Razgriz-Specter
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So did American Horror Story's ratings drop significantly from Episode 1?
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2017-18 TV Season Cancellations: Guess which woman's late night show got cancelled
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firehawk12
Subete no aware
Why is there even an Amazon Prime arms race. Does anyone subscribe for the video service as opposed to the random deals and free shipping?
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
They're completely out of control.
They always do. The show is still doing very well for itself though and makes huge gains in L+3 and L+7.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I mean there's not any evidence they're actually resetting. The same article that talks about the need for a Game of Thrones level mass audience hit offers The Tick as an example of a concept that reflects that vision. This is all the same "Our vision is to win" claptrap every company puts out every year. Wake me up when Amazon actually green lights different stuff or shuts down
Cornballer
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Andy Greenwald and Chris Ryan talked a bit about Amazon on their latest podcast (22:00 mark) and Greenwald more or less states that when he was in meetings with Amazon, they're the only production house saying that money is a non-issue. Not that their spending over the last few years has made a ton of sense, in that plonking down a ton of cash for niche audience material attracts a very small segment, so they could certainly direct those mountains of cash towards something aimed at a broader audience. Thus, the "we want our Game of Thrones" directive.
It'll be interesting to see how much money Apple is going to start throwing around now that they're starting up.
It'll be interesting to see how much money Apple is going to start throwing around now that they're starting up.
I was wondering that the other day, too. It's difficult to untangle the services that are tied together under one umbrella, but I wonder how many people would cancel their Amazon Prime if the TV service was suddenly removed from the package. Alternatively, if Amazon Prime Video was an additional $10 on top of the Prime fee, how many people would sign up for it?
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Lol, well there you go. I have Amazon, like Woody Allen, and didn't even know it was out. lmao
It's a bonus for sure. I wouldn't buy it separately though.
Rumour was some select Amazon viewing figures leaked out a few months ago and circulated around the industry.
I never saw them myself but word was the numbers leaked were absolutely pitiful with subscribers only really 'tuning in' for Amazon's selection of films.
With Apple, Google and Facebook getting ready to join the 'SVOD Cold War' if Amazon were ever going to make a change they'd better make it now before they get left behind completely.
I believe that $100m figure is a larger overall deal with Amazon that includes commitments on future feature films but it's still a ludicrous number for what amounts to 3 hours of a Woody Allen sitcom.
They have a ton of cash (like, a ton, $250+ billion laying around), and they hired the former presidents of Sony Pictures TV (which can't have been cheap)...
I'm kind of dreading and anticipating what they'll do next.
We don't have an Amazon store in Sweden, but we have Prime video. The amount of subscribers they have is so low it's not even tracked by anyone. So no.
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Like stump said " Wake me up when Amazon actually green lights different stuff or shuts down"
LFMartins86
Member
Amazon Prime only exists on an handful of countries, they have a Video service for the rest of the world but their selection is so shit that almost no one subscribes.
Netflix's subscribers outside of the US have overtaken the US subscribers so it's no surprise that Amazon are after that money.
Dedication Through Light
Member
I think AMZN doesnt really need the video to be THAT big or take off like that since they are making money in so many other ways, netflix kind of has to have its original content be THAT good and compelling since the companies providing its other content can always take their content away whenever they want devaluing their service, and I dont netflix discs aspect(?) can make up for any losses, did their games ever take off? The majority of AMZN video only folks (people who use no other AMZN service or shopping) has to be a very minimal number.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
I know I've barely used Amazon Prime Video, I always forget about it.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Pray for an s4 of Zoo, #RenewZoo keep trending please.
those sam twists were amazing
No wonder Amazon prices have been so shitty lately. Gotta pinch pennies just to throw them down the TV toilet.
The show looks expensive and well produced from the little i seen. 2 period shows in one? That takes balls
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
It's really well done all around. Great costumes and sets. Black Sails too. Makes it hard to go back to the Netflix Marvel stuff where the production values are absurdly low.
Cornballer
Member
Tim Goodman trying to sum up last week's TV news in his THR column: Has Anyone Noticed That the TV Industry Has Lost Its Shit Lately?
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Fabulous~
Olivia De Havilland continues to be a national treasure (from her suit against FX and Ryan Murphy):
It's a good title followed by an article which spends a lot of words not saying much about anything.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Agreed. He also puts way too much stock in the Emmys - yeah, Hulu might sweep with The Handmaid's Tale next week, but so what? Amazon swept with Transparent a few years ago and it didn't Change the Game or whatever. It only mattered when House of Cards was nominated a few years ago because it signified that an internet only show could be just "as good" and on the same level as broadcast and cable shows, but now it's the new normal.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Freeform has cancelled 'Stitchers'.
Jason Frost
Member
Was that the ABC Family show with fucked up artworks and teaser trailers some years ago?
Does it end on a cliffhanger?
I guess it didn't leave anyone in stitches.
It was a drama.
I'll show myself out.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
They on my radar now, but before they are still the 700 club channel
Future Foundation
Member
I know Freeform for PLL, that horrendous Shailene Woodley show, and its endless Disney/Harry Potter marathons.
(I keep thinking they air that Sutton Foster/Hilary Duff show, but that's TV Land.)
AngmarsKing701
Member
If this post read "Stitchers has cancelled 'Freeform'." I would have just as much an idea of what this means.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
So I guess this is an "Amazon" show that's probably not long for the world, but I just heard about this Phillip K Dick anthology series that's coming soon. Are we at the point where we've literally adapted every single story that the man has written? lol
Yeah I barely watch it as well. Recently I've watched it a little bit more than I have recently (The Tick is pretty fun) but for the most part I barely even think about my Amazon Prime video subscription.
Zoe
Member
You mean the Harry Potter channel?
Damn, actually liked this show. Sucks that it ended on a massive cliffhanger though >_<
TDLink
Member
Channel 4 (in the UK) and Sony are the people funding and producing it. Amazon is just distributing in North America.
Good what it's worth the execs I saw it with thought it was one of the best shows this year by miles (and I agree).
Biggest problem it has is if it will sell internationally.
Well, I'm aware.
The OT will be going up today or tomorrow, was waiting for reviews. Bu tyou might enjoy this article which is going to be linked in it:
The endless adaptability of Philip K Dick
And as has already been pointed out, it is a Channel 4 show that needed an American partner. Originally it was going to be AMC.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Herp.
Also, this seems to happen to all Dick adaptations and I wonder why people even bother adapting the stories in the first place if they're just going to share thematic similarities.
I gave it a good long chance in the first season but I just didn't care about it.
I liked The Bold Type this summer.
The Electric Dreams OT ended up going up today.
If someone enjoys and is inspired by the themes of a book, they should be free to adapt it as they see fit. Psycho is a loose adaptation and it's great, should Hitchcock not have bothered with it unless he followed the mediocre book slavishly?
Because they are adaptations?They're not literal literary translations.
If someone enjoys and is inspired by the themes of a book, they should be free to adapt it as they see fit. Psycho is a loose adaptation and it's great, should Hitchcock not have bothered with it unless he followed the mediocre book slavishly?
The Bold Type is pretty good. Stitchers was just... meh.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Sure, of course.
Going by that Moore quote, it sounds like they didn't use anything of the original story at all outside of the "heart", whatever that might mean. Artists are inspired by other artists all the time and use that inspiration to create original works - such as Seth MacFarlane and Orville (lol) - so I wonder what you gain by using Dick's name if your story is basically unrecognizable from the original work, particularly when I don't think Dick's name has any real cache in 2017.
anyone check out American Vandal yet? the good reviews are surprising.
Finished Lucifer season 2, I agree with what that dude said some weeks ago, dumb procedural, but its very easy to watch, and the lead is fucking charismatic as shit. I dont mind that show at all.
Finished Lucifer season 2, I agree with what that dude said some weeks ago, dumb procedural, but its very easy to watch, and the lead is fucking charismatic as shit. I dont mind that show at all.
Norwegian Rudo
Member
Stitchers was an odd one in that I enjoyed their procedural episodes, but when they did mythology episodes they were just awful.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah there's a review thread and yeah it's amazing. It's more than just a parody of the format, which is probably what elevates it. John Hughes meets Sarah Keonig.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I absolutely despise when people say this, but you might want to stick with it until Season 2. The show got much tighter and focused after Season 1. Black Sails is the same way, the real show starts in Season 2.
I've seen enough shows where I wasn't a fan of the first season but ended up enjoying the show as a whole that I'm willing to give a show a shot if people say it improves.
It's been so long since I've seen it that I can't actually recall why it wasn't grabbing me, though. I might've just disliked the characters?
And there's me thinking the first season of H&CF is still the best, even though I love all the seasons since too. But then I think it helps if your an 80s kid too, the first season being more nerdy than the rest.