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[3DS] Ace Combat Assault Horizon: Legacy |OT| Better than Ace Combat Assault Horizon

Yagharek

Member
At last, F22 overpowered plane just shit all over that missile. lol
And then came the final mission, holy mother of god, so epic. The mission, the music...
And then the credits WOW
Im having goosebumps.
One of the best 3DS games you can get right now.
Beat the main story in 10 hours, and now I have to beat all the extra missions and stuff. I know is a bit steep in price in europe, but its really that great, I recommend it.

Are all the rest of ace combats like this?
Becuase this one was amazing and epic.
I know Zero has amazing music but does the story of the other ace combats feel as good as this one?



Thanks!

It's possible to do the last mission with a slower plane (I used an FA-18E) so long as you stay to the right.
 

PKrockin

Member
I never would have given this game a second look if not for these impressions. I've never played this type of game before, and I'm not usually one for replaying stages for high scores. You guys have really got me interested in trying it out though.

I'll rent it from Gamefly to be safe, and post impressions later.
 

sfried

Member
4 hours in, and game just get better. So happy I bought it.
See, we told you! I payed full price thikning it might have been a mistake, but a couple of minutes turning to hours playing it convinced me otherwise.

It's a solid title, with very poor to nonexistant marketing. For once GAF can do it favours by hyping it up as "a very good Ace Combat game".
 
After having beat the main story (9 hours), im starting to play a lot with the extra missions, getting up ranks, finding the ace pilots in every stage, survival missions, unlocking, buying and using new planes and changing their pieces (i didnt use them in story missions at firss as I didnt know how they would help, but now im adiccted to trying new things for each plane), and starting a new story mode+ in difficult to get the rest of the stages.
And thtas without counting the achievments that are really difficult.

Im 15 hours now and its really fun and addictive.
One of the best games for 3DS (and I have 8 3DS games), if you are in the fence buy it, because its incredible.

Also the music and sound is the best of the whole system.
 
How many total missions are there?

22 missions in story mode. (need to beat it two times to get all the missions, and also theres different dialogs depending of one of the two wingmans you choose in the majority of missions).

And then theres survival missions (survive 100 planes for example) and Extra Missions (are the same as story mode but much more difficult because you have a very small amount of missiles and special missiles, and usually only 30% of defense and 1 minute, depending of the mission. Shooting special planes give you more missiles, time and shield).
Survival and Extra Missions change the music for the stages to Ace Combat 2 music.
I dont know whats the number of this missions, as you unlock them in a different way than story ones.

Only the story mode for me (the first time) was something like 9 hours.
 

Luigiv

Member
It depends on how the shipping costs.

I've been trying to work that out as well. A 3DS game case (with all innards inside) weighs about 100g. Can't imaging that being too pricey to ship but I don't now where to look to find a quote.


Fake edit: Hmm, to send a <250g package from Australia to the UK costs $12.50 (about 8 quid). If prices on the reverse are the same, then that would pretty much cancel out the savings I'd get compared to importing from ozgameshop instead.

Don't worry it then. Thanks for the offer though.


Real Edit: Ah found Royal Mail's pricing. <3 Quid. Not bad, not bad at all.

If you're still interested in helping me out, then give send me a PM and we can work out the details. If not, thanks anyway.
 

GeekyDad

Member
Look forward to renting it. Never actually played a game in this series, and Star Fox 3D was a disappointment for me.
 
I was assuming the Circle Pad Pro would work with this as the Japanese version 'Ace Combat Cross Rumble' is said to be supported

I haven't found a definitive answer about the eu/us version of the game but read this from someone on gamefaq saying they couldn't get it to work

Has anybody here tried the game with the attachment?
 
Bought this last week and I've just sank some time into it after SM3DL. I've dabbled with the series before but for some reason I'm really stuck on mission 11. I'm probably pushing forward a bit too much I think - should I be sticking with the large plane rather than attacking? Feels like he's about blown up by the time I get to him. Plus the enemy aircraft seem really difficult to hit with anything other than the maneuvre. Any tips?

And also - how does touch screen targeting work?


EDIT: Just did it by switching out the controls from classic. My failure was mostly due to being unable to keep fighters in the reticule. You do have to keep them locked on, right?
 
EDIT: Just did it by switching out the controls from classic. My failure was mostly due to being unable to keep fighters in the reticule. You do have to keep them locked on, right?

Yeah they have to be locked on and within range in order for you to do any damage.
Try doing maneuvers and stuff to keep them in sight.
 

PKrockin

Member
I started with the classic controls since nobody seemed to like the default, but I found classic controls really hard. I would be tailing a plane and trying to gun him down, but he moves off to the right slightly so I'd have to spend like a whole second rolling so I can aim right, then I'd aim right too much so I'd spend another second rolling left so I can aim left, but then he's moved again, etc. Once I switched to default the game became so much easier. Maybe it's just because I haven't played an AC game before.

Why do people like classic controls? Is there a reason besides being able to barrel roll like a boss?

As far as the game goes, it's pretty fun. Doing evasive rolls and blowing the crap out of everything is really satisfying. The graphics technically aren't amazing but it looks very good on a small screen in 3D. The music and sound effects are great, especially with headphones. I find myself watching the post-mission replay a lot. I'm up to the jamming aircraft at night mission and it's been pretty easy so far. I'm sure it'll ramp up though.
 
Forgot to update this thread. So I beat the main story missions at 5 hours. Uh, pretty short. Still have the extra missions and such to beat. I dont think I will though. Short game? Yes. Worth the price of admission? Yes. I dont regret the purchase.
 
I started with the classic controls since nobody seemed to like the default, but I found classic controls really hard. I would be tailing a plane and trying to gun him down, but he moves off to the right slightly so I'd have to spend like a whole second rolling so I can aim right, then I'd aim right too much so I'd spend another second rolling left so I can aim left, but then he's moved again, etc. Once I switched to default the game became so much easier. Maybe it's just because I haven't played an AC game before.

Why do people like classic controls? Is there a reason besides being able to barrel roll like a boss?

As far as the game goes, it's pretty fun. Doing evasive rolls and blowing the crap out of everything is really satisfying. The graphics technically aren't amazing but it looks very good on a small screen in 3D. The music and sound effects are great, especially with headphones. I find myself watching the post-mission replay a lot. I'm up to the jamming aircraft at night mission and it's been pretty easy so far. I'm sure it'll ramp up though.
They are more realistic.
 
I think I just used standard controls for my complete run. You're basically playing at a penalty by using a standard controller instead of a flight stick, so I don't mind.
 
Is this a Nintendo exclusive or there are info on a possible Vita release?

Im considering of buying a 3ds just for this bad boy.
 

Salaadin

Member
Is this a Nintendo exclusive or there are info on a possible Vita release?

Im considering of buying a 3ds just for this bad boy.

I was just thinking about how much Id love a good, portable, dual stick AC game.

Threads like this are the reason I love gaf so much. "Ace Combat 3DS" just sounds unappealing to me but I trusted the opinions in this thread (and other 3ds recommendation threads) and bought it on Sunday. Its definitely one of my top 3DS games. Ive been wanting to play an action flight game for a while now and this is just what I needed. Its also designed nicely for the 3DS...easy to pick up and play for short bursts or long runs. And that music. So good.

I really should get back into the series. I bought and loved AC4 for the PS2 and then got the AC5/Hori Flightstick 2 bundle but that was it. I loved those games.

How are the recent 360/PS3 AC games? Reviews seem back and forth but they were for this game too so what good are they.
 

XPE

Member
Is this a Nintendo exclusive or there are info on a possible Vita release?

Im considering of buying a 3ds just for this bad boy.

It’s a really good game to buy if you already own the system, I don’t know if I would go out and buy a 3DS for it.
 

tsab

Member
I started with the classic controls since nobody seemed to like the default, but I found classic controls really hard. I would be tailing a plane and trying to gun him down, but he moves off to the right slightly so I'd have to spend like a whole second rolling so I can aim right, then I'd aim right too much so I'd spend another second rolling left so I can aim left, but then he's moved again, etc. Once I switched to default the game became so much easier. Maybe it's just because I haven't played an AC game before.

Why do people like classic controls? Is there a reason besides being able to barrel roll like a boss?

As far as the game goes, it's pretty fun. Doing evasive rolls and blowing the crap out of everything is really satisfying. The graphics technically aren't amazing but it looks very good on a small screen in 3D. The music and sound effects are great, especially with headphones. I find myself watching the post-mission replay a lot. I'm up to the jamming aircraft at night mission and it's been pretty easy so far. I'm sure it'll ramp up though.

press left or right on dpad for yaw control if your target is moved slightly (classic controls)
 
Is this a Nintendo exclusive or there are info on a possible Vita release?

Im considering of buying a 3ds just for this bad boy.
If the Vita gets an Ace Combat, it'll more likely be a new game.

If you're a gigantic AC fanboy, it's worth it. If not, I'd probably get a SM3DL or Zelda bundle and this.

I'm going to say AC3DS is on par with the PS2 games. It's got a short campaign, though all AC games have short campaigns, but if you like getting S-ranks it'll last you a while.
 
Is this a Nintendo exclusive or there are info on a possible Vita release?

Im considering of buying a 3ds just for this bad boy.
No word on if they are considering anything at the moment. I think it's safe to assume that they will not port this one to the Vita. Regardless, the next portable Ace Combat is most likely going to have DLC. :\

Edit: I finally played the first mission. :D However, I noticed frame rate issues in the first mission. :\ Damn it, Acquire Games.
 
Games TM scored this 4 out of 10 apparently, while giving the 360/PS3 version an 8.

Which is exactly the opposite of how I would rate them.
 

PKrockin

Member
Games TM scored this 4 out of 10 apparently, while giving the 360/PS3 version an 8.

Which is exactly the opposite of how I would rate them.

what the balls

Coincidentally I just came to the conclusion a few minutes ago that AC: Assault Horizon Legacy is better than Star Fox 64 3D.
 
Bought this last week and I've just sank some time into it after SM3DL. I've dabbled with the series before but for some reason I'm really stuck on mission 11. I'm probably pushing forward a bit too much I think - should I be sticking with the large plane rather than attacking? Feels like he's about blown up by the time I get to him. Plus the enemy aircraft seem really difficult to hit with anything other than the maneuvre. Any tips?

This is where I'm stuck too.

I hate escort missions >:0

edit: Beat it! :D

Ok, where can I buy this soundtrack?!? Seriously awesome stuff
 
Just in case anybody else wanted to know,

The Circle Pad Pro does not work with AC:Assault Horizon Legacy,

when the CPP was anounced it had been said to work with the Japanese release of the game (Ace Combat 3D: Cross Rumble)

I believe thats why some people assumed it would also work with AC:AHL.
 

Luigiv

Member
Just got the game. Played through the first 3 missions. Man this game is so much easier to play in cockpit view than 3rd person view (with classic style controls).

On thing I've noticed is that the HUD lacks a level gauge. Is that true of all the aircrafts or just the F-16?
 

Anteo

Member
Just got the game. Played through the first 3 missions. Man this game is so much easier to play in cockpit view than 3rd person view (with classic style controls).

On thing I've noticed is that the HUD lacks a level gauge. Is that true of all the aircrafts or just the F-16?

The hud doesnt change at all. Unless some of the more expensive aricraft have some sort of extra HUD (I'm missing like 4 or 5, the more expensive ones)
 

gkryhewy

Member
Just picked this up for 29.99 at bestbuy.com -- first deal I've seen on this title in awhile (seems to have had a small print run), so I figured I'd share.
 

Luigiv

Member
Just got the Super Hornet last night. All I can really say is; Fuck yeah! If the Super Hornet is this much of a beast then the Eurofighter, F-22 and JSF must be godly. Can't wait to unlock them.
 

PKrockin

Member
I liked the Super Hornet too. Then I got the F-22 and realized the Super Hornet is like the F-22 for babbies. :p

Surprisingly the propeller planes are good too. It seems like their guns are much more powerful.
 

OmegaZero

Member
I've never gotten the Circle Pad Pro to work with this. I'm starting to think it's supported only by the JP version, since there's no option to change to CPP controls or detect it.
EDIT: Whoops. Beaten. Oh well, I guess you could count the above as chiming in on a confirmation or something.

Also, Tomcat all the way. B-)
(occasionally uses the PAK-FA, F-22, XFA-27 and FALKEN).
 

Kerub

Banned
The Hellcat is awesome! :D

And the game is great too, finished it on normal and on the last mission on hard now.
 
I rented this from Lovefilm this weekend, and while I'm only up to Mission 10 I've really enjoyed it so far. I really like the evade and counter manoeuvres - and while the story is nothing special, the dogfights with enemy squadrons and mystery fighters (ZOE) are cool...

What were peoples' complaints about Assault Horizon? Because in all the trailers it looks fucking awesome... I did play the demo at EuroGamer last year, and enjoyed my time with it, but I didn't do many levels. So if that's not worth picking up, what's the next best game that plays a bit like this? I gather this is based heavily on Ace Combat 2, being almost a remake of sorts, but looking at footage of that game - it looks much longer in the tooth, so what's the best one to try on consoles? Should I try Assault Horizon, or go to AC6 or something?

I'd love to see them do another one and maybe up the graphics ante a bit. This one looks fine, it looks great even in replays -- but with some volumetric clouds a la Kid Icarus or something, some normal mapping and metal shading - they could make a shit hot looking AC game for 3DS imo.


I like how all the Bandai Namco games have toys in little cases for their game icon on the home menu. Ridge Racer has a model car in a case and this has one of the fighter jets... its a nice touch of self-imposed consistency across their products.

Does anyone else feel that for under-appreciated games like this, it kind of sucks that the threads are left to die in the community forum?
 
What were peoples' complaints about Assault Horizon? Because in all the trailers it looks fucking awesome... I did play the demo at EuroGamer last year, and enjoyed my time with it, but I didn't do many levels. So if that's not worth picking up, what's the next best game that plays a bit like this? I gather this is based heavily on Ace Combat 2, being almost a remake of sorts, but looking at footage of that game - it looks much longer in the tooth, so what's the best one to try on consoles? Should I try Assault Horizon, or go to AC6 or something?

ACH is:

a) Not in Strangereal, it's another earth scenario game
b) Some helicopter missions
c) The maneuver system is visually somewhat similar to AHL but not not as user friendly and with a variety of pre-scripted moments, which also leads to...
d) ...That the game is much more "Call of Duty" than the rest of the series. Lots of pre-scripted moments. Which means at times it's breathtaking, and at other times you'll chafe heavily against the rails.

I think it was the right move overall - those rail moments got a lot of attention for the series - but work needs to be done to reduce repetition and not make it so rigid. Losing Strangereal also has done the series no favors. They should be taking players deeper into the fiction of the series, not dumbing it down more. (Doesn't seem to hurt Halo, for instance...)

I think both games are worth playing but each of them has their own playstyle that differs from the rest of the series.

ACH: COD style moments, rail-sequences, helicopters (nonsense earth story)
AC6: Large-scale missions with lots of landing/takeoff (nonsense strangereal story)
 

Luigiv

Member
Beat the campaign once, half way through my second play through. The final mission was great though I'm a little disappointed that the ZOE mystery didn't go anywhere, felt a bit anticlimactic.

In other developments, I'm glad to see the F-22 and Hellcat don't disappoint. I wonder what other Propeller planes are available (hopefully the Zero and Spitfire). I would also like to say that Extra Mission 03 is fucking awesome.

And to quote myself.

On thing I've noticed is that the HUD lacks a level gauge. Is that true of all the aircrafts or just the F-16?

I finally found the level gauge HUD element about a minute ago. It's only available in HUD view. Lame!
 
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