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[reKon]

That's true. Actually most iPhones outperform their competitors. Apple tends to make better decisions, like not going overboard with resolution(pushing 1080P instead of wasting performance on 1440P) until the hardware is more than capable. That coupled with having a better optimized OS.

1) The hardware is perfectly capable. Any lag when using 1440p screens is the result of OEM and carrier bloat. My S7 runs smooth as shit and I have the worse performing S820 version.

2) They aren't wasting performance. This high res screen is primarily for VR, so it's necessary. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you had no idea because I didn't as well when I critizied that high resolution.


Also, LMAO to all those are willingly being ignorant about AMOLED screen tech on phones today. It's like you have your fingers you ears while screamingly "LALALALA!" It's pretty embarrassing.

 

[WillyFive]

"Best screen on a smartphone" http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-review

Stop feeding bullshit as facts.

I've never had a Samsung Galaxy S7, so I can't comment on it. But historically, AMOLED's have looked worse and get burn-in really quickly (for me as quickly as six months or so, but I've heard it happening within half that).

All of this is anecdotal, it can't be fact because it's all subjective. Just because you think AMOLED is better in some way, that's your right to think that but it's not some universal fact.

 

[LeleSocho]

Its seem like people are hating on AMOLED just because samsung did it first.

Yeah i hate AMOLED and Samsung so much that at the time i decided that my first smartphone had to be a Galaxy S2 despite its lower resolution lol

My "hate" (trust me no one else wants AM/OLED to be god tier as i want it) comes from personal experience are studies i've done.

 

[GameAddict411]

There isn't screen burn on newer Samsung AMOLED's, except in extreme or defective situations, and this is also relevant to LCD/IPS panels too, including iPhone panels. A quick googling will show you examples of this.

Iphone 6 Screen Burn

The lines that some people see in certain S6's are not actually burn in related, but an adhesive defect issue that can sometimes occur during screen assembly.

There are certain icons that stay on AMOLED mobile screens permanently in the same position, like the % character by the battery icon for example, and in none of my devices is there any burn in on the AMOLED panel from that character/icon or anything else, despite massive bouts of prolonged use over the period of a year or more.

It's possible that devices such as the Nexus 6P use a lower grade of AMOLED tech (it is less colour and white balance accurate as well after all), but I certainly haven't read about any such widespread or remotely common issues with that device either.

Regarding image retention, again this is something I haven't experienced in any of my AMOLED devices for a good few years now. My Macbook Pro Retina with an LG LCD IPS panel however, suffered from it severely. To the point where I'd get image retention after just 20-40+ seconds of a static image. Thankfully after some bickering and back and forth, Apple decided to replace mine for me and I no longer suffer from this issue. But it was certainly a widespread one.



Why would you need to worry about green bubbles if you're an S7 Edge user? Green bubbles only affect you if you're an iPhone user messaging a non iMessage or iPhone user. With Android devices you can change the message colours and backgrounds to whatever you want.

Color accuracy has nothing to do with the grade of AMOLED that Google used for the nexus 6p. The nexus 6p can be very accurate if sRGB is enabled in the setting menu(similar to basic mode on Samsung devices). The panel is identical to the one used on the note 4 and the note 5, so it's using the latest tech. So far after 3+ months of use I haven't noticed anything and even downloaded a white background to check for burn-in. I know my friend's LG smart watch had burn-in a week after buying.

 

[DOWN]

Let's not act surprised that people recall AMOLED looking worse than LCD for the majority of its life on the market. It's only in the last few model cycles that the flagship phones have had pleasant AMOLED displays instead of the extreme blue tinted grainy mess that they rolled with in the mass market.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

OLED is obv better than not. Even Jony Ive has admitted as much. The only reason Apple hasn't used them yet is simply because there isn't a company in the world that can can make them enough for the amount they sell. Even with samsung/LG both manufacturing them for apple it probably isn't enough. Hence why they're all investing billions in beefing up their factories. They all want that apple contract.

I'm currently using an S6 and I've never had screen burn in ever. Not a TON better than iphone 6/6s display but still undeniably better.

More importantly for apple, OLED will allow them to make a thinner phone/play with bezels in a way LCD does not.

 

[Draper]

I await awesome black levels, because the 6s' is pretty shitty.

 

[Red]

I've never had a Samsung Galaxy S7, so I can't comment on it. But historically, AMOLED's have looked worse and get burn-in really quickly (for me as quickly as six months or so, but I've heard it happening within half that).

All of this is anecdotal, it can't be fact because it's all subjective. Just because you think AMOLED is better in some way, that's your right to think that but it's not some universal fact.

Color accuracy, gamut, resolution, brightness, black levels, contrast, these are all things that can be objectively measured. They aren't anecdotal.

 

[……forgetit]

I've never had a Samsung Galaxy S7, so I can't comment on it. But historically, AMOLED's have looked worse and get burn-in really quickly (for me as quickly as six months or so, but I've heard it happening within half that).

All of this is anecdotal, it can't be fact because it's all subjective. Just because you think AMOLED is better in some way, that's your right to think that but it's not some universal fact.

When was the last time you used an amoled phone? They've gone a long way.

 

[badcrumble]

OLED is obv better than not. Even Jony Ive has admitted as much. The only reason Apple hasn't used them yet is simply because there isn't a company in the world that can can make them enough for the amount they sell. Even with samsung/LG both manufacturing them for apple it probably isn't enough. Hence why they're all investing billions in beefing up their factories. They all want that apple contract.

I'm currently using an S6 and I've never had screen burn in ever. Not a TON better than iphone 6/6s display but still undeniably better.

More importantly for apple, OLED will allow them to make a thinner phone/play with bezels in a way LCD does not.

This is pretty much where things stand now. Apple's gonna go with AMOLED when it's sufficiently scalable at the right quality level (and they require absolutely insane scale for the numbers they do), and it seems that we're about to get there. It'll probably open the door to a lot of excellent design improvements across the board when it finally happens.

 

[longdi]

I love my QHD AMOLED Photo S7 Edge. Very bright, very nice aRGB colours, surfing GAF Dark is a godsend!

However because it uses some form of pentile pixel arrangement, text (if you look closely) are more jagged compared to my IPS RGB Z2. IPS rendering text > pentile AMOLED. Here is hoping Apple chooses a true RGB AMOLED screen.

Furthermore, i saw Note5 display sets having image retention. AMOLED burn-in is still a real thing imo.

 

[SmackCrackleNPop]

For those saying they've witnessed image retention on a recent phone, what exactly was burned in? I know on the S7 I have an always on display with a clock that moves around frequently so that it doesn't get it. I think the way I use a phone, it's doubtful I can get an image to burn in.

 

[badcrumble]

I love my QHD AMOLED Photo S7 Edge. Very bright, very nice aRGB colours, surfing GAF Dark is a godsend!

However because it uses some form of pentile pixel arrangement, text (if you look closely) are more jagged compared to my IPS RGB Z2. IPS rendering text > pentile AMOLED. Here is hoping Apple chooses a true RGB AMOLED screen.

Furthermore, i saw Note5 display sets having image retention. AMOLED burn-in is still a real thing imo.

Oh yeah, pentile is garbage. I don't think Apple would go with that.

 

[The Beard]

Smartphone screens should be LCD, unless they can find a way to completely get rid of burn-in. There are just too many static images. There's always a stupid light grey banner at the top of Safari that would for sure be burnt into my 6+ if it had an Amoled screen.

I just like not having to think about it. My Panasonic VT60 plasma has horrible image retention despite people claiming that "Plasma's have come a long way. Image retention and burn in are pretty much a thing of the past." I always have to be aware of what's on the screen. If a solid white channel logo is on the screen for 2+ hours, I'll be seeing its ghost for the next 2 or 3 days. It's a pain in the ass.

 

[Simply Sami]

Find this report to be bollocks.

Apple never change the design of the S model which is what is going to come out in 2017. They change what is inside and add some new feature like force touch, finger print and Siri in past years.

 

[SmackCrackleNPop]

7S, S is for screen

 

[n0razi]

I've heard that. Any particular company that sets them accurately?

Samsungs is almost perfect, you just need to select "Basic" from the settings menu as opposed to "Dynamic" which is ships with.

For those saying they've witnessed image retention on a recent phone, what exactly was burned in? I know on the S7 I have an always on display with a clock that moves around frequently so that it doesn't get it. I think the way I use a phone, it's doubtful I can get an image to burn in.

I havent seen it at all on my S6 but I have seen it on my Galaxy Nexus and S4 back in the day. I am assuming the newer panels are better so anything coming out in the future shouldnt have any issues. And yes, the AMOLED on my S6 is miles better than the one I had on the S4 that was better than the one on the Galaxy Nexus.

 

[nib95]

In black levels maybe; but every phone with an AMOLED I've had I wished it was an LCD instead.

I've never had a Samsung Galaxy S7, so I can't comment on it. But historically, AMOLED's have looked worse and get burn-in really quickly (for me as quickly as six months or so, but I've heard it happening within half that).

All of this is anecdotal, it can't be fact because it's all subjective. Just because you think AMOLED is better in some way, that's your right to think that but it's not some universal fact.

So basically you haven't used an AMOLED device in a good few years. At least do some research before forming what are otherwise misinformed opinions. And actually it is a universal fact, based on scientific measurements of all the related display metrics.

Oh yeah, pentile is garbage. I don't think Apple would go with that.

I doubt Apple would use pentile if they went AMOLED. Samsung hasn't for a few years now, opting for a new diamond sub pixel matrix which is up to three times sharper to the eye. Also the new Sony VR headset actually uses an RGB based AMOLED panel.

 

[Jazzy Network]

AMOLED looks better, but LCD is more reliable I guess is the argument? I'm assuming AMOLED is also more battery efficient because of the individual pixels. I honestly can't tell the difference by glance what would be AMOLED or LCD. I prefer AMOLED on things like Moto screens for their Moto Display and stuff like that.

 

[Xun]

No jack, no sale.

Good to hear the design will be an improvement though.

 

[0ptimusPayne]

They need to go back to a design like the 5/5s and make the glass still have that slight tapered curve to it like 6/6s. I love the 5's design, because the phone was damn easy to hold with its edged design. Too many phones nowadays are going for this crazy curvy design, which makes it feel like you're holding a bar of soap.

 

[LeleSocho]

AMOLED looks better, but LCD is more reliable I guess is the argument? I'm assuming AMOLED is also more battery efficient because of the individual pixels. I honestly can't tell the difference by glance what would be AMOLED or LCD. I prefer AMOLED on things like Moto screens for their Moto Display and stuff like that.

Sincerely i'm not up to date regarding efficiency but up until 2-3 years ago AMOLED was more efficient than LCD only if what was displayed was black/dark and viceversa, i don't know if things have changed with times on this subject.
At the moment iOS UI is almost all white with tons of bright and vivid colors so if the situation is and remains the same battery drain from the screen would be worse than today's.

 

[Guess Who]

At the moment iOS UI is almost all white with tons of bright and vivid colors so if the situation is and remains the same battery drain from the screen would be worse than today's.

iOS has needed a dark mode for years, I really hope AMOLED is the final push to make them do it.

I remember reading a Jony Ive interview a while back, and he talked about the OLED on the Apple Watch and how it only ever really turns on the parts of the screen needed to show the watchface, with the rest left black. He grabbed an iPhone and turned on the display and talked about how he thought having the entire display turned on all the time seemed "old" to him now.

 

[Tekniqs]

With a much better OS, and app selection. So no, not really. 😇

lol

 

[DaleinCalgary]

All the rumors for the new phones make me think my 6s+ is going to last me at least 3 years.

 

[Brofist]

I liked the 4 design back when it came out, but those of you handicapping yourselves with 6 year old phones for the sake of design are crazy.

 

[Sid]

iPhone 10th anniversary edition?

 

[Vyer]

iPhone already has 'curved' glass. I doubt they'd go for the edge display gimmick.

Either way I do look forward to oled.

 

[giga]

All the rumors for the new phones make me think my 6s+ is going to last me at least 3 years.

The 2GB in the 6S and Air 2 will make both last years.

 

[Rushersauce]

Jeeez, people in this thread.... Years ago amoled was bad, so it must still be bad... What kind of argument is that?

 

[The Real Abed]

Jeeez, people in this thread.... Years ago amoled was bad, so it must still be bad... What kind of argument is that?

Computers were slow as shit 30 years ago. Surely they must still be super slow.

 

[The Faceless Master]

S6 or S7?

They are basically a less tasteful iPhone 4 anyway ��

either/or

 

[giga]

ugliest round rects i've ever seen tbh

 

[Ninja Scooter]

the 4 was the greatest phone design of all time. OF ALL TIMES! I look forward to getting a 7S if this is true.

 

[Astral Dog]

Wireless..charging?
How does that work? O.O

 

[GameAddict411]

I have been testing out my Nexus 6P for burn-in since the topic is brought up here. I tried all of the RGB colors and I didn't notice anything. But when I displayed a grey background, I saw some form of image retention. It disappeared relatively quickly. I don't think burn-in will be an issue if you don't put the brightness way high. I also downloaded an app called GMD immersion which can hide the the notification and navigation bar when not in use. Now I am happy to know that there won't be anything static on my display just in case if it happens in the future. I want to keep this phone for a couple of years still .

 

[Red]

Wireless..charging?
How does that work? O.O

Welcome to 2012.

 

[emag]

Wireless..charging?
How does that work? O.O

The charging plate is wired, with an "inductive" surface. The back of the phone has a matching receiving surface. Place phone on charger. Electricity is transmitted from charger to phone without wires connecting the two.

Jeeez, people in this thread.... Years ago amoled was bad, so it must still be bad... What kind of argument is that?

Two years ago AMOLEDs were garbage and yet the same people pushing them now were claiming that they were great then. It may be that the S6/S7 screens don't suffer from the flaws of the S4 and before, but broken trust is not earned back so quickly.

 

[The Real Abed]

either/or

The only thing I envy about all those big Android phones is the super thin bezels. If Apple made their Plus model look like that, it'd be awesome. The thick bezels make the screen on the Plus look smaller and make the phone feel overall bulkier. I want edge to edge screens on the 7 and beyond. Or nearly edge to edge at least. We don't really need side bezels on the phones.

 

[emag]

The only thing I envy about all those big Android phones is the super thin bezels. If Apple made their Plus model look like that, it'd be awesome. The thick bezels make the screen on the Plus look smaller and make the phone feel overall bulkier. I want edge to edge screens on the 7 and beyond. Or nearly edge to edge at least. We don't really need side bezels on the phones.

Without side bezels you wind up with finger/palm detection issues, like those that plague the S7 Edge: http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...of-display-fix-seemingly-underway-outside-us/

 

[dark10x]

Why the f would they take on AMOLED when it's way less color accurate and looks worse. iPhone has touted one of the most accurate displays in phones ever since the 5

Accuracy in an LCD always seemed like an odd claim since they cannot display black. OLED technology is vastly superior and it can absolutely display accurate colors when tuned properly. I would love to eliminate LCDs from my life completely.

 

[nib95]

Two years ago AMOLEDs were garbage and yet the same people pushing them now were claiming that they were great then. It may be that the S6/S7 screens don't suffer from the flaws of the S4 and before, but broken trust is not earned back so quickly.

The S4 still had an excellent display, and preferences between it and LCD's at the time were still very much a subjective preference on whether you preferred contrast and black levels, or something slightly brighter and more colour accurate.

The S5 display however, in April 2014, is where AMOLED really started making strides, and greatly improving it's previously non favourable metrics like colour accuracy and brightness. In fact, at the time it was the most colour accurate mobile display DisplayMate had tested.

DisplayMate | Samsung Galaxy S5 Display Technology Shoot-Out

 

[The Maverick]

I always thought the next iPhone should have a glass or tough ceramic back following where the antenna lines are, so it is kinda the same shape and dimensions. I think they should also integrate the touch id into the screen, so the front and back look almost similar.

Imaging this concept but with the curved edges of the 6 and 6S:

This design would make me switch to Apple. Damn.

 

[eyeball_kid]

I'm calling BS on this 2017 rumor. Apple has always followed a tick-tock update strategy with their phones. New number = new hardware design. "s" revision = new wow tech (Touch ID, 3D Touch, etc). They wouldn't release a brand-new case design during the 7s period, so either this rumor is totally false, or we'll either see some of these changes this year, on in 2018.

 

[badcrumble]

I'm calling BS on this 2017 rumor. Apple has always followed a tick-tock update strategy with their phones. New number = new hardware design. "s" revision = new wow tech (Touch ID, 3D Touch, etc). They wouldn't release a brand-new case design during the 7s period, so either this rumor is totally false, or we'll either see some of these changes this year, on in 2018.

It'd break precedent and signify a strategy shift, yes. That might say more about the iPhone 7 than about the iPhone 7S. It's possible that some of the design or technology changes they want for the next generation can't be made in time for 2016 so they're gonna go tick-tock-tock and make for a bigger 2017 update.

 

[sear]

Accuracy in an LCD always seemed like an odd claim since they cannot display black. OLED technology is vastly superior and it can absolutely display accurate colors when tuned properly. I would love to eliminate LCDs from my life completely.

Yep. Manufacturers pump up the saturation like crazy to make their devices stand out on store shelves. But strictly speaking there is nothing stopping an AMOLED from being as/more accurate than any other display.

Unfortunate that burn-in is still an issue.

 

[The Real Abed]

Without side bezels you wind up with finger/palm detection issues, like those that plague the S7 Edge: http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...of-display-fix-seemingly-underway-outside-us/

it can still have a slight bezel. Anything thinner than what the Plus has now would be better.

Also, iOS already has algorithms to ignore accidental edge touching anyway.

When I hold my phone, my fingers don't really overlap onto the screen edges much at all. I'm sure they could do it right.

 

[Azerare]

I enjoyed my 4S before i switched to the S6Edge. I'm not a fan of the lack of a headphone jack though. I hate dealing with proprietary parts.

 

[badcrumble]

If the new September iPhone is gonna be another 'tock' generation, I wonder if that means it'll have the attending greater hardware power increase and new exclusive feature of an S phone.

 

[etta]

Hmmmm, I was gonna upgrade my iPhone 6 this year.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
If iPhone 7 will not feature a redesign, and instead will continue using the 6/6S design, then it might prove that they are holding off until 2017 for the AMOLED redesign, in which case I'll definitely wait. Or maybe buy a cheap Nexus to hold me off.