Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
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2013 NBA Playoffs |OT| Lakers started from the bottom, and they still there
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friskykillface
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Lakers gonna win D:
Herpes Reasons
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all they're doing is clinching their asshole while getting the pipe.
Syphon Filter
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waves to stern.
what an expert
theignoramus
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youre talking bout the best shooter in nba history and like a top 5 all time passer vs. a goat perimeter defender and acting like shits wine versus grape juice.
...wat
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
lol @ the thought that Mike D makes most player decisions
Nash can't play a lick of defense, even during his prime. Basketball is not just about offense.
And I thought we were talking about basketball ability, not off court behaviors.
Psychological Intellect
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so are the 2013 lakers basically the 2012 knicks?
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Syphon Filter
Member
he always does,he did it to lin.
Herpes Reasons
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i'd take the glove over nash to start on my team any day of the week.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
no, melo is a better player than anybody on the lakers.
obijkenobi
Member
God damn Manu
Grimm Fandango
Member
Great Manu pass!
I like Nash, a lot even, and I agree with him, not sure how that's debatable.
In his prime, the guy was every bit as good offensively (actually, he was better, but you younglings and your pussy non contact basketball will never believe me) and definsvley, well, I think the phrase LOL you kids use capture that perfectly.
It's true that Nash is aging better, but at their prime?
Yeah, no.
slightconfuse
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TP rubbing it in now
Psychological Intellect
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flashy pass by manu.
ratcliffja
Member
Except the knicks had the wisdom to get rid of D'Antoni before the end of the season, which is the only reason they even made the playoffs and won their first playoff game in over a decade.
Wiggins future.
Red Blaster
Member
nash ran some of the best offenses in NBA history
he also won 54 games in the west with shawn marion as his second best player
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Not sure why everyone on this Laker team is playing extremely hurt when the team has no chance of beating the Spurs anyway.
Spurs looked pretty good tonight.
Spurs looked pretty good tonight.
Dominican Power
Member
Lakers-age is truly dead.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Their games are different
Nash is maybe closer to Stockton in style on O
But even then Stockton played better D and ran half court better
GP played better D than both and was unstoppable in the post and ran the fast break and half court well
Nash is a fraud. He is nothing without loaded teams. GP was the better player and it's not even close
Herpes Reasons
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and payton was hell on both sides of the court.
payton is the better all-around player.
Shawn Marion was pretty good at the time.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Can the losing trend be reversed? Can they ever win again?
theignoramus
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yet you can still chip with average or even bad D from a point guard. youre a fan of a team that won with Derek Fisher, so you know that already.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Nash
Bell
Marion
Kurt Thomas
Diaw
54 wins, 19/11/4 on 63% TS% for Nash. I don't think that team was very stacked.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Sure Payton's a better PG than Nash, but it's not like he's that far behind him. Who else slots between them? Stockton? Kidd?
Pretty good company regardless.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Prime Shawn was really good
Nash plus young athletic wings is good combos until one plants a seed in his wife
Red Blaster
Member
sad that people are trying to ding nash's career just cause he's 40 and playing on a busted, absurdly top-heavy team
Dominican Power
Member
A requiem for Lakers-age is in order.
What the hell does that have to do with which player is better? First you talk about personality, then you talk about winning a chip. You suck at making a point.
Kidd is better than both of them in my opinion.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
No the 2011 knicks are the more apt comparison. By 2012 at at least the end to the knicks suffering was in sight. Lakers will still need 2 seasons to be nice again..... and a better coach.
Gary Payton was pretty much unstoppable for a while, Nash was never as good individually, yeah, he ran that system beautifully, and I'm really not a hater (as I said, I like him a lot personally) but at the end of the day it was a system you can't win shit with, so I don't know, is being the absolute best in 'a good for regular season' system all that important?
But even if I accept that they're comparable offensively, defensively, it's not a contest.
Nash was always a liability and Payton could usually shut down half of the other team, he impacted the game on both side of the floor, dramatically.
Agreed, I think I might like Nash more than Stockton by the way, but I need to think about it, and I don't like to think about the short shorts.
Again, not a hater, but damn, Payton was something else.