DeepEnigma
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"But it looks prettier."PS4 30fps = bad.
NSW2 30fps = good.![]()
"Oh, so now it's graphics over gameplay?"

"But it looks prettier."PS4 30fps = bad.
NSW2 30fps = good.![]()
i grewed up playing games 12 fps portimble for my fat ass good ps4 crudPS4 30fps = bad.
NSW2 30fps = good.![]()
Explains the brain damage.i grewed up playing games 12 fps portimble for my fat ass good ps4 crud
CorrectionPS4 30fps with issues = bad.
NSW2 40fps = good.![]()
Ah yes. They promised a 40fps mode at some point.Correction
30 Watts or 10 watts (looking better) VS 250 Watts….PS4 30fps = bad.
NSW2 30fps = good.![]()
i dont know, does those play nintendo games?Yeah, tech advances after over a decade. You should see the power of these little things called Bionic Chips Axx.
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If this keeps up those goalposts will be arrested for speeding.."But it looks prettier."
"Oh, so now it's graphics over gameplay?"
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2025 vs 201330 Watts VS 250 Watts….
You'll be surprised what you can emulate on M2s and Axx chips. And they look and perform better to boot.i dont know, does those play nintendo games?
If this keeps up those goalposts will be arrested for speeding..
Now is a 2025 tech? lol… I thought is was a 2018 cheap tech…2025 vs 2013
Not ironic at all.2025 vs 2013
You'll be surprised what you can emulate on M2s and Axx chips. And they look and perform better to boot.
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10 watts will have better IQ than on 250 watts?30 Watts or 10 watts (looking better) VS 250 Watts….
Quality mode running at 30fps probably yes, thanks to DLSS.10 watts will have better IQ than on 250 watts?
So nothing. people forgets that the Nintendo switch released in the time PS4pro and Xbox one X lunch but it still sold well. Also The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom won Best Technology and Innovation Awards at Game Developers Choice Awards with PS5 and Series X 4yrs on the market.2025 vs 2013
You'll be surprised what you can emulate on M2s and Axx chips. And they look and perform better to boot.
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Nobody is disputing that.Switch 2 is going to do great.
At first i thought that the Switch 2 was going to achieve same graphics as base PS4 in handheld mode, now i think is going to do a bit better, docked mode is another history… Also DLSS is better.So nothing. people forgets that the Nintendo switch released in the time PS4pro and Xbox one X lunch but it still sols well. Also won Best Technology and Innovation Awards at Game Developers Choice Awards with PS5 and Series X on the market.
Look forward to discussions, Pro exclusive game arguments, Teraflop wars, DLSS vs FSR vs PSSR, which one's suprerior, and general power "discussions".
Switch 2 is going to do great.
Don't do that. Your joke wasn't funny and it just riles people up. Something which you can know by virtue of visiting NeoGAF.It was a joke.
More docked 30fps shit show. -_-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I think what isn't clear is you expecting seemingly a lot higher framerate on a game notorious to push hardware."30fps shit show" was not clear enough?? Must I draw??
Heavily neutered by Apple. I never liked the concept of designing ultra powerful chips and then having nothing to prove that.Yeah, tech advances after over a decade. You should see the power of these little things called Bionic Chips Axx.
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Do you?Explains the brain damage.
I kid, I kid.
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Because the option should be possible. Even $399 Deck has it.Why are you expecting better than 30 FPS (There is a 40 FPS mode)? I honestly don't understand that.
What's wrong with the quote?DF has clearly lost their head when analyzing Switch 2's graphical capabilities.
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And then you well see people asking to compared it with the PS5… The Switch 2 is exactly like that Between PS4 and PS5 as almost everyone with a brain expected.What's wrong with the quote?
They aren't gonna compare visuals and performance to a ps5 or series x as those will smoke the switch 2.
So ps4 makes sense.
More close to a PS4 so df quote makes sense.And then you well see people asking to compared it with the PS5… The Switch 2 is exactly like that Between PS4 and PS5 as almost everyone with a brain expected.
PS4 handheld and PS4 Pro ~ Series S docked. DF says Base PS4 when Switch 2 docked, which is wrong…More close to a PS4 so df quote makes sense.
DF has clearly lost their head when analyzing Switch 2's graphical capabilities.
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Nothing against you man but it's hilarious it's YOU the one posting this gif...
What's the exact quote form df?PS4 handheld and PS4 Pro ~ Series S docked. DF says Base PS4 when Switch 2 docked, which is wrong…
Base PS4 is the more natural comparison point for Switch 2 when docked.What's the exact quote form df?
If they are saying if it's the natural point of comparison that makes sensePS4 handheld and PS4 Pro ~ Series S docked. DF says Base PS4 when Switch 2 docked, which is wrong…
And that's an x86 device, the kind of processor RedEngine4 was made for.Because the option should be possible. Even $399 Deck has it.![]()
Not at all, even is you uses TF which means nothing right now, The Switch 2 handheld is 1.7 vs 1.8 of the Base PS4, docked the Switch 2 is at 3.1, and that is just raw power without even taking into consideration new techs and Nvidia advantages like DLSS.If they are saying if it's the natural point of comparison that makes sense
it's power is more closer to a last gen console then current gen.
Did they say it will exactly perform like a PS4? I've never heard them say that. They've always been saying the advantages it will have over a ps4 with stuff like dlss.Not at all, even is you uses TF which means nothing right now, The Switch 2 handheld is 1.7 vs 1.8 of the Base PS4, docked the Switch 2 is at 3.1, and that is just raw power without even taking into consideration new techs and Nvidia advantages like DLSS.
30 Watts or 10 watts (looking better) VS 250 Watts….
Is a handheld…Oh, power consumption is important now?
PS4 handheld and PS4 Pro ~ Series S docked. DF says Base PS4 when Switch 2 docked, which is wrong…
Well see, but i doubt it. 3.1 TF is more closer to 4.2 than to 1.8… Even by simple math… Without taking Nvidia advantages into consideration.it's between base PS4 and Pro when docked. closer to base than Pro.
even without FLOP "inflation" it's not on par in raw compute with the Pro.
Well see, but i doubt it. 3.1 TF is more closer to 4.2 than to 1.8…
What you think are the real TF on Switch 2? Just for curiosityits 3.1 TF on Ampere. the Switch 2 is as much a 3.1 TF machine as the PS5 Pro is a 32 TF machine.
Dual Issue FP32 murkies the water here. so the question in reality is, how does a 3.1 TF ampere GPU compare to RDNA2/GCN
So TF number is fake?its 3.1 TF on Ampere. the Switch 2 is as much a 3.1 TF machine as the PS5 Pro is a 32 TF machine.
Dual Issue FP32 murkies the water here. so the question in reality is, how does a 3.1 TF ampere GPU compare to RDNA2/GCN
I am waiting for his response… He's maybe is an expert on this kind of topics or a full time trollSo TF number is fake?
No, but TF aren't a proper parameter for strength, except when to explain it in simple terms and even then its just not a good metric.So TF number is fake?
Steam Deck doesn't have improved performance docked.
Will using Docking Station increase the performance of Steam Deck?
No, Docking Station provides charging and connectivity, but no additional performance benefits.
I didn't know that because I don't own a steam deck, but man it sounds like you steam deck owners got ripped off then. Nintendo proved years prior and then years later again that you can upclock and enhance the performance of a handheld device when plugged into a dock, and at a cheaper price. Yall should expect and demand better from Valve next time.You do know that there is the Internet right? Show me where it says that the stream deck gets more powerful when docked? Having no battery restrictions doesn't make the device more powerful. The steam deck wasn't designed to upclock when docked(which released months later).
Steam deck dock was designed to turn it into a workstation not make it more powerful.
ARTNothing against you man but it's hilarious it's YOU the one posting this gif...
thank you for your brilliant insights on the value proposition for a device you've admitted you don't know much aboutI didn't know that because I don't own a steam deck, but man it sounds like you steam deck owners got ripped off then. Nintendo proved years prior and then years later again that you can upclock and enhance the performance of a handheld device when plugged into a dock, and at a cheaper price. Yall should expect and demand better from Valve next time.