all of his turnovers were stupid turnovers, not a product of any defense by the heat, just really, really stupid offense by Manu.
he had three fouls in the last 13 minutes of the game (4th quarter and OT), one of which was that boneheaded shooting foul on bosh where he gave up an easy 2 points and a chance at a 3 point play. Two turnovers in the final 45 seconds of OT.
Honestly, I think the spurs would have been better off playing 4 on 5 than playing Ginobili. That's how bad he was.
Figures Manu is the emo bitch of the team right now while Parker, Duncan, and Pop only talk about wanting blood.
If Pop gives Manu more than 20 minutes in Game 7, he's a fucking idiot. Unless Game 5 Manu shows up, it's just ridiculous to try leaning on loyalty because of the past which is going to cost them their last shot at a 5th ring right now. At least Cory Joseph can handle a basketball and doesn't go for the most fucking ridiculous passes when there's no angle there.
The Finals MVP for the Miami Heat.
I've been wondering that in the chatroom yesterday: can anyone think of a single worst performance in the NBA finals than Ginobili's yesterday? Not rhetorical, although I really can not.
Pop should bench Manu for game 7 and play TMac.
MiamiWesker
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I just heard that the spurs had a team dinner after the game where the each talked about their biggest playoff screw ups. Kind of a big therapy session. If we lose I blame the dinner.
The one team that can come from a devastating loss like this is the spurs.
The one team that can come from a devastating loss like this is the spurs.
Yeah Zach lowe is that dude. Makes you realize how dumb- and really not based on anything- half of the things discussed here are.
Pretty much what everyone has been calling for all series.
At least T-Mac wouldn't try any showtime bull shit and keep it simple.
No, seriously, Pop should not play Manu. He's defeated mentally and has shown himself incompetent on the court. He'll only hurt the team's chances with the attitude he has and the way he's playing.
Duncan is hungry. Parker is hungry (even though he fucked things up in OT by trying to play the hero). Pop is hungry. Manu is devastated. Keep him away from the rest of the team.
Duncan is hungry. Parker is hungry (even though he fucked things up in OT by trying to play the hero). Pop is hungry. Manu is devastated. Keep him away from the rest of the team.
And at least T-Mac WANTS to win.
This literally means nothing.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Manu and Wade have both been mostly bad in the postseason, but it's just really hard to bench one of the best and most beloved players in the history of your franchise. I don't think Manu is contributing anything positive right now, but it's hard to just bench him when he's had so much greatness before and might have some left.
Uh, wtf? Yes it does.
If you're not there mentally, you sure as shit aren't gonna be able to perform physically.
Manu blew his load in Game 5. Spurs lose if Pop plays him heavy minutes again in Game 7.
timetokill
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I don't want to see Wade out there for more than 15 minutes total for Game 7. Preferably 10 or fewer.
Manu being terribad really screws up the entire Spurs offense. With Bron on TP, the Heat force the ball to the secondary ballhandler similar to how they defend Chicago. That guy last night was Manu and he sucked. He either made poor decisions or gave the ball back to TP with little time on the clock to throw up some hero shots.
Neal and Danny Green can't run the offense and Bosh is forcing TD to catch way out from the post (with a soft double from Battier if TD is in deep).
SA needs to continue to run out after any Heat miss before the D is set, TP needs to find his lost mid-range J, and have Diaw be the screener/secondary ballhandler to force a defender from Miami to come out from the paint.
Neal and Danny Green can't run the offense and Bosh is forcing TD to catch way out from the post (with a soft double from Battier if TD is in deep).
SA needs to continue to run out after any Heat miss before the D is set, TP needs to find his lost mid-range J, and have Diaw be the screener/secondary ballhandler to force a defender from Miami to come out from the paint.
purvispisgah
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This is especially true considering that if game 5 Manu, or hell even half of Game 5 Manu shows up, the Spurs have a very good chance of winning. Same goes for Game 4 Wade.
Hell, the Spurs had to choke away the win with Manu playing like total trash. And Wade looked terrible on the offensive end and almost cost Miami the game. The dueling shits these two.
Future PhaZe
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I honestly think that Blair needs to get some run. I know Diaw is playing okay defense but the Spurs have no way to make the Heat pay for putting LeBron on Parker right now.
Blair would help with so many things imo
Blair would help with so many things imo
You know, I think Popovich is the greatest coach of all time... but he screwed up last night. Royally. Taking out Duncan was about as dumb a decision as Vokel taking out Hibbert. And leaving Manu in the game was a dumb decision. And he should have called a timeout with ~20 seconds left in OT and drawn up some plays. Instead we got that disastrous scramble by Manu into 4 players and that half court inbound lob to a contested green.
If Popovich is as good as I know he is, he's thinking "What the hell was I dong?" while watching that game tape.
ridethepiggy
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pops took a gamble by not putting duncan in the last minute of play. he lost.
i'd like to think he wont be doing any more gambling on thursday.
purvispisgah
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I'd be interested in what you think Blair would do.
BadAss2961
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I have no problem with Pop leaving Manu in there. In spite of a bad game, he can do something that wins it for you at any time. I'd rather go down with my best players on the floor.
Sitting Duncan on defense was the problem last night. It made no sense at all. The plan in that situation is to get the stop before you worry about the free throws. It bit them in the ass the first time, yet Pop sat him AGAIN leading to another 2nd chance 3.
Sitting Duncan on defense was the problem last night. It made no sense at all. The plan in that situation is to get the stop before you worry about the free throws. It bit them in the ass the first time, yet Pop sat him AGAIN leading to another 2nd chance 3.
StickSoldier
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Aw man, I'm ready to see what happens tomorrow. Is there anyone on the Spurs team that's demanding a double team right now?
MiamiWesker
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I am disappointed in Lebatard today. Van Gundy is ruining the show, ref talk, thats the show they are doing. Ref talk. There is nothing I hate more about basketball than ref talk.
Yup. I think the trick is to extend the periods where only Wade is on the court or only LBJ is on the court.
The substitution pattern for most of the season was that all 3 of the big 3 start and then with 3-5 min left in the first quarter, Wade and Bosh go to the bench. Then LBJ plays with guys like Ray Allen, Battier, Chalmers, and or Miller. They need to somehow maximize this window. In this lineup LBJ should never catch the ball at half court. He should go post up right away with all the rest of the guys on the 3 point line ready for the catch and shoot. If no double team comes, let LBJ take it one on one.
Then when you start the 2nd quarter, about 2 minutes in, bring back Bosh and Wade, rest LBJ, and run a 2 man offense with Bosh and Wade.
I mean they were doing this anyway most of the season but Pacers and Spurs have both knocked them into a panic mode rotation which is just up in the air every game.
They can't be afraid to rest LBJ for some stretches in the first half so he ca potentially play the whole 2nd half if needed. And they need Wade for his defensive presence even if he isn't offering much on offense. Both Bosh and Wade played very underrated defensive games last night.
For all the complaining about ESPN analysis, First Take, or even Skip Bayless...that is about the same level analysis and talk you get here.
The Diaw defense mirage is going to end in Game 7.
Lebron is going to drive every single time, and I don't know how that can be stopped.
Its easy to stop. Don't guard him up front. Give him room to shoot. He will out think himself and not take the shot or only take it when he isn't comfortable taking it.
Unless Diaw is on him when he is surrounded by 4 three point shooters. Then Lebron can eat him alive.
LOL NO.
Just pointing out that he traveled. If that doesn't get called neither should the contact with Ray Allen. LOL.
TheKaeptain
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All this talk about Manu. Pop fucking left in a lineup that would get beat by the bobcats at the beginning of the 4th and let Lebron pop off.
Future PhaZe
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He's terrific on the offensive glass, being physical and scoring inside.
If you have Diaw and Manu on the floor at the same time then you're almost playing 2 on 5 offensively. Diaw is a nonfactor, Manu is a turnover, and Parker is guarded by LeBron.
I think Blair would make them pay down low by punishing the Heat when they go small.