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2014 NBA |OT| Let's just wait it out. Be NKY/LAL fans and lose our games together.
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Will do, thanks.
The Basketball Jones, now turned into the The Starters have a weekly podcast. I fell off them when it was just audio versions of their TV show, but have gotten back on board with their weekly.
Simmons, Lowe and Jalen are worth a listen, as mentioned, though inconsistent with their schedule.
jordan0386
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Lowe Post Podcast
Randolph Freelander
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Another ESPN article fresh for the new year over Cleveland's troubles, this one telling Dan Gilbert to either fire Blatt or get LeBron to vociferously buy in.
http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3445/cavs-enter-2015-at-boiling-point
http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3445/cavs-enter-2015-at-boiling-point
CherryWoodFuton
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We're all gonna look at all this gloom and doom and laugh in June after the Cavs steamroll to the Finals
lol
He will probably make the HOF cos he has 2 rings and 4 Finals appearances lol
Chezzymann
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Awesome highlights from another game of harden playing out of his mind and making another MVP statement. 36 points, 6 assists, and 8/11 shooting from the three point line.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vthZhaW69-o
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vthZhaW69-o
No defensive highlights lol
Square Triangle
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Did I hear complaints about Josh Smith's % in that video? Get use to it, Houston.
I get it with the bowl games and all but, man, boring day in games.
I get it with the bowl games and all but, man, boring day in games.
Chezzymann
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Well, he got 7 rebounds and 2 steals this game. He's improved on his defense dramatically this season and is no longer terrible, now he's an above average defender. I guess people don't want any positive news about him around here though.
Some really great passes in here, including the no look at 3:56. I'm not a huge fan of Harden but I respect his game (aside from driving to get calls).
This Hornets D tho... they let him have the 3 all day lol
I'm a big Harden fan, and Steve Nash proved you don't need to play defense to win an MVP. But it's Anthony Davis' to lose at this point.
Is OKC the first team that trade player with MVP accolade if Harden win it?
Davis not gonna win it with that record, not his fault though.
Davis not gonna win it with that record, not his fault though.
Syphon Filter
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not if rose is healthy.
Kobe?
Stats don't lie, and the media knows he's playing out of his mind. Not his fault the West triumphs the East and he can't make the playoffs at .500. There's still hope they make it tho.
Lots of times. Kareem, Lebron, Kobe, KG, etc.
Kobe didn't win it when he average 35ppg
And this Pelican team most likely had worse record than that.
Oh yeah forgot about KG, still what a shitty trade that was by Presti lol
Yeah, Kobe got robbed that year but you forget that The Suns weren't the best team in the league that year, and Kobe still had the Colorado and Shaq stuff hanging on him
I still think something like 41-41 is gonna massive case against Davis, No one will win MVP no matter how spectatular the stat with that record. if its record Curry had possibility to had his team get similar record to that Suns team that you mentioning. For stats hard-on Harden likely have similar number to one of Lebron's MVP year, and Rockets gonna had far better record than Pelicans.
I really don't see how Davis win it, if just he had better teammate than Tyreke Evans, sure. lol
Randolph Freelander
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ESPN Bottom Line says LeBron will miss two weeks for his back and knee.
Big Baybee
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Lebron won 60 games with a bunch of scrubs back in the day. Haven't been keeping up since it's still football season, but what happened?
Rafa=FedKilla
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The league has just gotten better.
Ninja Scooter
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11 seasons + 4 straight NBA Final runs puts a shit load of mileage on a guy. He's only 29 but he's got the NBA body of a 35 year old.
I bet he's missing Wade's PEDs right about now.
Ninja Scooter
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Wade should get a refund or a new supplier if he's still missing 25 games a year.
He also got a block last game. He now has more blocks in just 31 games this season than he managed to get the entirety of last season.
The Grizz without Gasol was a non-playoff team. The Grizz with Gasol is a title contender. The Pelis without Davis is a non-playoff team. The Pelis with Davis is a non-playoff team. The thought that someone on the team with only the 15th best record in the league is utterly ludicrous. I mean, how valuable are your stats when they don't lead to wins?
Anthony Davis is playing with two of the worst ball-hogs in the league and a completely clueless coach. It's certainly not his fault that the Pelicans will miss the playoffs.
Syphon Filter
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they will get it together and make the ECF.
Couple of good games tomorrow... Wiz @ OKC and Raps @ Dubs.
Also MVP voting for me comes down to either Steph or Marc Gasol, with Harden behind both - assuming Grizz and Dubs can stay close to their current paces. I'd also like to see guys like Jimmy Butler, John Wall and Kyle Lowry get some votes too.
Also MVP voting for me comes down to either Steph or Marc Gasol, with Harden behind both - assuming Grizz and Dubs can stay close to their current paces. I'd also like to see guys like Jimmy Butler, John Wall and Kyle Lowry get some votes too.
Their ceiling is a second round team to me. Just not enough defense. But they could definitely lose in the first if they fall to 6th or below seed. This next stretch without Bron is going to be huge.
also Dion Waiters is gonna eat all of LeBron's attempts
Not crazy. Right now they'd have to play the Bulls. And even if Chicago climbs they'd have to play the Wizards.
I don't think so. They have no defense. Lebron would have to play out of his mind.
They'll be out in the 2nd I think.
I certainly don't blame him for them missing out. He's not a pulling a Kobe to get his. The way that roster is constructed is terrible and the fault of their front office. Having said that, when I watch them play (which is admittedly not a lot), he doesn't look like the go to guy. It's all the more astounding he still gets his numbers, but that doesn't change my opinion that the MVP award shouldn't go to somebody whose team is dead last in their division.
I agree Curry and Gasol are the favourites. Chuck in Lillard and you have all the guys I'd have in the conversation. With the Hawks, it's a bit harder to pin down a guy since they're essentially the Spurs East. I don't know how the people who actually get to vote go about it, but for me, it isn't a 'most stats' award, or even a best player award. It's about who contributed the most to their team's success?
I think the case can be made for Harden, but his game is polarising, so I'll doubt he'll get it. Without Howard (and two other starters), he led a starting group consisting of Tarik Black, Donatas Motiejunas, Trevor Ariza and Isaiah Canaan, to not just stay afloat in the West, but play winning basketball. I mean, outside of Ariza, have any non-Rockets fans heard of any of these guys?
It's kinda funny you mention Curry's real value. I can see where you're coming from. On a team as stacked as the Dubs, he plays less minutes and takes less of the burden on both ends, which disadvantages his stats compared to guys like Harden and Butler. On the flip side of that, since Morey did his trades to bolster Harden's supporting cast, he's played less minutes, shot better and committed less turnovers. Small sample size for now, but curious to see how his efficiency changes with the additional help.
ZeroMaverick
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If I was Ludacris, I would buy the Atlanta Hawks