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2013 NBA Playoffs |OT2| Rose has no Muscle Memories, Durant having Russell Memories
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ReturnOfTheRAT
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ThisWreckage
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I don't think Rose expected the Bulls to get out of the first round. So he decided to sit out because his thought process was, "Why should I come back and risk re-injuring myself when we're going to lose in five games or six games at the absolute most?" What he didn't anticipate, however, is that his teammates decided to play through injury and they ended up winning in seven games.
So he's got sick/hurt teammates that decided to man up. If that wasn't bad enough, they ended up winning the series. But his torment doesn't stop there. They went on to beat the Heat in game one of the next series. A game they had no business winning. Again, his teammates are playing hurt and still pulled out a win against the mighty Heat. So this narrative has gone terribly for him. So the Bulls team is doing a lot of things that they shouldn't be doing and they're playing well anyway. So people are saying, "If your teammates can contribute with injuries then why can't you play with an injury you're supposedly healed from?" I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how it happened.
So he's got sick/hurt teammates that decided to man up. If that wasn't bad enough, they ended up winning the series. But his torment doesn't stop there. They went on to beat the Heat in game one of the next series. A game they had no business winning. Again, his teammates are playing hurt and still pulled out a win against the mighty Heat. So this narrative has gone terribly for him. So the Bulls team is doing a lot of things that they shouldn't be doing and they're playing well anyway. So people are saying, "If your teammates can contribute with injuries then why can't you play with an injury you're supposedly healed from?" I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how it happened.
Black Mamba
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You sure do like writing psychological fiction about what players think all the time. Like, it's a bit weird.
Morey got robbed. ROBBED. Gary Sacks beat him for second place? For the Clippers? And CP3 is going to Dallas next year? Wtf? And blake griffin is going to the Nets? I don't get it.
Morey got us Asia Money, The Most Improved Center in the league, and The Floppy Beard. And we still got racks on racks on racks. Shitty league.
Morey got us Asia Money, The Most Improved Center in the league, and The Floppy Beard. And we still got racks on racks on racks. Shitty league.
Black Mamba
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Fun fact: Houston only improved by 3 wins from last year (percentage wise)
Nuggets by 10, Clippers by 7.
Pretty sure this is all the voters look at among playoff teams.
Exec and Coach are dumb awards. It's basically the "which team won more games than we thought" or "which team made an obviously easy move to become contender" award most of the time.
ThisWreckage
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Thanks for the contribution. No, really, quoting someone and then calling the post weird in one fell swoop takes an enormous level of talent. But, to be honest, your effort is still more impressive than what Rose has done this season because even you lifted a finger.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
yeah the conclusion is even if she did it their is no conclusive evidence.... However I am glad she is getting some heat in the media. Bitches who live in glass houses shouldn't throw middle fingers because now everyone is thinking your a crazy bitch.....
When you say "Morey got us Asia Money" do you mean "Morey is giving an Asian basketball player much more money than he deserves to be soft and overrated" .... Because if its not Lin then I'm confused as to whom your referring to.
Black Mamba
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Sounds like cancer again.
Gully State
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Bob Myers should be higher. All 3 draft picks have played significant minutes. Jack and Landry have been solid off the bench. Bogut deal has been money.
edit- oh and Steph for 4 years at 44 mil is a steal at this point.
I mean we get that China money from jersey sales that everyone really wants. Lin is just the non-buttermilk icing on the edge of the cake.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
But I thought the league shared all merchandise revenue?
ThisWreckage
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Lakers will be saying the same thing when they extend him.
Meh. I'm completely okay with Rose getting grief for sitting out, I've given him some, but I can't sit by with this.
Rose had them as a 1 seed two years in a row, along with a more stable bench and minus Nate Robinson, Belinelli, a less effective Boozer. Anyone who watched a majority of his games, watched Rose step up every time teams made runs at the Bulls, every time their scoring sagged late in game. The team has changed since he left, and the players like Deng/Boozer and somewhat Noah took on a bigger role in his absence knowing he wouldn't be there at the end of games.
It's made the Bulls a more well rounded, less predictable team to end games but they definitely lost superstar. Opportunistic post though.
Now if you were talking about Howard being an overblown, system player - that I could get behind. He was amazing in the Hawks series, but outside of that I watched him score 2 points here, 6 here and get by on the credit of being the game's best defensive center. Which completely fell by the wayside this year, whatever health you want to talk of. He was never a top 3 player, or top 5, yet we watched him land #2 on a lot of lists.
Thank you for this. Glad we've exposed Jordan had most help of any supposed superstar.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Roland Deschain
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I only follow the NBA during the playoffs (Europe) so I'm not up to date with everything. I have a question about Golden State. Watched the two Spurs games and was very impressed. They said something about an all-star on the bench. David Lee I think? If he comes back how much better will it make GS? What kind of injury does he have? Thanks.
obijkenobi
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Kinda feel like whoever wins game 3 between Spurs/Warriors is going to take the series. Pretty nervous about it to be honest. I'm hoping Duncan dominates the game. I'm talking like 30 points and 15 boards
Future PhaZe
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its time to rebuild bruh
Yeah, David Lee. He has a torn hip flexor. Don't believe it requires surgery or anything, but I highly doubt he'll be playing any meaningful minutes this series.
As for how much better he makes GS, it's tough to say after this recent stretch of games. He's very effective at scoring in the post and is a good rebounder, but as a W's fan who has watched the team all season him being out seems to free up our offense. Without needing to get Lee touches in the post our backcourt is doing work on the perimeter. Steph Curry is hands down the best shooter in the league so more looks for him is always a good thing and Klay Thompson was top three in made 3 pointers this year (and both shoot over 40% from 3). Also, we can go to Klay Thompson at 6-7 or Harrison Barnes at 6-8 in the post when teams put their best perimeter defender on Steph Curry.
Like with San Antonio, if they try to rotate Tony Parker onto one of our other perimeter guys he's just too small to guard them. Also, Lee's interior defense isn't very good, so it's an upgrade on that end with the guys we have filling in at power forward. Though it's important to note that our center was not healthy all year and he's really anchoring our defense in the playoffs, so maybe Lee wouldn't be as much of a liability playing with an effective Bogut. Tough to say.
Only worry is that relying too much on the jumpshot can sometimes bite you in the ass, so we'll see how we do moving forward. Klay's fadeaway in the post is nice and Barnes is improving every day it seems, but neither is an actual post scorer like David Lee.
Roland Deschain
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Wow thanks for the info.
Out of all current matchups I like GS-SA the best by far. A lot of flow to the games. Heard a lot about Curry but seeing him in action is something else. How was he not selected as an all-star though?
Never heard about Thompson :s so he's really been an eye opener. That three point shooting in G2 damn.
Future PhaZe
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I think its less about GS being amazing and more about San Antonio falling off to be honest
Yea they swept the Lakers but they couldn't have looked less impressive while doing it
I think the Grizz would sweep GS. They should have swept OKC. Durants playing on another level though and holding that team up with his will.
Yea they swept the Lakers but they couldn't have looked less impressive while doing it
I think the Grizz would sweep GS. They should have swept OKC. Durants playing on another level though and holding that team up with his will.
Yeah, Curry is good enough to be an all-star, but it's tough as a guard with established vets like Kobe, Chris Paul, and Tony Parker. Harden also exploded this year as a starter on Houston so I can understand him making it over Curry.
Curry has been plagued by injuries his first few years also, so I don't think he's been able to show his full potential. Don't think people were expecting him to have such a great year. But now that he's healthy I'll be surprised if he doesn't make it next year.
As for Klay, he's really coming along nicely. He's only been in the league for one year so he's young, but he's becoming a great defender and is starting to drive the ball more rather than only relying on the 3 ball. Can see him as an all-star in a few years also if he can become more consistent.
I think the Warriors have been pretty impressive thus far in the playoffs, but I don't like the Grizzlies matchup either for us. Gasol and Randolph could be a nightmare for us to handle and the Grizz have guys who can match up with Curry, Klay, and Barnes in Conley, Allen, and Prince.
I'm also still nervous about the Spurs series so we may not even get to play Memphis/OKC. I'd love for us to get up by 20 again tonight in the second quarter or something and take the series lead, but I feel like Pop is going to have some good adjustments somewhere and the Spurs will probably shoot it better from the outside. We'll need to play a really solid game tonight to win I think. Even better than in game 2 since our second half wasn't anything amazing.
The thing is, Exec of the year is voted by other executives, they are supposed to know better than the sports media. I guess not.
Future PhaZe
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Perimeter defense has to be schemed up from go (i.e Bulls, Heat), its almost impossible to get your perimeter defense on point over night.
At this point the only thing Pop can do is try to work on some sets to keep his offense in the hundred plus range to try to win shootouts.
Warriors probably win in 6 though. Its a bad sign when guys score at a high level away, because you know the offense is going to be there and them some at Oracle.
There's a good chunk of NBA gaf that are probably smarter than a vast portion of the GM's in the league so its not surprising.
At this point the only thing Pop can do is try to work on some sets to keep his offense in the hundred plus range to try to win shootouts.
Warriors probably win in 6 though. Its a bad sign when guys score at a high level away, because you know the offense is going to be there and them some at Oracle.
There's a good chunk of NBA gaf that are probably smarter than a vast portion of the GM's in the league so its not surprising.
Future PhaZe
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do these chicks even try to act like they arent in it for money and status
cmon now
cmon now
like the players are in it for love?
That smile of hers was genuine and you can tell by her eyes that she really loves him. So no you cant.
Gully State
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Ice cold...
Future PhaZe
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sure, hard not to love that body
Shump and Rose got hurt around the same time.
Looks like Shump is from the good part of Chicago.
Lol season over
Enjoy Lin riding the bench for the next 2 years.
Hope he is worth the jersey sales in Asia
CreepingFear
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I give him credit for at least trying, unlike Rose.
Still Deng-less for tonight which doesn't help but man, feels crazy how he's been trashed online for not playing "with the Flu.", the internet is vicious :O
It'll be interesting to see how things go tonight, sure hope we can bounce back and actually have some kind of flow to the game and not foul after foul >_<. Rose won't play and it'll be another wave of the fucking media going in circles about it for way too long, ugh. In a word, Go Bulls!
It'll be interesting to see how things go tonight, sure hope we can bounce back and actually have some kind of flow to the game and not foul after foul >_<. Rose won't play and it'll be another wave of the fucking media going in circles about it for way too long, ugh. In a word, Go Bulls!
what an asshole.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Joey Crawford is one of the refs for game 3 between Heat and Bulls.
Bulls don't even need Derrick Rose.
Bulls don't even need Derrick Rose.
Is Lebron playing? Well then everything is a foul. Hard foul him it's a foul, barely touch him it's a foul, breathe anywhere near him it's a foul....look at him from across the court while he travels it's a foul. Hey, he's good, VERY good but he doesn't need the extra help from the refs.
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