KernelPanic
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The league wants these huge hits as do the fans.
Of course if someone gets hurt they have to pretend that they care about safety.
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2015 NHL Playoffs |OT| The King Is Dead
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The league wants these huge hits as do the fans.
Of course if someone gets hurt they have to pretend that they care about safety.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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He won't get suspended but the reason is he never has. Injuries or not, the league has always protected dirty players that have a modicum of talent so they can still get the big hit and buzz from that. See the NFL and how they handle things. This is no different, Kronwall has been dirty his whole career and he's pretty much grandfathered at this point. Most of the suspensions for shitty players is a joke so it's impossible to expect good policing for others.
CrazedArabMan
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Wow, Tampa won and some of you are still way salty.
All I see is colored squares, next to other colored squares.
All I see is colored squares, next to other colored squares.
Calamari41
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It's like every other day there's a new intensely convoluted chart in here that I can't make sense of. I don't think I've ever seen the same data/chart posted twice, either. How are we supposed to know how the colored squares act over time?
Dastardly Jerks
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Kronwall has a hearing.
Kronwall'd
Kronwall'd
It's amazing what he's gotten away with over the years.
User 479360
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I'm saddened by the Isles loss. I don't hate the Caps, nor do I dislike them, but I've gotten sick of their good seasons and playoff failures. I'm sick of cheering for them, and wanted the Isles to do really well.
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Those reasons are a large part of why I wanted them to win, as well.
I didn't watch the game, though. Due to my depression, I tend to get bored of watching other teams that aren't my own. Even the Leafs and Blue Jays bore me sometimes, and my interest has waned.
SmackCrackleNPop
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Where is Kronwall on the Dustin Brown/Stoll scale?
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They showed some of Kronwall's hits on SportsCentre this morning, and he's definitely been lucky. He's pretty dirty, and definitely targets the head.
This horrible shit needs to be punished, punish the coach, punish the whole team if needed
Calamari41
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All you need to do is make a few examples out of teams and the problem will go away. Playoffs are the perfect time to do it. I've said it before, and I'll say it again and again: suspend the player and the coach for Game 7 and see how often it happens going forward.
So I mentioned something similar on an HF thread and one person was arguing that the principal point of contact was not the head; meaning, it wasn't only Kucherov' head that was hit, as his head AND chest were hit. Kronwall's body knocked Kucherov's head, that's for sure. But Kronwall's body made simultaneous contact with the rest of Kucherov's body as well. And because of that, Kronwall won't be suspended. The principal point of contact was NOT the head so this is a legal hit.
I didn't say anything in response to that - but could that really be in the NHL rulebook?
These aren't Lightning fans criticizing Kronwall...
I don't know about the rulebook but it doesn't compute... his arm/shoulder (aka the part of the body he led with) went directly into Kuch's head. Yes his head was down but that's not an excuse.
Hell, he even jumped, so at the very least it was a charging penalty. not legal no matter how you slice it.
Wont amount to anything but its a start.
Thank god I'm not the only one.
What's the difference between a light blue square, a medium blue square and a dark blue square? What about the other colours?
Calamari41
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I posted the legend right there!
gosh.. you people
*Google "CF"*
*Google "Corsi"*
*Furrow brow*
*Close window and watch the hockey guy shoot the goal instead*
I'm just messing with you zeeroid, you're alright!
CrazedArabMan
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Doesn't matter if he is suspended or not, no way Tampa is going to lose Game 7 on home ice.
Calamari41
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When are the dates going to actually be announced, do you know? It's annoying having tickets but not knowing what I have to actually cancel in order to go to the games.
Schedule for Rangers-Caps at least is expected some time today. I imagine it should be the same for the other set series.
Saturday is also the Kentucky Derby, so it's hiiiiiiiiiiiiiighly likely that Rangers-Caps Game 2 is a noon-ish start.
CrazedArabMan
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I'm aware of that, but honestly and I'll get called out and people will hate me, blah, blah, but it didn't look as bad as some other hits we have seen that were not called for a suspension, but whatever, what happens, happens.
Calamari41
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Thanks!
Around my group of hockey fans, we don't want hits like that. Again, what good is a sport when all your star players are in hospital beds. Watching replacements from the farm teams isn't what I want to see from watching hockey games.
I wouldnt worry too much. The habs will sweep either team they face. You really think the lightning will pose a threat to you guys? They shit the bed twice at home against the wings, you think theyll suddenly wake up against a far superior team next round? Nah. Lightning are the blues of the east, great regular season play but underwhelming in the playoffs.
Yeah, my buddy made a comment about that hit right after it happened, but neither of us really cared. It should've been an elbowing penalty, but I don't think it's suspension worthy. The Kronwall hit is a little different, so he'll probably get a fine. Even if he's suspended, I don't care, he's been terrible all playoffs along with DeKeyser. I kinda want both to sit next game.
SmackCrackleNPop
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In the ref's defense, he was only looking at the guy that made the hit.
garbage reffing
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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You're still going for the reverse jinx?
Lone_Prodigy
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I remember at one point late in the season the Islanders could've missed the playoffs. They're a good young competitive team so they can't be too disappointed with their results this year, but there's definitely room for improvement.
The Capitals are getting secondary scoring at the right time. Kuznetsov has more goals than Ovechkin.
The Capitals are getting secondary scoring at the right time. Kuznetsov has more goals than Ovechkin.
The last two years. Going to game seven in this series is a bit embarrassing for tampa tbh, and i say this as a wings fan. Just my opinion though.
you are underrating your own team lol
the wings are one of the best defensive teams in the league and Babcock is a playoff matchup beast. then you have Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Nyquist who can create offense at will.
then there's Mrazek making miracle saves.
not sure I would peg this all on Tampa, from an objective standpoint
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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So, one series loss? For a young team fresh off a rebuild? Not seeing the Blues comparison. Ironically, the Wings are a much better fit for 'Blues of the East'. Haven't made it past the 1st or 2nd over the last 5 playoff seasons.
Though really, the Capitals are the true Blues of the East.
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ZeroGravity
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It almost pains me to say it but Sustr's been pretty good. He was one of the better players in the playoffs last year too. Blows my mind how someone so terrible in the regular reason can elevate his game that much for the playoffs. He's the opposite of Stamkos.
Speaking of Stamkos, only 13 minutes of ice-time last night. Only forwards who had less were Morrow and Namestnikov. A lot of that was because of how many penalties they had to kill, but that was almost four minutes less than Kucherov who doesn't kill penalties either. Seems Cooper understands as well what's driving this team.
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