2016 PC Screenshot Thread of No Compromises

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OtisInf said:
Hotsampling + resolution scaling
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That explains why I think your shots are a little sharp\noisy looking. Resolution scaling goes HAM on the negative LOD bias in that game and I think it looks terrible. Which is why I opted for straight up hotsampling to massive resolutions instead. I think it looks a lot cleaner that way. Some negative LOD bias is nice, but not to the extend that DAI does it.
 
jim2point0 said:
I had no problems with it so far and I'm using the crappiest way possible to stitch them (Photoshop photomerge). What's the problem you're having?
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It's as if the camera moves up and down in freelook.

edit: yeah, upon further testing it turns out the camera in this game isn't centered on its own axis but rather constrained to the surface of a sphere or something.

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jim2point0 said:
That explains why I think your shots are a little sharp\noisy looking. Resolution scaling goes HAM on the negative LOD bias in that game and I think it looks terrible. Which is why I opted for straight up hotsampling to massive resolutions instead. I think it looks a lot cleaner that way. Some negative LOD bias is nice, but not to the extend that DAI does it.
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To each their own I think, as I think in most cases it looks great. :) I do agree in some areas they're very sharp, but in general not overly sharp like some sharpening shaders will give you IMHO. After all the world around us in real life is noisy too, surfaces have deep detail. I think these details show up great with resolution scaling in frostbite. The things which do suck with this system tho is that some textures are not scaled as much as others, so you keep some blurry textures next to very detailed ones which of course looks terrible.

All in all I like the extra detail, but I'm also a person who doesn't mind AF16 moire patterns ;). I did notice I have lumasharpen still on for normal gameplay, but with res scaling that can be switched off of course. added a toggle for that, let's see if that makes a difference but I doubt it will be noticeable.

Dragon Age:Inquisition, Reshade, mods, hattiwatti camera, SRWE:
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(edit) Did some tests: Lumasharpen filter off indeed makes a difference for the better. Res scaling 2 vs. downsampling 2x res gives more details in res scaling 2 shot, so it's hard to say no to that. I also found out the res scaling value is a float, not an int, so you can specify e.g. '1.2' to get slightly more detail but not too much. This is particularly neat, if a value of '2' is too much (for your tastes in your case, or for me in case of higher res + effects + res scaling which gives a D3D alloc error on my poor 780).

Will upload the shots to screenshot comparison later.
 
Love the Frostbite engine and think it gives the best performance/image quality in all of gaming but seeing the same assets through multiple games (Dragon Age, Star Wars, Battlefield) is getting a bit tiring.
 
Phreakuency said:
Love the Frostbite engine and think it gives the best performance/image quality in all of gaming but seeing the same assets through multiple games (Dragon Age, Star Wars, Battlefield) is getting a bit tiring.
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I do feel like I've seen this desert map a few times before. Looks very much like Dragon-Age desert meets Battlefront desert. I was a little disappointed that they chose this map for the beta, but I guess they wanted to go with something different as people might be sick of the map they've been using up til now.

I just hope they release the game with enough unique looking maps to feel fresh.

OtisInf said:
To each their own I think, as I think in most cases it looks great. :) I do agree in some areas they're very sharp, but in general not overly sharp like some sharpening shaders will give you IMHO. After all the world around us in real life is noisy too, surfaces have deep detail.
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Real life doesn't have to worry about texture aliasing, which is what a huge negative LOD bias tends to introduce. At least that's what I think I'm seeing, even in screenshots. But as you say, to each their own. I haven't tried the resolution scale in Battlefield 1, but I'll check to see if it does the same thing and do a comparison in that game as well.
 
Ok!

I took 7 different shots of the same scene and downsampled 2 of them, so all in all 9 shots to compare. I uploaded them to Abload, so you can compare them using browser tabs. The shots are taken from Dragon Age:Inquistion with reshade using the freecam, but no other tweaks (besides hud hide). Reshade does color toning here and SMAA, as well as in some shots Lumasharpen (0.6, using defaults for the rest).

I hope I have pasted all URLs with the proper descriptions!

1920x1200, Res scaling 1, LumaSharpen: https://abload.de/img/1920x1200_1_lst7qg7.png
1920x1200, Res scaling 2, LumaSharpen: https://abload.de/img/1920x1200_2_lsqsop3.png
2880x1800, Res scaling 2, LumaSharpen: https://abload.de/img/2880x1800_2_ls6ns8s.jpg
2880x1800, Res scaling 2: https://abload.de/img/2880x1800_2_nlsc9sje.jpg
2880x1800, Res scaling 1.5: https://abload.de/img/2880x1800_1.5_nlsoju0f.jpg
3840x2400, Res scaling 1, LumaSharpen, downsampled to 2880x1800 (lc3): https://abload.de/img/3840x2400_1_ls_ds_288rgpmr.jpg
3840x2400, Res scaling 1, downsampled to 2880x1800 (lc3): https://abload.de/img/3840x2400_1_nls_dsuho6x.jpg
3840x2400, Res scaling 1, LumaSharpen: https://abload.de/img/3840x2400_1_ls2kst2.jpg
3840x2400, Res scaling 1: https://abload.de/img/3840x2400_1_nlswkqro.jpg

If there's any texture interference it's in the chainmail arms/shoulders in the armor and the grass on the left. I must say I don't really see any issues with resolution scaling at 2, things are sharp and look pretty fine. Downtuned resolution scaling a bit does give some more detail but less interference (if you see it at all, I don't). Lumasharpen might overly express some sharp edges so for screenshots with resolution scaling and at a higher resolution through hotsampling it's rather overkill, but for some scenes it might still add a little extra detail.

So there you go :)
 
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