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22 dead, 59 injured in Manchester Arena explosion (Being treated as an attack)
- Thread starter E-phonk
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[EDIT: Double post - apologies]
This is a full team of 7 plain clothed, armed Police in unmarked cars with a further 4 police vans and 10 regular police officers. This is not a regular arrest, it has to be someone they are aware of. There is no way a town like mine has these kind of resources to just take someone down as a precaution from someone dialling it in. A certain level of intel has to be involved.
No way!
This is a full team of 7 plain clothed, armed Police in unmarked cars with a further 4 police vans and 10 regular police officers. This is not a regular arrest, it has to be someone they are aware of. There is no way a town like mine has these kind of resources to just take someone down as a precaution from someone dialling it in. A certain level of intel has to be involved.
No way!
No way!
Went to Highfield C of E Primary school for a couple of years back in the 90s before moving down south. Born in Billinge Hospital, which I understand is now a cinema complex?
edit: realise this is totally off-topic, apologies for all non-Wiganers out there reading this
DUDE! I am a Billinge hospital baby as well. I went to St James' and St Peters' in Orrell.
The hospital is now a housing estate.
Anyway ... SHIT IS GOING DOWN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE !! - I am sure it will turn out to be nothing.
Insane Metal
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Damn
holygeesus
Banned
I appreciate the police and security forces stepping up police/army presence around sporting events and concerts etc, but what really worries me, with the summer rapidly approaching, is all the music festivals etc. They are so densely populated, it is scary to think what impact a coordinated attack on one might have. I haven't been to one in cheers - what has the police presence been like in recent times?
The Hamburglar
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Typical. He was handed to police and they did nothing.
Skellig Gra
Member
Yep, we see this time and time again.
Wasthe suicide bomber actually at the show or was it in the foyer area ? Either way he must have had a ticket right ?
When i saw machine head last year (different venue) they patted everyone down and had everyone go through metal detectors. Does manchester arena not have a similar process?
When i saw machine head last year (different venue) they patted everyone down and had everyone go through metal detectors. Does manchester arena not have a similar process?
Live:
https://twitter.com/M_W_Gaffney/status/867419760979529729
Footage of the police dealing with a sus package left by the 5th person arrested.
https://twitter.com/M_W_Gaffney/status/867419760979529729
Footage of the police dealing with a sus package left by the 5th person arrested.
The Hamburglar
Banned
"lessons will be learned"
no the foyer area is just a big door connected to the trainstation that anyone can get to then there's the big main doors that lead into the area that you need a ticket for.
Last time I went in the arena I don't remember metal detectors being there.
according to people security is more concerned about checking for water bottles anyway.
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but junies can't make a new one.
Possible bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia.
Possible bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia.
plagiarize
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And yet people will still claim that the Muslims of Manchester didn't do enough here.
When we heard he was known to the police, I wondered if that news came from people who went to his mosque or others from his Muslim community.
These stories tend to get buried though.
What can they do?
They check these people out. If they don't find evidence of anything, they will monitor them, but they can't monitor them indefinitely.
Ah yea i saw machine head at apollo in london u couldn't enter building without ticket n they checked u there too.
Quite suprised they let people into foyer area without ticket
It's because the part of the arena where this happened is conjoined with Victoria Train Station so you can't segregate it for those with tickets. The area is a thoroughfare to the main road as well, with a McDonalds that anyone can access.
Not a good look for the government or police.
Ah i see makes more sense now
Yeah it's just not practical at all in many places. Even if you could put in some sort of checkpoint you are just moving the problem further back.
I H8 Memes
Member
Same thing happened with the Boston Marathon bombers. Russia even warned us.
All that data they collect is only useful for post-incident investigations.
GoldenCrow
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CHEEZMO;237932736 said:
Thats disgraceful. I expected more from the NYT.
Problem is alot of people dont see it that way n the alt right etc use that notion n people start swinging to believing those groups.
I dont have an answer but there has to be a middle ground somewhere that sometimes the intel is enough to move on target but that target does damage
Reuters:
Suspect's dad has been arrested in Tripoli. The younger son, who was arrested earlier in Tripoli, was thought by authorities there to be planning an attack. Here's a pic of him, you know, holding an LMG.
What a photo.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Reuters:
Suspect's dad has been arrested in Tripoli. The younger son, who was arrested earlier in Tripoli, was thought by authorities there to be planning an attack. Here's a pic of him, you know, holding an LMG.
To clarify, it was thought that the brother would be planning an attack in Tripoli. With the father being arrested too, this family sounds kinda fucked up. Wonder if they were radicalised before or after returning to Libya.
What are you saying? Theres muslim enforcers roaming the streets giving all the stare to stay quite or they'll get them? People are being muzzeled so the community can carry out crime and terror? Regardless of your warped ideas this isn't a reply to my post, your ignoring the fact that your attempt to position all Muslims as implicit falls apart when it's Muslims that have suffered tremendously as well. I don't want to disrespect or take attention away from the victims so will save this for another thread.
Yeah but I didn't know what that meant. Was he planning an attack on the UK in Tripoli or an attack on Tripoli in Tripoli.
This is just bizzare. And his Dad's been arrested too? What is going on with that family
JonnyDBrit
Member
The latter, it would seem. Since it was Libyan counter-terrorism that arrested him too.
GameAddict411
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Reuters:
Suspect's dad has been arrested in Tripoli. The younger son, who was arrested earlier in Tripoli, was thought by authorities there to be planning an attack. Here's a pic of him, you know, holding an LMG.
At least we know now that the parents had something to do with the radicalization of these kids. Not shocking, but quite sad.
ReplacementPelican
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As I said in my post, Sadiq Khan, who Morrissey called out by name, has asked the Muslim community to help in rooting out extremists.
I could engage with you more but you're literally ignoring the real world. People are saying the terrorist is a Muslim, people always do, you're just ignoring them and shouting about how nobody thinks its Muslims. So... I don't really think it's worth it.
Yeah seems odd that the Father wouldn't have known two of his sons were pieces of shits. Unless he fooled himself that they were shit heads but not dangerous
The only thing I'd say is that authorities in Libya are quicker to jump to conclusions or force confessions than our forces would be so take that with a pinch of salt.
Although, you know the image of him holding an LMG in a car park isn't a great look.
If they arrested every head banger we'd have to stick them all on an island or something to make room.
JonnyDBrit
Member
True enough. Especially since the country is still split down the middle, so the government in Tripoli may be trying to act quickly as a means of currying favour for future support.
Also, you wouldn't want to be in a Libyan prison, torture is common so yeah im a little sceptical of the authorities claims.
backflip10019
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A whole family of fuckwads. Great.
Boy Wander
Member
Yeah the US security services need to plug this leak asap. US media should also be ashamed of themselves. So much for being an ally. No shame whatsoever chasing views at the potential expense of more lives lost down the line.
source?
BossDarkseid
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Manchester Police don't tend to communicate as well as they should do with CT
At least arrests etc are being made.
At least arrests etc are being made.