-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
[3DS] Ace Combat Assault Horizon: Legacy |OT| Better than Ace Combat Assault Horizon
- Thread starter Yuterald
- Start date
I'll check next time I play it, but the frame rate drops are very rare to begin with so it's difficult to notice. Like another user mentioned, only when there is like a big explosion and lots of jets within your vicinity does the frame rate ever fall and even then it's not bad at all.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Where does this fit into the Namcoverse?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ysKSQkaXB4&feature=related
Something kind of unrelated, but is anyone else obsessed with mysterious planes/jets/fighters in games? This became one of my favorite 'things' in games back when I first played Giga Wing on the Sega Dreamcast. There was this plane called Stranger and no one knew who piloted the jet, where it came from, or which side it was one. But the pilot was good and the characters in the game would always comment on how skillful and graceful, etc. it was.
The Z.O.E jet in Assault Horizon Legacy instantly gave me those vibes and it's one of the main reasons why I think the game is so cool. The video above is a link to Giga Wing to just show the similarities between the two games. It's around the 50 sec mark.
Something kind of unrelated, but is anyone else obsessed with mysterious planes/jets/fighters in games? This became one of my favorite 'things' in games back when I first played Giga Wing on the Sega Dreamcast. There was this plane called Stranger and no one knew who piloted the jet, where it came from, or which side it was one. But the pilot was good and the characters in the game would always comment on how skillful and graceful, etc. it was.
The Z.O.E jet in Assault Horizon Legacy instantly gave me those vibes and it's one of the main reasons why I think the game is so cool. The video above is a link to Giga Wing to just show the similarities between the two games. It's around the 50 sec mark.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
An AC2 remake?! :O This will be bought!
JacksUsername
Member
Picked this up yesterday - will be rotating this and Mario Kart out of my 3DS for the next couple of weeks or so. This is actually the first Ace Combat game I have ever played and an enjoying it so far. It's a little on the easy side so far on normal mode, but I'm only a few missions in.
Femmeworth
Banned
Wait, what?! O_O On that note, I love the fictional planes in the Ace Combat series. AC7, if it ever exists, needs to like have all of them. I was sad to not see the Falken or Wyvern in HD glory in AC6.
However, the Nosferatu was pretty sick.Should have started it on hard. The Ace Combat series tends to be on the easy side, even at the highest difficulty.
JacksUsername
Member
Ah, well since I'm not that far in, I'll probably just restart. Glad I didn't get too deep waiting for difficulty curve to increase dramatically.
Femmeworth
Banned
X is supposed to be the better of the two. I just got it, but haven't gotten around to playing it yet. Gamestop has it for $10 online, but it sold out or something.
It's still only $15 on Amazon, which is what I paid.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FVM49Y/?tag=neogaf0e-20Crazymoogle
Member
I don't think they explain the "ZOE" designator. It has nothing to do with the Konami games, though; one of the ZOEs is clearly
Falken, only without the laser and with rear-fire guns/missiles instead
Femmeworth
Banned
Oh.
It's still good to hear that's unlockable. I had read that it first appeared in 2 but wasn't playable.
No laser is a disappointment though.
Crazymoogle
Member
Oh.No laser is a disappointment though.
Uh, I think it's unlockable but only have Gamefaqs to go off of that. I just know that you fight it...
Femmeworth
Banned
Yeah, I already looked at the plane list.
Tell me more of this 'Time Commando 3DS' you speak of.
Sadly I have learned that there is no version of Time Commando for the 3DS, I was told it was supposed to come out in December but apparently it never existed...
Oh well, atleast I can look forward to The Hive for 3DS early next year!
Those are early shots of the game. Plus it looks better in motion with the motion blur filter. I'm telling you, the IQ in this game is pretty good.And I know a side by side comparison might show otherwise but shots like this just make me think "PS1 Ace Combat".
Couldn't it look like The Sky Crawlers + some fancy cool shaders on top, for better lighting/explosions etc?
It actually looks closer to The Sky Crawlers in terms of some effects. The planes even have self-shadowing and some subtle emboss mapping.
I think you can use it (laser) too. But only once you've bought it and the Falken with the money you get from missions.
mikekennyb
Member
Picked this up at Gamestop today. It was the only copy at the store, but I'm not sure if that's because it sold all the other copies or (likely) they only ordered one copy.
Will post impressions once I've spent some time with the game.
Will post impressions once I've spent some time with the game.
Femmeworth
Banned
Does this have a Project Aces logo screen before the title screen? I heard that Assault Horrizon doesn't have one.
Yes, but it's after the Access Games logo, I believe.
Femmeworth
Banned
I didn't know Access Games worked on this. Apparently they worked on Ace Combat X, which I am about to play, too.
Femmeworth
Banned
Sorry for the double post. GameStop's new weekly ad has this for $29.99, new of course.
On another note, I've been playing Ace Combat X. My hands hurt. >_<
On another note, I've been playing Ace Combat X. My hands hurt. >_<
Crazymoogle
Member
:/ The PSP really isn't built for Ace Combat. Will be interesting to see if Vita is more comfortable. I feel kinda spoiled by the 3DS slidepad now.
Femmeworth
Banned
I'm really tempted to try out one of those PSP grips on eBay. Something, anything. :\
Edit: Got a copy of this at GameStop today.
Of course, I can't play it until Christmas.ColonelSkills
Member
I am pleasantly shocked by how much I Like this.
Previous impressions are quite correct. If you were left sour by HD Assault Horizon and have the means to play this, pick it up. It's quite good.
Can't wait to play more, as I'm only 5 hours in, but it is much more AC than I could have hoped, given what we got just a few months ago.
Fucking awesome.
Previous impressions are quite correct. If you were left sour by HD Assault Horizon and have the means to play this, pick it up. It's quite good.
Can't wait to play more, as I'm only 5 hours in, but it is much more AC than I could have hoped, given what we got just a few months ago.
Fucking awesome.
I just ordered it on Amazon yesterday so hopefully it'll be here Monday. This and Nano Assault (And MK7) are going to keep me busy on the 3DS end.
Thanks OP and everyone for the good impressions. I would've likely avoided it if it wasn't for that. Its going to be a blast playing a good AC for a change.
Thanks OP and everyone for the good impressions. I would've likely avoided it if it wasn't for that. Its going to be a blast playing a good AC for a change.
End credits song is the best. I wish somebody would post it on youtube or something. I boot up AC Legacy simply to replay it in the music player.
Rising like the phoenix
From the ashes of the fire
My greatest strength is not your desire
Can I be a champion fair and free
To the end
Defying gravity
From the ashes of the fire
My greatest strength is not your desire
Can I be a champion fair and free
To the end
Defying gravity
Lyrics (Spoiler obviously)
Glad you're enjoying it. The main reason I created this OT was for this reason alone. I figured the majority of people would look at this game and immediately judge it as an inferior port/downgrade to the HD version. With so many blockbuster titles this holiday a game like this was EASILY going to get lost in the shuffle. I'm glad that myself and a few others first adapters were here to shed some light on this title. It really is an awesome Ace Combat game and it's also just one of the best 3DS titles available. =)
kobashi100
Banned
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
I had no idea this was a remake of Ace Combat 2. I really enjoyed that for the PS2.
Mr. Pointy
Member
I just bought this today. It's really good. If you liked X or the PS2 ACs or Sky Crawlers it's worth getting. The only gaping flaw is the lack of multiplayer. There is some minor slowdown, but I've only got it to happen by flying through an explosion.
Femmeworth
Banned
Nothing as bad as X? X overall was fairly smooth, but when the frame rate went south it got pretty bad.
Mr. Pointy
Member
^I always ran my PSP at 333MHz (CFW). Even straight off the UMD, the game ran fine.
In AC2r (I'm not calling it ACAHL), you get some slowdown when there's a large explosion or multiple planes on screen or lots of debris. It's not that bad; the drop isn't slideshow-like, but it's noticeable.
I just beat the story mode once; I'm probably going to go through AC2r again to unlock the path of missions I didn't do. Also, I found it harder to get cash in this game than similarly structured AC games.
In AC2r (I'm not calling it ACAHL), you get some slowdown when there's a large explosion or multiple planes on screen or lots of debris. It's not that bad; the drop isn't slideshow-like, but it's noticeable.
I just beat the story mode once; I'm probably going to go through AC2r again to unlock the path of missions I didn't do. Also, I found it harder to get cash in this game than similarly structured AC games.
ColonelSkills
Member
No where close.
This one does hiccup but I think the amount of times that has happened to me so far can be counted on one hand. It's most certainly not as bad for that as X was.
Seth Balmore
Member
I had no idea this was a remake of Ace Combat 2. Knowing this, the thread title instantly makes sense, heh.
Femmeworth
Banned
I have CFW installed. I should try that, but I pretty much already did all that I want to with X.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
I always wanted to try this games, so people saying that this game is really good, im thinking of picking it up.
As a newbie, are this games usually difficult? Is this one a game that as a new person to the saga can jumpo in, or do I need to learn some backstory or lore?
As a newbie, are this games usually difficult? Is this one a game that as a new person to the saga can jumpo in, or do I need to learn some backstory or lore?
vagabondarts
Member
I am picking this up after Christmas... looks amazing!
JacksUsername
Member
This was the first Ace Combat game I ever played - I may have missed some references, but I had no trouble following the story at all. I actually thought it was pretty barebones - fight the rebels is pretty much it, with some fun dialogue here and there.
The fun really comes from the gameplay; I ended up staying on the normal difficulty for the entire game despite finding the beginning relatively easy. I started having trouble around 10 missions in, where you really need to start understanding the mechanics to do well. A few missions after that is where the game really clicked and I found the rest of the game really easy, but fun. Just actually completed the game on normal this morning, and just started a campaign on hard.
The big negative I have for this game is that the machine guns are pretty much useless until you unlock a propeller plane which costs a ton of money. You'll really only be using missiles for the majority of the game, which is a shame if you're looking for machine gun dog fighting. Not sure if that's how Ace Combat usually goes or is unique to this game because of the fast maneuver features.
Femmeworth
Banned
The effectiveness of the machine gun tends to very from game to game in the series. In Ace Combat 6, it is very useful, since the enemies have a big hit box and go down fast. Of course, that is if you can get the right angle. Also, some planes have better machine guns than others, but there isn't really a way to know until you use them. Ace Combat X, which I just played and shares the same team as this, had a much less useful machine gun due to smaller hit boxes and less effective bullets, oddly enough. Of course, it's worth noting that Ace Combat 6 has far more enemy planes to take down per mission than X. Also there is the customization system, which was in X and this game too?
Since you are new to the series, you might find the normal control method to be odd to use (in order to turn, you have to roll the plane and pull up). Each game usually has some tutorials to ease you in. There is a novice control method that is much simpler if you need it. As for the difficulty, I would say the games are fairly easy once you get used to them, even on the higher difficulties. The story is supposed to be pretty bare bones, so it shouldn't be too confusing. Just know that these games don't typically don't place on our version of Earth, so there are different country names to keep up with.
kobashi100
Banned
Is this a harsh review?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-14-ace-combat-assault-horizon-legacy-review
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-14-ace-combat-assault-horizon-legacy-review
Femmeworth
Banned
The contents of the review don't seem too harsh, but that score sure is. Admittedly, I haven't played the game yet.
I've only played up till stage 6 but so far, I'm really liking it. It's easy, no doubt, but a load of fun. The 3D works extremely well, reminds me a lot of Pilotwings in giving you that sense of awe. And the graphics in the screenshots don't do the game justice, it looks amazing in motion. Its really a shame this game is going to be overlooked.
Anyone wanting it I recommend picking it up.
Anyone wanting it I recommend picking it up.
Crazymoogle
Member
Reads pretty ridiculous to me. Complaints are:
- No MP is unforgiveable (boilerplate game review line)
- Textures look crap close-up (see: any other game in the series)
- 4 hour campaign (number only applies to a reviewer trying to beat the game in 1 evening)
- Hates the close combat button (wants the old games. maybe should try playing AceX)
- Infuriating escort missions (odd he would have trouble, but can again be applied to "4 hour review rush")
The reviewer is welcome to his own opinion, but it comes off as someone who had to marathon the entire game in one go, which would make that person understandably irritable. I can't imagine marathoning even the best of the series.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
I'll never understand the length complaint for these kinds of games. Do people just beat games and ignore unlock lists or something? There is a reason there are multiple difficulty settings, extra missions/paths to unlock and complete, parts and planes to purchase etc. And wouldthese 'bros' who are reviewing the game even PLAY the multiplayer if it was included? Seriously, I love these games to death, but I don't even play much of their multiplayer modes if they are available. Why are they even complaining about the lack of online modes when all they will do is just go back to their CoDs and Battlefields? I don't get it.
Femmeworth
Banned
Amazon has this for $31.37 now. Gah, another week until I can play my copy. >_<
Well, there is legitimacy in the complaint of a lack of multiplayer since the PSP games did. Regardless, it isn't a very good review.