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2017 iPhone - iPhone 4-like design, 5.8-Inch AMOLED screen, Wireless Charging

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This would help explain Apple launching its own new-phone-every-year plan.

I'm gonna switch from iPhone 6 to whichever 7 Plus has the big camera upgrade, probably, but this is plenty of incentive for me to be ready to jump ship a year later.
 

Owari

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Sounds like the 6S is getting a total redesign, and the 6 "pro" is the ugly headphone-free leak we saw.
Interesting.
 
I always thought apple should get rid of the idea of cycles and just put whatever is ready into the phone. If all the good stuff ain't ready this year don't wait till 2018. Just put it all in next year. They already do it with their other products.

With that said. We will see.
 

strata8

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Yeah that's what I mean. My S5 has that on the top due to the bars. It stands out when watching videos.

I had the same on an AMOLED phone I used for 3 years, web browser nav bar got burnt into the screen. That's part of the reason why I didn't go for an S7 as I'm planning on keeping my next phone for 3-4 years as well.
 
I had the same on an AMOLED phone I used for 3 years, web browser nav bar got burnt into the screen. That's part of the reason why I didn't go for an S7 as I'm planning on keeping my next phone for 3-4 years as well.

Yeah... AMOLED can look so gorgeous but the rainbowing and burn-in still bother me, especially on Androids that don't have physical buttons where you have the bottom navigation bar burn in. The iPhone's LCD is almost as good anyway, without those issues. If they were higher-res they would be close to perfect.
 

RootCause

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Yeah... AMOLED can look so gorgeous but the rainbowing and burn-in still bother me, especially on Androids that don't have physical buttons where you have the bottom navigation bar burn in. The iPhone's LCD is almost as good anyway, without those issues. If they were higher-res they would be close to perfect.
Man I would be so disappointed if they switch. :(
 
Don't worry, AMOLED is quite good now and most issues are in the past. I will welcome this switch.

I got a Samsung S7 Edge and I would switch immediately back to iPhone. Or maybe sooner. Can't be living this green bubble life
 

DOWN

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Don't worry, AMOLED is quite good now and most issues are in the past. I will welcome this switch.

I got a Samsung S7 Edge and I would switch immediately back to iPhone. Or maybe sooner. Can't be living this green bubble life
Green bubble? What does that mean?
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
So it's an Apple iPhone S6 Edge?
 

nib95

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Yeah... AMOLED can look so gorgeous but the rainbowing and burn-in still bother me, especially on Androids that don't have physical buttons where you have the bottom navigation bar burn in. The iPhone's LCD is almost as good anyway, without those issues. If they were higher-res they would be close to perfect.

There is no more or less of a burn in issue with AMOLED now than there is with LCD's, including compared to iPhone screens (which also suffer from this issue from time to time, as do the screens on other Apple LCD products like their Macbook Pro Retina screens, I know this full well because my panel was replaced for the issue). Likewise with rainbowing.

And no the iPhone screen is not almost as good. It's not even in the same league, unless considerably worse black levels and contrast, worse brightness, energy efficiency, viewing angles, colour accuracy, white balance, ambient contrast, graduation, dynamic range, pixel density etc are all supposed to somehow magically count as positives instead of negatives. There are certain areas that LCD will never be able to match AMOLED in, such as contrast and black levels, which as many videophiles will tell you, are among the most important metrics of a high quality display, as they affect everything else from a visual perspective.

Man I would be so disappointed if they switch. :(

You would be disappointed if they switched to display tech that is superior to their current display tech in pretty much every single metric? I mean, really?
 

Guess Who

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Switching to AMOLED, say, 3-4 years ago would've been a bad move because AMOLEDs of that era still had a ton of problems, but good AMOLEDs these days are pretty much entirely better than LCDs. It'd be crazy for Apple not to go AMOLED soon.
 
There is no more or less of a burn in issue with AMOLED now than there is with LCD's, including compared to iPhone screens (which also suffer from this issue from time to time, as do the screens on other Apple LCD products like their Macbook Pro Retina screens, I know this full well because my panel was replaced for the issue). Likewise with rainbowing.

And no the iPhone screen is not almost as good. It's not even in the same league, unless considerably worse black levels and contrast, worse brightness, energy efficiency, viewing angles, colour accuracy, white balance, ambient contrast, graduation, dynamic range etc are all supposed to somehow magically count as positives instead of negatives.



You would be disappointed if they switched to display tech that is superior to their current display tech in pretty much every single metric? I mean, really?

LCD can't have burn in because of how it works. What you most likely experienced is called image retention which is temporary. Burn in is permanent on amoled and plasma displays because of how each pixel emites light. There is no way to fix this unless a software solution is introduced where it makes sure that every pixel is refreshed to a different position after a certain amount of time.

Technology progress with amoled prolongs the period before a user starts noticing the issue, but after a given time, it will happen with static ui elements. I doubt my nexus 6p will be burn in free a year from now even when it's using a fairly recent panel from Samsung.
 

nib95

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LCD can't have burn in because of how it works. What you most likely experienced is called image retention which is temporary. Burn in is permanent on amoled and plasma displays because of how each pixel emites light. There is no way to fix this unless a software solution is introduced where it makes sure that every pixel is refreshed to a different position after a certain amount of time.

Technology progress with amoled prolongs the period before a user starts noticing the issue, but after a given time, it will happen with static ui elements. I doubt my nexus 6p will be burn in free a year from now even when it's using a fairly recent panel from Samsung.

There isn't screen burn on newer Samsung AMOLED's, except in extreme or defective situations, and this is also relevant to LCD/IPS panels too, including iPhone panels. A quick googling will show you examples of this.

Iphone 6 Screen Burn

The lines that some people see in certain S6's are not actually burn in related, but an adhesive defect issue that can sometimes occur during screen assembly.

There are certain icons that stay on AMOLED mobile screens permanently in the same position, like the % character by the battery icon for example, and in none of my devices is there any burn in on the AMOLED panel from that character/icon or anything else, despite massive bouts of prolonged use over the period of a year or more.

It's possible that devices such as the Nexus 6P use a lower grade of AMOLED tech (it is less colour and white balance accurate as well after all), but I certainly haven't read about any such widespread or remotely common issues with that device either.

Regarding image retention, again this is something I haven't experienced in any of my AMOLED devices for a good few years now. My Macbook Pro Retina with an LG LCD IPS panel however, suffered from it severely. To the point where I'd get image retention after just 20-40+ seconds of a static image. Thankfully after some bickering and back and forth, Apple decided to replace mine for me and I no longer suffer from this issue. But it was certainly a widespread one.

Don't worry, AMOLED is quite good now and most issues are in the past. I will welcome this switch.

I got a Samsung S7 Edge and I would switch immediately back to iPhone. Or maybe sooner. Can't be living this green bubble life

Why would you need to worry about green bubbles if you're an S7 Edge user? Green bubbles only affect you if you're an iPhone user messaging a non iMessage or iPhone user. With Android devices you can change the message colours and backgrounds to whatever you want.
 
Dammet! I had all these plans to go from 5s to 7 plus. But now? I might as well - I don't even know if I should wait or not.

If it turns out to be true then I would wait, since the 5S is a pretty fast phone I think just like 2x less than 6S in terms of CPU performance. I know that besides speed the 5S is dated, but still, I have a 4S right now and was planning on getting the 7, but now I think I might get a 5S and then wait until this 2017 iphone comes out, but that's only of these rumors start to boil more.
 
Why would you need to worry about green bubbles if you're an S7 Edge user? Green bubbles only affect you if you're an iPhone user messaging a non iMessage or iPhone user. With Android devices you can change the message colours and backgrounds to whatever you want.
but other people will see him as a green bubble.
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
AMOLED or not, need that painted on iPhone look to the screen.
 
I'm kidding about the green bubble being a concern, lol.

The contrast ratio for the 6/6s is pretty good compared to older Lcd Tech but definitely a step below true Super AMOLED blacks.

I'm not sure Apple should curve the screen, hopefully not like the S7 edge where it's a little distracting watching video with light reflecting off where it curves. iPhones do this too but it's outside of the screen area. Only complaint really about the edge displays.
 

dc89

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I'm sure my 6 Plus will see me through until then.

iirc 2017 will be the 10th anniversary of iPhone, so I hope they do something special with the announcement.

im a little shocked about this

You'll get one Bla. You're going even deeper. You're going full BlApple.
 
I always thought the next iPhone should have a glass or tough ceramic back following where the antenna lines are, so it is kinda the same shape and dimensions. I think they should also integrate the touch id into the screen, so the front and back look almost similar.

Imaging this concept but with the curved edges of the 6 and 6S:

iPhone-7-render-Ivo-Maric-2015-1.jpg
 

curls

Wake up Sheeple, your boring insistence that Obama is not a lizardman from Atlantis is wearing on my patience 💤
This would help explain Apple launching its own new-phone-every-year plan.

Another disposable item.
These things should have a lifespan of 5 years really. Now it could be reduced to 1 year.

Nuts.
 

LeleSocho

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Regarding AMOLED:
AMOLED is a bad choice if you like your phone's screen to last because they are way less reliable than LCD, it's a technology that can work if you are the type of person that changes phone every 1-2 years but aside that you will have the known problems.
I love me some insane black levels (i have a Pioneer Kuro at home) but i would gladly have worse contrast if it meant having the screen not having IR and burn-in for more than a couple of years.

True, LCDs might have some (not all) of the problems of AMOLED but they are so so rare that really you only have to go pick a specific product that uses that specific batch of screens while on the AMOLED side you have to do the same kind research to find a screen that is less prone (aka not completely free) to the problems.


I, for one, will be sure to buy the last LCD iPhone Apple decides to make and wait a breakthrough in OLED tech to switch... that or until the phone fall apart.
 

Futureman

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Lots of chumps in here IMO. We really don't know anything but a few rumors about the 2016 iPhone. Almost every tech website is calling Samsung the design leader now. No way Ive is going to release the same phone 3 years in a row just without antenna bands. All we really know is the shape is going to be similar which isn't a surprise.
 

AngryMoth

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goddamit, don't know if my 5S will last another year...

Maybe I should get an SE since they're cheap then sell it and upgrade to this next year
 

spekkeh

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Makes sense, Samsung caught up with them in numbering, can't have your iPhone numbering drive home that you're lagging behind in innovation. (next up, iphone 360 and iPhone One).

On a more serious note, Apple reportedly had set up a pretty large VR team, so amoled is going to be a given if they want to have any kind of stake in the hype.
 
Apple should remove the home button soon and just use force touch to have a digital button.
In another year or two force touch will be even more accurate, and the lack of home button will provide for more screen real estate for things such as games and video.
 

giga

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praise the lord for the return of glass backs so we don't have to deal with these horrid antenna lines anymore. ceramic would be cool too. just please no more metal.
 
With a much better OS, and app selection. So no, not really. 😇

Right.......keep telling yourself that

That is crazy. AMOLED sucks, plain and simple.

Now this is a first

Apple should remove the home button soon and just use force touch to have a digital button.
In another year or two force touch will be even more accurate, and the lack of home button will provide for more screen real estate for things such as games and video.

Fingerprint scanner......
 
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