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2014 NBA Feb |OT| Stern retires after failed attempt to bring pro basketball to NY
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but doesn't Portland launch a lot of 3s
Psychological Intellect
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sssshhhh
If you're going to shoot like crap from mid range like most players do your are better off shooting low 30's from 3. The mid range shot is horrible because most people suck at them making it a very inefficient shot.
Nope doesn't really help or hurt chances at that, but it clears playing time for Gibson and saves the Bulls about 20 million dollars (for Jerry to use on the White Sox). We don't want Boozer anymore anyways. Bulls could grab a pick out of it, though.
Starchasing
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I think it depends. A higher percentage shot leads to less possible fast breaks so it gives you time to arm a better defense. Of course a shot a feet from 3 is not very desirable, but midrange shots and shots around the key are desirable in my opinion.
Also having mid-shots in your arsenal during a game makes your game less predictable and mid-shots are great way to finish a play off the sideline.
And as an spectator is boring when teams either dunk or shoot 3, i would prefer to move away the 3 point line to bring more variety into the game. Old FIBA games where the 3 was at 6,25 were horrible to watch as they often threw just too many 3s.
I totally agree. Its the player fault. The shot is ok.
lawlohwhat
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Well, last night didn't end well, but it was probably the best game I've seen at the rose garden. Glad I got to see durant up close at this point in his career. His 36 was almost effortless. Nic played some great defense on him in the last few possessions, though.
I recorded a video of lma's final shot because I honestly believed lillard would be shooting, and that it would be a game winner. No idea why a guy who was ice cold all game got the green light to shoot, but whatever. Stotts gonna stotts.
Also, I feared the worst as soon as I saw freeland go down. Glad it's just a sprain.
I recorded a video of lma's final shot because I honestly believed lillard would be shooting, and that it would be a game winner. No idea why a guy who was ice cold all game got the green light to shoot, but whatever. Stotts gonna stotts.
Also, I feared the worst as soon as I saw freeland go down. Glad it's just a sprain.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
The midrange jumper is the worst shot in basketball.
Hasphat'sAnts
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I was just trying to argue that the whole point about "mid range jump shots are bad!" is that if you put 3 dudes who respectively shot league average from close to the basket, from the midrange, and from three, and just had them shoot those shots over and over again, the layup guy and the 3 point guy will eventually win because they have a higher expected point total. That's the entire thesis of the argument and I think it holds water.
Within the context of how an NBA team should run its offense though, it should be only 1 of many factors to consider.
I think you mean, give up a pick.
And the suns have been linked to every team with a PF.
Suns would want noah, not Boozer. And that aint happening.
LegendofJoe
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I thought the Bulls were shopping Gibson? Why in the world would the Suns want Boozer when they could trade for someone just as good with half the price tag in Gibson?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Most players don't suck at midrange jumpers, it's just extremely difficult/near impossible to make jumpshots in live game action over 50% of the time (which is the level you need to convert it at the rate needed to make it efficient). There's Dirk and ?
John Stockton.
Durant and PG were very efficient there to start the season.
Not sure if that held up.
But there aint many of them.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Paging Vahagn right now...
Dirk is an anomaly because he shoots consistently well in every area of the court. Obviously he's got his favorite spots as well, but he's dangerous everywhere.
I think players like Timmy who aren't consistently good mid range shooters have found this one shot (the 18 foot bank shot from the left elbow in his case) that they can make on a consistent basis, and smart coaches will use that knowledge to manufacture that exact shot.
Dominican Power
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Heat gonna get owned tonight.
Psychological Intellect
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Last year was probably a fluke. I'm glad hes taking(and making) those threes now since he isn't god tier at the mid range this year.chris bosh used to be a damn good mid range guy
now all he wants to do is chuck threes
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Black Mamba
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The mid range shot is important. You need to have guys that can hit that shot consistently enough when the clock runs down/plays run down.
A wide open mid range shot is also a good percentage shot. It's why Portland's offense is so good, because they generate a lot of open looks from mid range and from 3.
It's the long range non-3 that is terrible (a foot or so inside the line) and contested mid range shots (not end of clock) that are bad.
I'd rather have a lot of players shoot a wide open 18 foot shot than a semi-contested 3 (but not an open 3, of course). Thing is, there aren't many wide open 18 foot shots for decent shooters these days.
A wide open mid range shot is also a good percentage shot. It's why Portland's offense is so good, because they generate a lot of open looks from mid range and from 3.
It's the long range non-3 that is terrible (a foot or so inside the line) and contested mid range shots (not end of clock) that are bad.
I'd rather have a lot of players shoot a wide open 18 foot shot than a semi-contested 3 (but not an open 3, of course). Thing is, there aren't many wide open 18 foot shots for decent shooters these days.
Future PhaZe
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doesn't he shoot 49% from mid-range?
this, it's just the fact that modern offenses and court spacing dictates that a three point shot is better due to the fact that it's consistently less contested than other parts on the floor
I think it's possible to be a deadly offensive team in todays NBA working primarily off of PNR and flare screens, but nobody is about that life anymore
Essentially.
It's easier to close out on an 18ft shot than a 24ft 3pta. A lot less distance to cover, and usually more bodies in the area.
The midrange shot is mainly bad because dudes settle for it.
If it comes off a kick out or pumpfake, then it's fine.
It's the Kome dribble into it when you could get to the rim or taking long 2s when you could step back a little for 3s.
It is a great shot to have for sure but too many people use it wrong or settle for it.
If it comes off a kick out or pumpfake, then it's fine.
It's the Kome dribble into it when you could get to the rim or taking long 2s when you could step back a little for 3s.
It is a great shot to have for sure but too many people use it wrong or settle for it.
Bogut and O'Neal are out and Speights sure as hell isn't giving another MVP performance
Agreed, it's a farce. Same with Korver.
Black Mamba
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Kover chose not to be there. IIRC, he just had a kid and asked to have the weekend off to see him/her.
Korver chose not to go in order to be with his newborn kid.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
That was the entire point of that post... lol
ClutchFans ‏@clutchfans
Beverley has an abdominal strain and will not play tonight, according to McHale.
yo, you jinxed him mang
Adam Blade
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Blakeace am cry.
Syphon Filter
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Blakeace am cry.
He should be a Wiz fan.
Dominican Power
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Blakeace am cry.
Minnesota/Milwaukee, take your pick. There's barely enough talent to fill the rosters of 30 teams.
Which raises and interesting quesiton, which franchises are up for sale?
I know the bucks might be.
Wolves aren't? there were some shenanigans going on a while ago but nothing I've heard indicates a sale now.
That's about it though?
I mean, i know a lot of teams changed hands over the last 3 or 5 years. Memphis, Pelicans, GSW, Kings, Hawks, Horncats, Wizards, Pistons, Nets.
But i'm not sure there are any really up for grabs at the moment?
Hasphat'sAnts
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It's gonna suck when the Bucks move to Seattle.
Legacies of Big O, Kareem, gone.
Legacies of Big O, Kareem, gone.
The Maverick
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Bucks used to be a pit stop to greatness. Now it's the last one before irrelevancy.
Psychological Intellect
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I'm fine with Curry going for 50 tonight. I just don't want Lee shitting on us again like last time.
Syphon Filter
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What makes you think he will go for 50?
Syphon Filter
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I love watching the Celtics play the Spurs at home because the always have to talk about how they didn't land Duncan
Adam Blade
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I love watching the Celtics play the Spurs at home because the always have to talk about how they didn't land Duncan
Speaking of the Bucks fading into nothing, they drafted Number 6 that year, Yi Jianlian
Dominican Power
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Big O played there at the twilight of his career and Kareem's legacy is with The Lakers.
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