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[Boy Wander]

Brother was apparently planning attack of his own in Tripoli according to Sky News.

 

[Beefy]

source?

Source my mum being shit at the net and getting confused between AP and some random. 😔

 

[Meadows]

Source my mum being shit at the net and getting confused between AP and some random. 😔

haha no prob, eh btw tell your ma to get back to me on that thing we've got on Saturday

Spoiler

bants

 

[Dash27]

His father is claiming the pieces his son blew himself and others up into, are all innocent:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-suspected-manchester-bomber-says-son-innocent-164057058.html

Dad also may or may not be involved with Al Qaida.

Even though the senior Abedi denied that he was a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting group, former Libyan security official Abdel-Basit Haroun told the AP that the elder Abedi was a member in the 1990s of the group, which had links to al-Qaida.

"My message to the world is that there are hidden hands that want to tarnish the image of Muslims who live in the west," he said.

 

[Rktk]

Government wants everyone's internet activity recorded and searchable by the Welsh Ambulance Service and HMRC because terrorism and paedos and yet what may have prevented this attack was following up information and additional resources for monitoring a person of interest.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

His father is claiming the pieces his son blew himself and others up into, are all innocent:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-suspected-manchester-bomber-says-son-innocent-164057058.html

Dad also may or may not be involved with Al Qaida.

One would think that should have surfaced when he immigrated to the UK.

 

[Meadows]

One would think that should have surfaced when he immigrated to the UK.

He got asylum as a refugee from Gaddafi's regime. He was in an islamic force over there, but you have to remember that pre-9/11 that wasn't really seen as that much of a bad thing.

 

[Boy Wander]

Police were apparently warned about his radicalisation. He was shopped by the Muslim community because they were worried about his extreme views. Sounds like the security services may have slipped up here.

 

[bonesmccoy]

His father is claiming the pieces his son blew himself and others up into, are all innocent:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-suspected-manchester-bomber-says-son-innocent-164057058.html

Dad also may or may not be involved with Al Qaida.

Oof, so:

- this kid's dad has links to Al-Qaeda
- the kid himself had apparently traveled to Syria and Libya recently
- a community worker notified police about him expressing support for terrorism/extremism

 

[Dash27]

One would think that should have surfaced when he immigrated to the UK.

You'd think. Although I hesitate to blame the vetting until I know more about how many people we are talking about. I feel like they are given an impossible job. How do you vet so many people thoroughly year after year. Are they given enough tools, funding etc. Can they even do checks? People freak out as soon as someone is inconvenienced.

Until something like this happens of course .

 

[backflip10019]

Oof, so:

- this kid's dad has links to Al-Qaeda
- the kid himself had apparently traveled to Syria and Libya recently
- a community worker notified police about him expressing support for terrorism/extremism

"If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a rhinoceros." - Manchester police

 

[Boy Wander]

"If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a rhinoceros." - Manchester police

Yeah, let's NOT be a dickhead and insult the people that serve and protect us. They've probably thwarted a ton more plots that we don't even know about.

 

[Laekon]

His father is claiming the pieces his son blew himself and others up into, are all innocent:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-suspected-manchester-bomber-says-son-innocent-164057058.html

Dad also may or may not be involved with Al Qaida.

He was part of a group against Gaddafi. It was probably supported by the US and UK like the people who created the Taliban were.

 

[liquidtmd]

"If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a rhinoceros." - Manchester police

Walk that goddamn beat for one day.

See the shit they see.

See the public shit on them

See politicians use them as scapegoats

Work the 13 hour shifts they do.

Work for the pay they do.

Hell the shit they saw as first responders to this attack would probably haunt any Gaffers dream till the end of their days. For them, it was Monday.

 

[TeddyBoy]

Gaf Wiganers, assemble!

(I was born there but now live down south)

I was at Wigan North Western at 7:15, nothing out the ordinary so I guess it was all over by then.

St. Helens gaffer here

 

[Meadows]

Another armed raid in North Manchester now. Prestwich. Reports of a loud bang (probably forced entry or a cont explosion).


https://twitter.com/DanJohnsonNews

 

[Meadows]

Residents aren't being allowed to leave the block, which has been surrounded.

https://twitter.com/fperraudin

 

[Thornton Reed]

I was at Wigan North Western at 7:15, nothing out the ordinary so I guess it was all over by then.

St. Helens gaffer here

Fucking hell there are 2 of us

 

[msdstc]

Typical. He was handed to police and they did nothing.

Yep, we see this time and time again.

What can they do? If they go after him prematurely it's considered encroachment on human rights.

 

[Meadows]

armed raid in N Manchester

 

[plagiarize]

What can they do? If they go after him prematurely it's considered encroachment on human rights.

Indeed.

Unless you witness him committing actual crimes, what can you do? And as I've said before, you can only justify watching someone for so long.

 

[Meadows]

MEN:

Three arrested in N Manchester

 

[Pankratous]

Spent 30 minutes reading Daily Mail. Huge mistake. Fucking vile consumers.

 

[Meadows]

MEN:

A woman has been arrested in connection with the Manchester Arena suicide bombing following an armed raid on a block of flats in Blackley, in the north of the city, Greater Manchester Police said.

 

[Little Old Man]

MEN:

A woman has been arrested in connection with the Manchester Arena suicide bombing following an armed raid on a block of flats in Blackley, in the north of the city, Greater Manchester Police said.

Moving very fast then. I presume the image above is from that block of flats?

 

[leatherhat]

Oof, so:

- this kid's dad has links to Al-Qaeda
- the kid himself had apparently traveled to Syria and Libya recently
- a community worker notified police about him expressing support for terrorism/extremism

All of these are massive red flags but the bolded really gets me. How do you let someone with ties to Al-Qaeda into your county. Baffling.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

Pardon, what is "MEN"?

(I'm assuming its some sort of news source, not the males)

 

[Meadows]

Moving very fast then. I presume the image above is from that block of flats?

Yeah. Seems like the net is closing in.

Pardon, what is "MEN"?

(I'm assuming its some sort of news source, not the males)

Manchester Evening News

 

[The Artisan]

i have heard people say that isis attacks in the Middle East is way more frequent. in fact, i hear they kill way more people there than in the western world, and apparently that is where they recruit a lot from too

 

[Rktk]

It would be nice if the US would stop leaking shared information to the press.

 

[2blackcats]

i have heard people say that isis attacks in the Middle East is way more frequent. in fact, i hear they kill way more people there than in the western world, and apparently that is where they recruit a lot from too

Well they are at war. They control large areas of Syria and Iraq along with smaller areas in half a dozen other countries.

 

[nephilimdj]

Cant believe nyt leaked the photos after being high and mighty over trump. What a bunch of cunts helping terrorists

 

[TheLionsDen]

All of these are massive red flags but the bolded really gets me. How do you let someone with ties to Al-Qaeda into your county. Baffling.

The son was born in Manchester so I'm guessing the Al-Qaeda ties are a more recent thing.

 

[Liljagare]

nm
It's not the peacefull followers that cause any problems, but...

 

[Visualante2]

Please source images

 

[Boy Wander]

All of these are massive red flags but the bolded really gets me. How do you let someone with ties to Al-Qaeda into your county. Baffling.

Because he was anti-Gadaffi at a time we were. Not 100%, but Isn't it the case that Bin Laden was once funded or armed by the Americans? Allegiances change. I'm sure there's lots of cases of the West having once funded people fighting a common enemy only for it to turn around on them.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Because he was anti-Gadaffi at a time we were. Not 100%, but Isn't it the case that Bin Laden was once funded or armed by the Americans? Allegiances change. I'm sure there's lots of cases of the West having once funded people fighting a common enemy only for it to turn around on them.

Didn't Rumsfeld do deals with Saddam in the early 80's?

 

[backflip10019]

Yeah, let's NOT be a dickhead and insult the people that serve and protect us. They've probably thwarted a ton more plots that we don't even know about.

Walk that goddamn beat for one day.

See the shit they see.

See the public shit on them

See politicians use them as scapegoats

Work the 13 hour shifts they do.

Work for the pay they do.

Hell the shit they saw as first responders to this attack would probably haunt any Gaffers dream till the end of their days. For them, it was Monday.

Ok fine, maybe it's a little unfair, but there are a lot of signals that this guy was a problem, and it seems like those signals were ignored.

 

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

armed raid in N Manchester

Is that UKSF again? Doesn't look like the Police gear we've seen previously.

 

[Xando]

Is that UKSF again? Doesn't look like the Police gear we've seen previously.

Multicam gives it away that it's SAS

 

[Auraela]

friend on facebook sharing there daughter hasnt been seen or heard off since show ):

 

[Boy Wander]

BBC reporting a 7th person arrested in Manchester.

 

[spuckthew]

Multicam gives it away that it's SAS

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "multicam" and why does it suggest that they're SAS?

 

[Xando]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "multicam" and why does it suggest that they're SAS?

Multicam is a camouflage pattern
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiCam?wprov=sfsi1
CTSFO(counter terrorism units) don't wear multicam but only regular black/grey clothing.

 

[cyberheater]

Police were apparently warned about his radicalisation. He was shopped by the Muslim community because they were worried about his extreme views. Sounds like the security services may have slipped up here.

And there is fuck all they can do because they would be labelled as racist. They are forced to sit by until someone acts. It's terrible.

 

[spuckthew]

Multicam is camouflage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiCam?wprov=sfsi1
CTSFO(counter terrorism units) don't wear multicam but only regular black/grey clothing.

Couldn't they just be regular army personnel then? Or do they not typically get involved with anti-terror raids?

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

BBC reporting a 7th person arrested in Manchester.

In Nuneaton, apparently.

 

[TheCrackInTime]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "multicam" and why does it suggest that they're SAS?

Camouflage. People seem to be getting a bit carried away thinking that it's SAS though. Army, yes. SAS, probably not.

 

[edbrat]

All of these are massive red flags but the bolded really gets me. How do you let someone with ties to Al-Qaeda into your county. Baffling.

Because we're not like North Korea who automatically blame the kids for the sins of the parent. We're better than that. Or at least that is what some of us aspire to. A philosopher wrote this centuries ago but it's still true if easy to lose sight of in the fury that atrocities provoke:

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster"

 

[Xando]

Couldn't they just be regular army personnel then? Or do they not typically get involved with anti-terror raids?

Camouflage. People seem to be getting a bit carried away thinking that it's SAS though. Army, yes. SAS, probably not.

Regular army units don't carry out anti terror raids within the UK.