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2014 NBA Feb |OT| Stern retires after failed attempt to bring pro basketball to NY
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Kyrie career 3pt%: 38.4%
Dirk Nowitzki 3pt%: 38.3%
he is at 35.5% for the season.. and Dirk isnt there either.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Kyrie did win last year though. If he said he wanted to participate, Is the NBA just gonna go "lol, no"?
Future PhaZe
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LeBron said:
yo damn
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Lebron's not getting 6 rings.
Hasphat'sAnts
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He could conceivably bump Wilt
The Maverick
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Not better than their current jerseys. Cavs have some of the best retros. The Raptors are a team that comes to mind when I think of needing better jerseys.
They'd rather include players that are going to be there already for the ASG. It's why Lillard is in over Matthews.
I like them, but the current Cavs unis are already among the best in the league.
Too bad the team is so shitty.
On a related note, I really hope OKC gets a uni refresh in the next couple years. The home unis are OK (if a little bland), and the road unis are nice except for the chest text. But the alternates are ass.
I've always liked the idea of a bison motif, or thunderclouds, or some kind of thematic element that adds some pop.
I really liked this redesign that got posted on Uni Watch:
I actually don't have an issue with the *idea* of our alternates. A classy navy and white color scheme with piping along all the edges and the waistband should look good.
The execution is just... off. The vertical "THUNDER" along the right looks different on every player (and bad on most), they don't pop or make a statement... they're just boring. They look like they were designed and approved by white men over 50. And they almost certainly were.
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Are there even people of color in JokeKC? :3
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Yes. Just not many who own graphic design firms or professional basketball teams.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Ehh, it's true though. Even if you count Russell and Kareem (who had their primes in miserable eras), it's hard to see guys other than them and Jordan who had a better career than LeBron. He already has as many Finals MVPs, more win shares, and more MVPs than Bird who is always rated as a top 6 guy. Besides, everyone thinks they're the best player in the league and ever.
He should've gone full heel from the start
I dont know why but this made me LOL
Bump Wilt from what? He might not even be a top 4 center ever..never mind all time player.
Future PhaZe
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It's really upsetting the way guys sleep on Wilt for being unbelievably better than his competition during the Civil Rights era where someone was probably planning to catch a body almost everywhere he went.
I mean I understand advanced stats and etc, but seriously, have more than two rings before talking about him being better than Wilt and Bill. LeBron is lucky to have two right now with that Spurs choke.
That's my point... he's not likable. Just because something's true doesn't mean you have to say it. Something like this will hold his legacy back, the more likable you are the more marketable you are.
Kobe was never likeable either, but he's (probably) going to be ahead of the people's champ Shaq in the historical record.
Who the fuck cares, Skip Bayless? It's basketball, not Donald Trump's creepy beauty pageant.
Lol if you think that doesn't matter to the public.
Future PhaZe
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yea he's checked out mentally, clearly tired and ready for the break
its going to be a blowout
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Wiz are the best team in the league when they're one game under .500 lol
You probably got your panties in a tizzy over Sherman's rant, too.
Lebron isn't running to be my son-in-law. If he wants to be arrogant, let him be as long as he can put his money where his mouth is.
Did I ever say me personally? Way to miss the point. The guy has pissed people off multiple times. He has #lebroning, he had the "you go back to your (worthless implied) lives", "the heat is losin (dwade)", etc. He made himself a villain and look foolish. Something like this just reminds people who he is/was, when he's clearly trying to shed that.
To the 2nd point I thought the Sherman thing was hilarious, but they are 2 completely different things. What Sherman did is worse in that it brings a lot of unnecessary noise to your team. Not that I cared though, Crabtree is a little bitch.
He has a long way to go until he reaches Starks/Oakley villain levels.
I do appreciate the #lebroning, though. Come on, Silver. Have some balls and fine him for once.
Doesn't matter, everyone loved Shaq, everyone loved Jordan. There's a reason people still route against Lebron, and that's all my point is. He's an idiot. Like I said he did a good job of being humble and quiet, and the commercials, and the interviews such as the one with Robin Roberts, etc, but everytime he takes a few steps forward he takes 10 back.
What should he do?
Psychological Intellect
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meh, dude was asked where he thinks he'll rank after his career is over and gave an actual instead of just saying "that's for you guys to decide"
it's really nothing. idk.
the other stuff, is pretty petty besides the flopping which is funny more than anything or maybe watching the heat play every night has got me not caring about flopping.
Bro, Jordan was a huge dick, too. It's not like he was a company man that always acted humble. Shaq went around proclaiming to be the best in the world for years.
Anyways, like Psych said, he was answering a question. It's not like he just burst out of the locker room and started pissing on a Larry Bird poster. Although that would be pretty fucking amazing.
There's a different way of handling it. Shaq handled it more in a way that it almost seemed like comedy. Something about Lebron is just so douchey. I get where you guys are coming from, but the public has not liked it in the past, his image has improved not just because he got a ring, but because he embraced his family friendly image.
edit- and again I don't care, the guy is a beast, I'd take few over him to build a franchise. I'm strictly talking public image here.
So do you dislike Barkley for his brutal honesty and some of the arrogance he's displayed?
You just used Shaq and Jordan as examples in this situation...when they are two of the biggest egos in the history of the game
You're just picking whatever you want to like and dislike and that's fine but at least be consistent with your feelings before you start rattling off examples
Damn does anybody even know how to read?
edit- to clarify again for the 10th time I don't give a shit what he says or does (minus his whining, which was insuferable during his cavs days). What I am talking about is purely perception. Shaq had multiple movies, and great commercials, and shoe deals, and tv shows like hosting nickelodeon. Jordan had space jam, and his shoe line, and Space Jam. They did everything they could to perfect their image as a likable family friendly good guy, and for the most part it was able to mask the other stuff they did (jordan gambling, partying, ego, etc.) Lebron has done so many stunts in the publics eye and has to publicly apologize and rebuild his entire image since that's not what he's going for (look at the whole what should I do ad). If you don't believe this was his goal/intention then you simply don't understand PR. Comments like this are not what the people want to hear. They don't want to see Ray Allen flip Reggie Miller off and say, your record is buried BITCH, they want to see them embrace and respect eachother, get it?
The way I see it, there are about three "levels" of public perception.
There's the largest audience which is the general audience - the people that only see Lebron in commercials, maybe a playoff game or two - people that don't really follow basketball. All they know about Lebron is that a) he's really good at basketball and b) he seems to have fun with his friends in barbershops based on commercials.
There's the middle audience which is the casual basketball fan that watches basketball but doesn't follow the analysis, watch press conferences, etc. Most of their exposure is from a couple games a month and Sportscenter. Their perception of Lebron is that a) he's really fucking good at basketball and b) he sure pounds his chest a lot and c) the flopping thing is sort of funny. Again, they don't see this sort of shit.
Then there's the hardcore basketball nerds like (most of) us that give every athlete shit for every little bit. Again, we all respect Lebron because he's really fucking great at basketball, historically even, but there are bits about his game that some of us hate, some of us love, and we talk about it. Two years ago, it was his refusal to post up. That's sort of gone by the wayside by now, and now it seems we've moved onto perceptions of his character, his arrogance, his flopping, etc. And that's all fine and good - the flopping in particular is totally deserved.
There's the largest audience which is the general audience - the people that only see Lebron in commercials, maybe a playoff game or two - people that don't really follow basketball. All they know about Lebron is that a) he's really good at basketball and b) he seems to have fun with his friends in barbershops based on commercials.
There's the middle audience which is the casual basketball fan that watches basketball but doesn't follow the analysis, watch press conferences, etc. Most of their exposure is from a couple games a month and Sportscenter. Their perception of Lebron is that a) he's really fucking good at basketball and b) he sure pounds his chest a lot and c) the flopping thing is sort of funny. Again, they don't see this sort of shit.
Then there's the hardcore basketball nerds like (most of) us that give every athlete shit for every little bit. Again, we all respect Lebron because he's really fucking great at basketball, historically even, but there are bits about his game that some of us hate, some of us love, and we talk about it. Two years ago, it was his refusal to post up. That's sort of gone by the wayside by now, and now it seems we've moved onto perceptions of his character, his arrogance, his flopping, etc. And that's all fine and good - the flopping in particular is totally deserved.
Agree to disagree on this part. This will trend on twitter, people will ask why. First thing that pops up when you type his name in is the quote.
edit- I don't think this will do significant damage to his image either, it's just another one you can chalk up against his ability to sell his image to the public.
Funny thing is, this is probably true.
John Wall in his purest form.
LiveFromKyoto
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Hawks/Raps tonight should be a good one. These teams will probably stay close until the end of the season.
yep. pretty much why i decided to grab some tickets for tonights game
Future PhaZe
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The idea that mid-range shots are bad shots is a fallacy. The issue is that long two's that are a foot or two in front of the three point line are bad shots. The problem is with the speed on the perimeter defensively now it's easier to create threes than it is mid-range twos.
I think I read somehwere that Durant is a ridiculous like 46% off the dribble for jumpers.
This is what I was talking about earlier... would that free up enough to take a run at melo?
No thanks.
Hasphat'sAnts
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I don't think it's a fallacy. The math doesn't lie. a 33% 3pt shot is the equivalent of a 50% 2pt shot, a proposition that a midrange jump shot decidedly isn't, but that's more or less the symptom of the 22-foot pull up jump shot being the result of a disrupted possession. The point of offensive possessions is to manufacture high expected point totals, and a play that is designed to result in a semi-contested Dirk pull up is still a better proposition than Shane Larkin launching a 3.
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