2017 PC Screenshot Thread

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the positive support.
I find these negative comments stressful.
Seems to me a few bad apples spoiling the barrel.
I do find it challenging to deal with this kind of behaviour, but I feel it best to confront it when encountered.

Parsnip, Jim, Morgan Stark I notice they post a lot. They also seem to often back each other up. Most people on here seem to get it, yet these three, I don't know, something seems odd..
Not sure if its a form of autism (unconscious) or simply narcissism (conscious).
Jim i believe banned himself from here for inciting similar conflicts recently.

I genuinely enjoy constructive criticism, or just plain criticism if delivered with humour. Their comments seem personal.

I like this site as a forum to display and share this hobby, do we just have to accept a teenage level of emotional awareness from some of the members?

Should we call them out on this bs each time?
 
Less talk, more screenies!

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Thanks guys, I really appreciate the positive support.
I find these negative comments stressful.
Seems to me a few bad apples spoiling the barrel.
I do find it challenging to deal with this kind of behaviour, but I feel it best to confront it when encountered.

Parsnip, Jim, Morgan Stark I notice they post a lot. They also seem to often back each other up. Most people on here seem to get it, yet these three, I don't know, something seems odd..
Not sure if its a form of autism (unconscious) or simply narcissism (conscious).
Jim i believe banned himself from here for inciting similar conflicts recently.

I genuinely enjoy constructive criticism, or just plain criticism if delivered with humour. Their comments seem personal.

I like this site as a forum to display and share this hobby, do we just have to accept a teenage level of emotional awareness from some of the members?

Should we call them out on this bs each time?
All three users are frequent contributors to GAF, and Jim specifically has contributed significantly to these screenshot threads over the years. I realize that your feelings are hurt, but these people are not "bad apples." Opinionated sure, but welcome to the internet.

The way you are painting the situation makes it seem like they harassed you, when in fact all they did was point out that the low quality textures in The Witcher 3 don't look all that great up close. And quite frankly, they're right, but the important thing to remember is: who cares? Acknowledge what they are saying, agree or disagree, and then either change what kind of screenshots you post or don't. Many people in this thread have gotten way worse flak than you did on the last page - there was a period of time when Nick just posted very similar shots of Far Cry 3's landscape over and over again, there was a time when Otis was putting watermarks on his shots, etc etc. Bottom line is, as long as it meets the criteria in Stallion's OP, you're allowed to post whatever you personally think looks good, and everyone is going to just have to deal with it. At the end of the day, no one should be losing sleeping over a thread of videogame screenshots on an internet forum.

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Anyway, screenshots:
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All three users are frequent contributors to GAF, and Jim specifically has contributed significantly to these screenshot threads over the years. I realize that your feelings are hurt, but these people are not "bad apples." Opinionated sure, but welcome to the internet.

The way you are painting the situation makes it seem like they harassed you, when in fact all they did was point out that the low quality textures in The Witcher 3 don't look all that great up close. And quite frankly, they're right, but the important thing to remember is: who cares? Acknowledge what they are saying, agree or disagree, and then either change what kind of screenshots you post or don't. Many people in this thread have gotten way worse flak than you did on the last page - there was a period of time when Nick just posted very similar shots of Far Cry 3's landscape over and over again, there was a time when Otis was putting watermarks on his shots, etc etc. Bottom line is, as long as it meets the criteria in Stallion's OP, you're allowed to post whatever you personally think looks good, and everyone is going to just have to deal with it. At the end of the day, no one should be losing sleeping over a thread of videogame screenshots on an internet forum.

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Anyway, screenshots:
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seeing you talked about rules..have you noticed your screenshots are really compressed?(i swear im not trying to be an asshole :P)
 
Really? For whatever reason I thought they preserved a high quality uncompressed version when you upload your .bmp or .png. Huh, my mistake.

Ehh, they do, when you upload a PNG is will remain a PNG. An example:

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I prefer to use JPGs though as large PNGs are too... large.
 
Ehh, they do, when you upload a PNG is will remain a PNG.
I prefer to use JPGs though as large PNGs are too... large.
Ah, I didn't realize it but I've been uploading .bmp images which don't seem to get preserved by Flickr. Weird, because ReShade used to export to .png's. Hmm I guess maybe the default file format was changed to .bmp in a recent ReShade version, and I just never noticed.
 
For shadows, to get them correctly blurry, you need to render to a really high-res buffer and then do expensive sampling on top of that to make the right parts blurry to the correct degree again.

It's why the really high-end shadow settings (e.g. PCSS, or even more accurate HFTS) are often incredibly expensive.

Yeah, that's what I meant - it's just that in some games (namely A:I, increasing the resolution of something, like reflections, doesn't make the blurring scale appropriately. It just makes it sharper... Which sucks :P

Gonna agree with all of you, and say that the PS4 video does look more natural, and pleasing to the eye. However,i didn't increase any of the reflection settings myself, just downloaded "Matti Hietanen's camera tool" which comes with some of the visual changes in the game. With that said, i personally think it looks nice as i like shiny things lol...but like i said before, it does look more immersive and true to the movie as portrayed in the video above! In the end, it's different strokes for different folks!

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That is odd, I'm surprised Matti's put those tweaks into his tools as a default setting. Also, reading back what I said - and I feel like I may have come off as rather aggressive, so apologies if that was the case. Shiny things are indeed nice. It just comes down to certain surfaces reflecting light differently - and I really think AI's blurred, wish-wash reflections help create that atmosphere of a worn-out, run-down station.

Anyway - I haven't posted any shots in aaaaages, so here's an old one from Fallout 4:

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For shadows, to get them correctly blurry, you need to render to a really high-res buffer and then do expensive sampling on top of that to make the right parts blurry to the correct degree again.

It's why the really high-end shadow settings (e.g. PCSS, or even more accurate HFTS) are often incredibly expensive.
(I might be way off base here!) Can't you do a blur which gets more intense based on distance from the object (so weights of the mixed in pixels for the blur are higher than the source pixel further away from the object casting the shadow). This will blur the shadow texture further away from the casting object more than closer to it. The end result might not be as nice as I imagine though, never tried it. Back in the days when I was still coding demos in the demoscene we debated at length to do soft shadows using gouraud shading in alpha where the edges of the sharp shadow were faded out based on the light having an actual size (so the shadow polygon was contained in another shadow polygon, the area between them was the softening area, gouraud shaded). We never got it performing well so we ditched it, but nowadays it would be very fast.

Really? For whatever reason I thought they preserved a high quality uncompressed version when you upload your .bmp or .png. Huh, my mistake.
Flickr converts BMPs to JPGs with an awful compression ratio, so pre-convert to png or jpgs ;)
 
Nice work man.

Thanks:) i wanted more of the planet in background but if i zoomed out then it didn't look right!

Yeah, that's what I meant - it's just that in some games (namely A:I, increasing the resolution of something, like reflections, doesn't make the blurring scale appropriately. It just makes it sharper... Which sucks :P

That is odd, I'm surprised Matti's put those tweaks into his tools as a default setting. Also, reading back what I said - and I feel like I may have come off as rather aggressive, so apologies if that was the case. Shiny things are indeed nice. It just comes down to certain surfaces reflecting light differently - and I really think AI's blurred, wish-wash reflections help create that atmosphere of a worn-out, run-down station.

Don't think it was a default setting...you just have to select "alternate" instead off "on" for reflection options in the graphics menu to look the way they did in my screenshots! And no worries, no apology needed.

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I think he simply meant that there are more ways to say you didn't like the shots than to state it like you're looking at a pile of dog shite. The texture work wasn't that stellar, I think we can all agree on that, but this thread shouldn't be one where you get bashed to pieces simply because you post your work. The more hostile this thread will become, the less people will post here.

There have been a couple of times here where pixelated shots from old games at a low res with full HUD... were to me a complete eyesore. I didn't state that they were because what's the point? Will the poster learn anything from "Hey bud, that shot is a complete eyesore"? no. That you liked them, that's fine, everyone should like what they please, the thing is: you don't have to bash people's work to the ground if you don't like that work. Scroll and move on. So yeah, 'chill', sorry but that means for you too.

Don't confuse snark and negative crap as 'criticism'. It's not. "Your stuff sucks" hasn't taught anyone anything other than 'there aren't nice people there'. I don't mean to be all positive, on the contrary, but if you want to comment on shots, do it with constructive criticism so there's something to learn from it. There's already enough negative crap in the world...

The feedback quality was higher than those Witcher 3 closeups warranted...

I really enjoy all the posts here, though I certainly don't have the skill/eye to post here myself. And as an observer, I do think it would be a shame if anyone (Jim2point0, or pharaohglyph, or anyone else) felt unwelcome and/or otherwise reluctant to contribute for any reason.

For that reason, I would just like to briefly echo the sentiment of OtisInf above, and disagree a bit with Parsnip on this one point: I don't think a strictly enforced ‘meritocracy' where errors and mistakes are severely punished is as appealing as a carefully cultivated (through self-restraint and effort on the part of each member) spirit of camaraderie (common feeling as gamers/enthusiasts), mutual respect, and constructive criticism.

Criticism doesn't need to be harsh or hostile or derogatory in order to be effective, and if we value the spirit of camaraderie and mutual respect, anything that has a harsh or hostile quality should probably be reserved for PM's, to take away the unfortunate component of ‘public humiliation'/‘public shaming' that some of the more harsh criticisms I've seen in this thread seem to have.

In the case of shots that I feel could have been better, I would try to stretch myself (self-restraint and effort) to understand what the person was going for, and to stretch myself (self-restraint and effort) to be able to articulate in a non-hostile fashion what exactly it was that the person could have done better (in order to capture whatever it was that they were going for).

If I felt I could not convey my recommendations without the addition of a negative judgment, I would give the person the courtesy of sending them a PM, rather than putting something harsh into the public/thread. In that case, even if I happened to say something harsh/hurtful to them, the person would appreciate the simple fact that I cared about how they might feel, enough that I chose address them on a more personal level (a PM), instead of effectively humiliating/shaming them within the thread. I think that alone would likely go a long way towards ensuring that all members were actually able to feel like they can relax and ‘chill' and simply enjoy the hobby.
 
All three users are frequent contributors to GAF, and Jim specifically has contributed significantly to these screenshot threads over the years. I realize that your feelings are hurt, but these people are not "bad apples." Opinionated sure, but welcome to the internet.

The way you are painting the situation makes it seem like they harassed you, when in fact all they did was point out that the low quality textures in The Witcher 3 don't look all that great up close. And quite frankly, they're right, but the important thing to remember is: who cares? Acknowledge what they are saying, agree or disagree, and then either change what kind of screenshots you post or don't. Many people in this thread have gotten way worse flak than you did on the last page - there was a period of time when Nick just posted very similar shots of Far Cry 3's landscape over and over again, there was a time when Otis was putting watermarks on his shots, etc etc. Bottom line is, as long as it meets the criteria in Stallion's OP, you're allowed to post whatever you personally think looks good, and everyone is going to just have to deal with it. At the end of the day, no one should be losing sleeping over a thread of videogame screenshots on an internet forum.


Yawnnn. Damnnn these shots are dull.
A basic 2-shot cutscene.. Really?
Why bother posting that here? Are you like 12?
Couldn't you even try to move the camera?
Seriously man, is there something wrong with ya?
Don't post that lame shit up in here no more.
Git gud or get gone.

"STLM + my ReShade preset."

Wow. You did your own reshade.
I'm surprised anyone lets you near their computer.

Lets all just say what we really feel.

Right?
 
The Evil Within

Please anyone know how to change the FOV during free camera in Evil Within? Flawless widescreen change fov only during gameplay.

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Yawnnn. Damnnn these shots are dull.
A basic 2-shot cutscene.. Really?
Why bother posting that here? Are you like 12?
Couldn't you even try to move the camera?
Seriously man, is there something wrong with ya?
Don't post that lame shit up in here no more.
Git gud or get gone.

"STLM + my ReShade preset."

Wow. You did your own reshade.
I'm surprised anyone lets you near their computer.

Lets all just say what we really feel.

Right?
Please stop.
 
Yawnnn. Damnnn these shots are dull.
A basic 2-shot cutscene.. Really?
Why bother posting that here? Are you like 12?
Couldn't you even try to move the camera?
Seriously man, is there something wrong with ya?
Don't post that lame shit up in here no more.
Git gud or get gone.

"STLM + my ReShade preset."

Wow. You did your own reshade.
I'm surprised anyone lets you near their computer.

Lets all just say what we really feel.

Right?

Um what the fuck is this? Leave the guy alone there is nothing wrong with his shots.
 
Yawnnn. Damnnn these shots are dull.
A basic 2-shot cutscene.. Really?
Why bother posting that here? Are you like 12?
Couldn't you even try to move the camera?
Seriously man, is there something wrong with ya?
Don't post that lame shit up in here no more.
Git gud or get gone.

"STLM + my ReShade preset."

Wow. You did your own reshade.
I'm surprised anyone lets you near their computer.

Lets all just say what we really feel.

Right?

What the fuck is your deal?
 
I was simply illustrating to SunbroDave the logical progression of his argument.

(See the last couple of pages if you wish to understand the bigger picture.)

I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain this to you.
 
Kind of a funny size on this one but whatever, cropping it a touch improved it.

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Thanks, R8TEDM3, for getting me back into Isolation and thus reminding me how great it is and how darn good it still looks.
 
Really? For whatever reason I thought they preserved a high quality uncompressed version when you upload your .bmp or .png. Huh, my mistake.

People already answered this, but Flickr punishes you for uploading BMPs as they are generally a horrible image format for the interwebs. Every BMP of X resolution is the same exact size regardless of content, whereas PNGs will still appear uncompressed and will be much much smaller. That said, I still think 99-100% quality JPGs are better.
 
It went from cute to full on mental breakdown in here. Yikes.

Really? For whatever reason I thought they preserved a high quality uncompressed version when you upload your .bmp or .png. Huh, my mistake.

People already answered this, but Flickr punishes you for uploading BMPs as they are generally a horrible image format for the interwebs. Every BMP of X resolution is the same exact size regardless of content, whereas PNGs will still appear uncompressed and will be much much smaller. That said, I still think 99-100% quality JPGs are better.

it really doesn't

Eh. I still consider The Witcher 3 to be one of the best looking games I've ever played... but it's easy to see where Wildlands trumps it in terms of graphical fidelity.
 
Thanks guys, I really appreciate the positive support.
I find these negative comments stressful.
Seems to me a few bad apples spoiling the barrel.
I do find it challenging to deal with this kind of behaviour, but I feel it best to confront it when encountered.

Parsnip, Jim, Morgan Stark I notice they post a lot. They also seem to often back each other up. Most people on here seem to get it, yet these three, I don't know, something seems odd..
Not sure if its a form of autism (unconscious) or simply narcissism (conscious).
Jim i believe banned himself from here for inciting similar conflicts recently.

I genuinely enjoy constructive criticism, or just plain criticism if delivered with humour. Their comments seem personal.

I like this site as a forum to display and share this hobby, do we just have to accept a teenage level of emotional awareness from some of the members?

Should we call them out on this bs each time?

You must really have serious issues getting this confrontational when someone doesn't like the textures of a video game that you took pictures of. And no, you shouldn't find this behavior challenging to deal with because there is nothing to deal with. Morrigan just agreed to constructive criticism about the low res textures in the post above him, if you call that some kind of harassment and difficult to deal with, then forums are not your place my friend. Now please let us enjoy a thread of beautiful pictures without all this unnecessary drama you're creating. You could have easily ignored Morrigan or just accepted that the textures are indeed low which is a fact. Also calling someone autistic just because they don't like the low res textures that you zoomed so much into seems a bit too much. Maybe someone needs to call you out on your bs?

Yawnnn. Damnnn these shots are dull.
A basic 2-shot cutscene.. Really?
Why bother posting that here? Are you like 12?
Couldn't you even try to move the camera?
Seriously man, is there something wrong with ya?
Don't post that lame shit up in here no more.
Git gud or get gone.

"STLM + my ReShade preset."

Wow. You did your own reshade.
I'm surprised anyone lets you near their computer.

Lets all just say what we really feel.

Right?

Oh jesus
 
Yawnnn. Damnnn these shots are dull.
A basic 2-shot cutscene.. Really?
Why bother posting that here? Are you like 12?
Couldn't you even try to move the camera?
Seriously man, is there something wrong with ya?
Don't post that lame shit up in here no more.
Git gud or get gone.

"STLM + my ReShade preset."

Wow. You did your own reshade.
I'm surprised anyone lets you near their computer.

Lets all just say what we really feel.

Right?
No. Not right. There's already too much negativity in this world. There's definitely no need for any more in this bloody thread. If someone feels the need to vomit their snark and gall here, that's their choice. No need to illustrate that with yet another post.

You must really have serious issues getting this confrontational when someone doesn't like the textures of a video game that you took pictures of. And no, you shouldn't find this behavior challenging to deal with because there is nothing to deal with. Morrigan just agreed to constructive criticism about the low res textures in the post above him, if you call that some kind of harassment and difficult to deal with, then forums are not your place my friend. Now please let us enjoy a thread of beautiful pictures without all this unnecessary drama you're creating. You could have easily ignored Morrigan or just accepted that the textures are indeed low which is a fact. Also calling someone autistic just because they don't like the low res textures that you zoomed so much into seems a bit too much. Maybe someone needs to call you out on your bs?
Seriously... the bashing of the shots earlier was 'calling someone on their BS'? This is what I mean... it is crap like that that makes this thread no fun anymore. You barely contribute here, yet feel the need to pour more negativity into this thread. I really don't see why your contributions should be the block of text above and not a series of shots which show the person who is apparently full of it you know better.

But whatever.
 
Yawnnn. Damnnn these shots are dull.
A basic 2-shot cutscene.. Really?
Why bother posting that here? Are you like 12?
Couldn't you even try to move the camera?
Seriously man, is there something wrong with ya?
Don't post that lame shit up in here no more.
Git gud or get gone.

"STLM + my ReShade preset."

Wow. You did your own reshade.
I'm surprised anyone lets you near their computer.

Lets all just say what we really feel.

Right?

Jesus Christ man youre just making yourself look like an arsehole with this kind of crap. If i got whiny and pissy every time someone posted an unflattering comment on a screenshot of mine id waste alot of my life being pissy and whiny. Your shots looked bad at full size due to low res textures that were never meant to be seen up that close. Get over it. Keep posting them, who cares, just don't throw a fucking baby tantrum and complain about hurt feelings because someone dared not like a fucking screengrab of a video game you put on the internet. Honestly if someone not liking your fuckin screenshot is the worst thing to happen to you in any given day, consider yourself lucky.

I was simply illustrating to SunbroDave the logical progression of his argument.

(See the last couple of pages if you wish to understand the bigger picture.)

I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain this to you.

Holy god i just saw this reply. Jesus Christ. I think you might need actual real help if your'e this upset over a screenshot. You may want to leave this thread for you own, and by proxy everyone else's, mental wellbeing.
 
Seriously... the bashing of the shots earlier was 'calling someone on their BS'? This is what I mean... it is crap like that that makes this thread no fun anymore. You barely contribute here, yet feel the need to pour more negativity into this thread. I really don't see why your contributions should be the block of text above and not a series of shots which show the person who is apparently full of it you know better.

But whatever.

No one bashed his shots, just two people pointed out that those textures were too low res to be viewed so closely. If that ain't constructive criticism I don't know what is. And because of that "bashing" one of those guys got called autistic, but sure keep defending a guy who couldn't handle his emotions because some trolls made fun of his pics
sarcasm
. And I did contribute to this thread by posting a picture above just fyi. Here's another 2 pics so this post doesn't go to waste

https://flic.kr/p/QF6E7M https://www.flickr.com/photos/147572875@N06/

https://flic.kr/p/RFtdm5 https://www.flickr.com/photos/147572875@N06/
 
Yawnnn. Damnnn these shots are dull.
A basic 2-shot cutscene.. Really?
Why bother posting that here? Are you like 12?
Couldn't you even try to move the camera?
Seriously man, is there something wrong with ya?
Don't post that lame shit up in here no more.

Git gud or get gone.

"STLM + my ReShade preset."

Wow. You did your own reshade.
I'm surprised anyone lets you near their computer.

Lets all just say what we really feel.

Right?

Why don't you take you're own advice?

If you aren't gonna say anything positive or provide constructive criticism then don't come in here posting. There's no need for your attitude here.
 
People already answered this, but Flickr punishes you for uploading BMPs as they are generally a horrible image format for the interwebs. Every BMP of X resolution is the same exact size regardless of content, whereas PNGs will still appear uncompressed and will be much much smaller. That said, I still think 99-100% quality JPGs are better.

In case of classic bitmap in photography I would agree with you. In case of game screenshots... Not so much.

In real world you will never get same data on multiple pixels (ie sky), in games that is no problem. So... With PNG you'll never get any artifacts from compression clearly visible on gradient in image saved in JPG. And we still speak about 8bit pictures.

Examples in uncompressed TIF (please, download it before compare):
JPG - 100%: https://1drv.ms/i/s!AnEOsmt13wbHl-1iWdwMpkN-q85T8Q
PNG - uncompressed: https://1drv.ms/i/s!AnEOsmt13wbHl-1h4aaYVIppkh2n4Q

Of course in a case of making screenshots for fun, previewing it in different browsers that shows different colour profiles, on non-calibrated monitors with wired compression from different image hosting sites... it is barely noticeable. However for professional work I would never use JPG's for screenshoting.

BTW, is there some "rule" for not posting screenshots from cut-scenes? There is nothing creative for taking screenshots from pre-composed scenes.
 
No one bashed his shots, just two people pointed out that those textures were too low res to be viewed so closely. If that ain't constructive criticism I don't know what is. And because of that "bashing" one of those guys got called autistic, but sure keep defending a guy who couldn't handle his emotions because some trolls made fun of his pics
sarcasm
. And I did contribute to this thread by posting a picture above just fyi. Here's another 2 pics so this post doesn't go to waste
I'm not defending anyone, I'm just tired of the recurring whining by a few people here, who barely post shots as well, only negative shit. And it wasn't about 'hey man, these textures are a little low-res", but way less gentle and you know that. I think it's not this single incident, but a line of incidents which pile up, which can reach a point where posting here is not fun at all anymore.
 
I'm not defending anyone, I'm just tired of the recurring whining by a few people here, who barely post shots as well, only negative shit. And it wasn't about 'hey man, these textures are a little low-res", but way less gentle and you know that. I think it's not this single incident, but a line of incidents which pile up, which can reach a point where posting here is not fun at all anymore.

Lol, you're the same guy who said my screenshots wasn't worth looking at in the 2016 thread because I posted some with jaggies.

I mean its a screenshot thread but I gave up posting because unless its 8k fucking NASA super computer people get upset, when in reality even 800x600 fits the thread name.
 
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