Shamrock7r
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Coming of age game for Leonard
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2014 NBA Playoffs |OT| Men lie, Women lie, Bagels don't.
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victreeb3l
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Yikes. Oh well, theres always next year Portland.
Yeah I actually don't think CP is that charismatic on TV.
Glorified G
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Spurs are scary good. How are they doing this without Parker?
Syphon Filter
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Bam Bam Baklava
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Thunder may be 4-0 against the Spurs this season but I think we just learned that doesn't mean shit.
Pharaoh 117
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Because Portland's defense is scary bad.
Darknight34
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Biggest joke in the NBA is D-Will?
Still the refs, who apparently dont know what a reach-in or hack foul is anymore.
Syphon Filter
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what do you mean?
Darknight34
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Lol well done, I needed a good smile after that.
BadAss2961
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They were just showing the Shaq/Cat gif on TNT. lmao
friskykillface
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haha I love that gif, always makes me laugh
Bam Bam Baklava
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That's crazy how they only get one actual nets player on that boat.
Jmanunknown
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Steve Kerr might regret his choice to coach the warriors after he realizes how hard it is to just make the playoffs in the west.
The Knicks were hands down the easier place to go.
The West is brutal and it isn't going to give any time soon.
I mean next season there are really only 2 or 3 teams you can realistically count out of the playoff hunt: Kings, Jazz, and maybe the Lakers. Everyone else has the potential to challenge for a playoff spot if healthy.
The NBA needs to do the right thing and go to a top-16-overall format. The western conference owners run their teams 100x better and their reward is a playoff gauntlet, they have to be getting fed up. And the leastern losers aren't helped by getting into the playoffs unfairly because it just gives them a worse pick.
I like this idea. #fucktheleast
Seeing Deron out there in the 2nd round was such a joke.
BadAss2961
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Doesn't matter where Steve Kerr ended up, he's destined to be a bust. His reign in Phoenix flopped, and no one wanted him until Phil Jackson did. Suddenly he becomes the hottest coach available.
Golden State is dumb as hell.
Golden State is dumb as hell.
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god damn I can't believe they bought this hype thinking about it more and the coaches available out there.
Hey, maybe he'll perform like Hornacek, hahahahahahahahahaha, but another year of Jackson would have been better than this.
I agree 100%. The current format really does make little sense and the only real reason it exists is out of history and tradition.
jordan0386
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I'm guessing (hoping) two more seasons until this becomes a reality. NBA would love another 3-peat and to keep the narrative going the next year. Hopefully whoever comes out of the west crushes the Heat but that ain't happening..it will go 6-7. And Kerr is going to do just fine.
/need to put Spurs avatar back on
I doubt the ratings for Eastern conference games are all that great, the biggest story and drama is what is the wrong with Pacers, which is hardly a ratings pull "COME SEE IF THE PACERS CAN STOP SUCKING, JOIN US LIVEEE!!". Last year it was whether Rose would be back to help the Bulls and the whole playoff tree featured one significant series in Pacers - Heat. Years prior to that it was whether the Celtics still "got it". The time before that it was whether LeBron could drag the carcass of Cavs to the finals. The conference has sucked for a long time.
There is a feeling that every western conference playoff team would beat every eastern conference playoff team bar the Heat in a 7 game series. And maybe even the Suns could beat the likes of Nets and Pacers.
Its just not good TV, even if you are a Heat fan, there is not pull to see them shit on Bobcats, there is something slightly sweet seeing LeBron dominate Pierce and Garnett, but he has done that before, its like John Cena overcoming the odds again. So even if you support the top teams in the East, there is not much there to enjoy right now.
I am pretty salty about this, but its still been a great playoff season so far, but that is 99% due to the western conference, the 1% is reserved for East and those who enjoy watching Pacers flounder around
There is a feeling that every western conference playoff team would beat every eastern conference playoff team bar the Heat in a 7 game series. And maybe even the Suns could beat the likes of Nets and Pacers.
Its just not good TV, even if you are a Heat fan, there is not pull to see them shit on Bobcats, there is something slightly sweet seeing LeBron dominate Pierce and Garnett, but he has done that before, its like John Cena overcoming the odds again. So even if you support the top teams in the East, there is not much there to enjoy right now.
I am pretty salty about this, but its still been a great playoff season so far, but that is 99% due to the western conference, the 1% is reserved for East and those who enjoy watching Pacers flounder around
Devilgunman
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The Spurs is scary good on both end. Splitter and Kawhi step up their game big time this post season. I really want the Spur to play OKC again in the WCF. The payback is dued.
Jag
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That's a pretty broad statement. There are good owners and shitty owners on both sides.
I watch for Wall (TM)
You just don't appreciate and understand good Eastern Conference basketball.
Ninja Scooter
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I don't get the idea of giving 5 years to a guy with no coaching experience, especially after you just fired a guy who was hired with no coaching experience.
RBelong2Us
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Steve Kerr has gotten too much praise from too many legends of the game to be a complete bust. Warriors have freaking Jerry West doing consulting for the them , some of you dudes think you know more crap than the logo? Heck someone just said nobody wanted him until Phil Jackson did... Think about that, Phil Jackson has more knowledge in his left nut than you do. Not to mention they are gonna get a stud assistant coach and staff around him, Kerr has legit connections.
Look at Mark Jackson, never particularly prepared, not so much a bright mind, and just overall bland besides his relationship with the players and he was able to get 50 wins out of them. On all accounts Kerr seems like a way more knowledgeable individual that can incorporate some type of strategy unlike Jackson.
Look at Mark Jackson, never particularly prepared, not so much a bright mind, and just overall bland besides his relationship with the players and he was able to get 50 wins out of them. On all accounts Kerr seems like a way more knowledgeable individual that can incorporate some type of strategy unlike Jackson.
I agree with this. Mark Jackson had no coaching experience when he was hired and I definitely think Kerr has a more sound knowledge base of the game considering he learned from two of the all time greats. And the Warriors have already said they'll pay top dollar to surround him with top notch assistants. Kerr will be fine.
Yeah, all of that is why I'm holding out hope that he'll be okay. I just was a little surprised that he seemed to be so in-demand without any experience.
And really, as long as Steph is on board with it and resigns in a few years then I dun give a phuck.
RBelong2Us
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Mark Jackson would have been fine if he wasn't such a prick. Him and Mike Malone wouldn't even communicate at times and look at the crazy on goings this year. Dude wouldn't listen to anyone about actual coaching implementations. You undermine him or aren't on the same page then you're out his circle.
He called coaching his part time job, the dude was able to hold sermons after games, lol... It's ridiculous. I can almost guarantee he doesn't get a head coaching job this season, unless it's out of complete desperation.
He called coaching his part time job, the dude was able to hold sermons after games, lol... It's ridiculous. I can almost guarantee he doesn't get a head coaching job this season, unless it's out of complete desperation.
Agreed. Listening to local radio the last month or so there's been a lot of crazy shit about Jackson's time here and his relationship with the front office and other coaches.
That's what I laugh when I see comments on ESPN or twitter like "do the Warriors think they're going to go undefeated now or something?!??". It wasn't even about wins I think with Jackson, shit was just a total mess behind the scenes. And I have no clue who was truly at fault, management or Jackson, but obviously the owner isn't going to suddenly sell the team because of a coach, so it's not hard to see why fired Jackson.
Now if things break down with Kerr and he gets fired after a winning season or two then we probably have a more serious problem :lol
Bam Bam Baklava
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Mark Jackson was fired for our sins.
Syphon Filter
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Everything isn't a foul...
Jag
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Don't worry about fouls then and just enjoy the superhuman feats of athleticism.
Tragicomedy
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Because of how they played against Portland? Ummmm, okay.
What we learned from those four straight OKC wins against the Spurs is that we match up very well with them. Leonard is the only player on the Spurs roster that can hang with the Thunder athleticism. OKC outpaces the Spurs up and down the court. Our numerous defensive options inside (Perk, Ibaka, Collison, and Adams) pose a challenge for the Spurs in the paint.
The Spurs rely almost exclusively on Tony Parker when playing the Thunder, and a combination of YNB and Sefolosha have been able to reduce his effectiveness this past season.
It's the playoffs, and we still need to close out the series against the Clippers before anything else. Having said that, I find the Spurs a far easier match up for OKC than either Memphis or the Clippers. I don't give much thought to history, but we swept them this season and the last time we met in the playoffs we beat them and their home court advantage. I think OKC is a very tough match up for the ageing Spurs.
There are lots of different kinds of fouls.
Here's a basic beginner's guide to basketball. Some of these concepts don't specifically apply to the NBA, but it's a pretty good general guide:
http://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/basics/basics.html
Of course, a lot of what is and isn't appropriate is up to interpretation, and NBA referees have a long history of shitty interpretation.
The biggest time I see it called, (and the reason I'm bringing it up now is because a few pages back in this thread I saw it being discussed as a viable strategy for getting free throws), is when an offensive player will drive towards the basket.
From the games I've seen, this results in a foul A LOT.
I asked my friend about it, who likes basketball, and he said something about positioning.
Like, if a player is running in a straight line towards the basket. you can step in front of him, and he has to either stop or knock you over, but you can't grab him from the side or run into him.
Is that how it works?
More or less, yes. Grabbing any player at any time is a foul (though you'll see it go un-called off the ball a lot).
The issue of Blocking (defensive foul) and Charging (offensive foul) on a drive to the basket is one of the situations that leads to the most controversy in the sport.
By the letter of the law, if the defensive player maintains position between the offensive player and the basket, and doesn't lean, twist, stick out an arm leg or do something other than stay in position to impede the offensive player, it's a charge. Otherwise, it's a block.
Given the speed of NBA players and the sophistication of defensive rotations, it can be very difficult to call in real time. There's also the added complication of the restricted area under the basket (marked with the small half circle) inside which NO charges can happen.
In addition, there are situations where an offensive player uses his shoulder or arm to push off, turning what would otherwise be a block into an offensive foul.
It's very difficult to explain, and the only way you'll begin to get a good feel of the difference is to watch a lot of basketball.