X1 + vmoda boom mic. The sound quality will put the g4me to shame.
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X1 + vmoda boom mic. The sound quality will put the g4me to shame.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004L6C6BK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
is this really worth it necessary?
now to look for mic options with the X1 ;/
is this really worth it necessary?
now to look for mic options with the X1 ;/
PC? I don't think the mixamp would be necessary. Something like that might be needed for the console though. I don't have any experience with headphones on a console.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BJ17WKK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
That's the mic I use with my X1. It works wonderfully.
hmm how do you plug it for PC?
Plug what? The headphone? It goes into the headphone jack on the soundcard/motherboard.
PjotrStroganov
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Tbh, I still haven't ordered it. Amazon has a nice price but automatically adds an import fee deposit. And this for a product that probably won't even be touched by customs. If anyone know a good place that offers it for below 30 euro's...
Sweet. Thanks man! I passed them along and I'll let you know how it goes.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Uuuugggh
I'm having trouble justifying spending more than $20 on IEMs. My Monoprice 8320s have served me well.
The Tenores are pretty cheap all things considered, well at least for the UK. It cost me £32, which is the price of fairly low end IEMs. Definitely worth the money for me.
Is the cable on the BoomPro's any good? Im worried it could be cheap/bad quality.
I did a little informal comparisons between the stock cable and the boompro and if anything it improved.
As far as the mic, the guys I game with said if anything I was clearer than I used to be with my Sennheiser headset.
aparisi2274
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Anyone use/own/owned/tried the Audio Technica ANC7b NC headphones?? Most reviews say they are pretty good, with some sound leak issues, but my main concern is with the NC features...
Thanks
Thanks
sorry lol
I don't really care about them being top of the line, just something that's comfortable for if I go running/working out and wanna listen to some music/podcasts
A lot of earbuds are uncomfortable as hell so that's my main concern. I've had friends tell me skullcandy are comfortable but i disagree
Looking for quality earphones. Comfort is my first priority, I took a glance at the list in the OP but there are a lot there for someone who knows next to nothing about them. I figure I'm willing to spend up to $150ish if it means they will sit well in my ears and be comfortable.
Any help you guys can provide would be appreciated.
Any help you guys can provide would be appreciated.
Carbo Tenore
That was a fairly definitive answer. Ordered.
I'd have also suggested the T Peos Altone200, but maybe it's best you go with something a bit cheaper that's also a tremendous value, as you might not even notice the potentially miniscule improvements
Scroll down for an extensive review http://www.head-fi.org/t/694003/d-marc0s-journal-my-head-fi-journey-new-t-peos-altone-200-review/465
Scroll down for an extensive review http://www.head-fi.org/t/694003/d-marc0s-journal-my-head-fi-journey-new-t-peos-altone-200-review/465
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
Member
My friend Unity is sending his Altones off on a review tour. He seems to note a 4 kHz spike on his pair, which... doesn't sit well with me since I can't stand any sort of resonance at that frequency. We'll see though, he returned his pair to TPEOS and got another pair back cause he noted that the bass was kinda anemic on that first pair, so maybe it was a lemon. Both pairs have been sent out to Tyll for impressions and measurement so we'll get some interesting answers soon. Then the phones will make their way through a whole bevy of hard asses so we'll see whether they're all hype or genuinely good.
That aside, I've also sent off my Rockets off to a buncha guys I trust for evaluation, so they'll outline the good and the bad. Of particular interest is whether GnarlSagan and LuisDent will find them to be up to snuff with their beloved Tenore/ER4S (LOL). They'll run em through the grinder for sure
That aside, I've also sent off my Rockets off to a buncha guys I trust for evaluation, so they'll outline the good and the bad. Of particular interest is whether GnarlSagan and LuisDent will find them to be up to snuff with their beloved Tenore/ER4S (LOL). They'll run em through the grinder for sure
sixteen-bit
Member
saw a bro at the gym with Senn IE800s
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
GAF, I need your help. I'm in the market for a new set of headphones. I'm upgrading from a pair of solo Beats.
Price range is $150-200. Was looking for something maybe through Bose, but I dunno how good they actually are. Would prefer something either on-ear.
I'm not really looking for anything other than good standard sound quality.
Thanks!
Price range is $150-200. Was looking for something maybe through Bose, but I dunno how good they actually are. Would prefer something either on-ear.
I'm not really looking for anything other than good standard sound quality.
Thanks!
Heya Headphone-GAF.
TL;DR:
I need some sound-isloating IEMs under $150, and after some looking around, it seems that the RHA MA750 might be my best bet. Opinions? Alternatives? Crazy sales I don't know about?
Longer:
I'm in the market for some sound-isolating IEMs that aren't quite budget, but aren't quite high-end. I travel a lot, and when I do travel, I end up walking and/or taking public transport a lot. All of that means, sound isolation would be great, even if it means sacrificing a bit on the sound quality.
For reference, my daily pair of cans are a set of Sennheiser HD580s I've had for around 5 years now. I don't know if I'm just used to them, or if I just happened upon a perfect sound for me, but after trying a bunch of high end phones over the years, the HD600s are probably my next big buy, as I do tend to prefer a set of cans that are almost completely neutral. I tend to listen to a really wide array of music, even in the same sitting, so headphones that tend to be more sparkly, or bass heavy tend to favor one genre or another, which often makes me alternate between pleased and annoyed as my playlist gets shuffled around.
As mentioned above, it seems like the RHA MA750 fit the bill, and they won't break the bank at $129 on Amazon. Anyone have any other IEMs they think I should take a look at, that might fit my style?
Thanks!
TL;DR:
I need some sound-isloating IEMs under $150, and after some looking around, it seems that the RHA MA750 might be my best bet. Opinions? Alternatives? Crazy sales I don't know about?
Longer:
I'm in the market for some sound-isolating IEMs that aren't quite budget, but aren't quite high-end. I travel a lot, and when I do travel, I end up walking and/or taking public transport a lot. All of that means, sound isolation would be great, even if it means sacrificing a bit on the sound quality.
For reference, my daily pair of cans are a set of Sennheiser HD580s I've had for around 5 years now. I don't know if I'm just used to them, or if I just happened upon a perfect sound for me, but after trying a bunch of high end phones over the years, the HD600s are probably my next big buy, as I do tend to prefer a set of cans that are almost completely neutral. I tend to listen to a really wide array of music, even in the same sitting, so headphones that tend to be more sparkly, or bass heavy tend to favor one genre or another, which often makes me alternate between pleased and annoyed as my playlist gets shuffled around.
As mentioned above, it seems like the RHA MA750 fit the bill, and they won't break the bank at $129 on Amazon. Anyone have any other IEMs they think I should take a look at, that might fit my style?
Thanks!
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
Member
The Tenore is a better phone than the RHA 750i for much less money:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/665111/zer...ion-and-impressions-thread/1935#post_10580116
And yes, it is a neutral sounding phone
http://www.head-fi.org/t/665111/zer...ion-and-impressions-thread/1935#post_10580116
And yes, it is a neutral sounding phone
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
?
For on ear, go with the V-MODA XSs, They sound pretty good and make you feel like such an informed buyer as you pass by the ignorant masses who compulsively bought their low-fi Bose equivalents. Win-win.
If by neutral you mean "rolled off treble" then yes, I agree.
An even better phone still in the price range, with a much less polarizing tonal balance, is the Vsonic GR07.
nhlducks35
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Here are some shots I took at the LA meet yesterday
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nhlducks35/sets/72157646325585685/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nhlducks35/sets/72157646325585685/
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
Member
Polarizing tonal balance you say?
GR07MKII:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/552132/vsonic-gr07-impressions-impressions-thread/4110#post_8741985
Zero Audio Tenore:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/665111/zer...ion-and-impressions-thread/1155#post_10529863
If the Tenore isn't neutral I don't know what is. It's one of the most linear dynamic phones out there. The GR07 MKII on the other hand, well, you can see the upper midrange suckout and treble peaks plain as day, if you don't hear them first. I had the MKII, it was a pretty good phone at the time, but it's just dimensionally flat in staging, and thin sounding next to the Tenore. The Tenore also sounds smooth at any volume. When I said that the Tenore is comparable to the UERM in ways, I meant it.
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
Not sure about those FR charts, they certainly don't match what I hear. The ones available at effin ringin seem closer to reality;
Tenore
GR07
Ignoring the obvious gap in distortion levels, both seem relatively flat to 2k but the Tenores noticeably drop off in the highs. From my experience details aren't necessarily obscured but just seem distant. There is no sparkle to speak of, which will have a negative impact on a number of genres.
I'm not sure why you keep mentioning the UERMs when attempting to defend the Tenores. What setup do you use? What music do you play? And at what bitrates?
There's so many variables and there's no accounting for taste. I haven't had long listening to the UERMs, but they were almost certainly less veiled and of a far different caliber than the Tenores. The only comparison I can think of is that they both go into your ears.
DamageControl
Member
Hey guys, I need a bit of help. I have my heart set on a pair of Sennheiser Momentum Over Ear headphones. Most of the reviews I've read seem to have a lot of praise for them. However, most of the reviews also mention the rather small earcup size.
Now I've measured my ears today, and they are approx 3 inches in length (from the top most pointed part of the ear down to the bottom of the ear lobe), and about 1.25 inches across in width at the widest part,
Can someone who has some experience with these headphones tell me whether they will be a decent fit for me as there's really no way I can try them where I'm at without buying them. Also, what's the general consensus on this forum on the Momentums sound quality and build wise?
Apologies if this has been covered before in this topic. Thanks.
Now I've measured my ears today, and they are approx 3 inches in length (from the top most pointed part of the ear down to the bottom of the ear lobe), and about 1.25 inches across in width at the widest part,
Can someone who has some experience with these headphones tell me whether they will be a decent fit for me as there's really no way I can try them where I'm at without buying them. Also, what's the general consensus on this forum on the Momentums sound quality and build wise?
Apologies if this has been covered before in this topic. Thanks.
Baconsaurus Rex
Member
Have you ever tried IEMs? I found that they have a tighter and more secure fit than regular ear buds.
Dice//
Banned
Hate them.
Same issue really, I try putting them in and they plop out five minutes later, regardless of whatever size the silicone[?] insert was.
I had sort of skimmed over the Tenores in my research, and I saw conflicting reports. A lot of people loved them, but some mentioned impressions that sounded non-neutral-y to me.
That being said, these will probably be an alternate/travel pair to my usual open-air cans, which I normally prefer as I like to hear the people around me if I'm just lounging. And at under $60, it's a low risk proposition.
I went for them. Should be here on Wednesday. That should give them some break-in time before my PAX trip at the end of the month. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
Thanks for the help everyone!
That being said, these will probably be an alternate/travel pair to my usual open-air cans, which I normally prefer as I like to hear the people around me if I'm just lounging. And at under $60, it's a low risk proposition.
I went for them. Should be here on Wednesday. That should give them some break-in time before my PAX trip at the end of the month. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
Thanks for the help everyone!
br0ken_shad0w
Member
Thank you, you gave me a set of headphones to keep an eye out down the road. =)
Paid 300 for them. I'm absolutely not expecting anything stellar in the musical field, it's completely for a total HC use.
There are a lot of glowing reviews on the web concerning their comfort, the spacialisation, and the sound in movies/games.
Did you try one ? Or is it just a feeling ?
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
Member
Yeah I gave Hix's post some thought and he's right. There are too many issues with QC at the moment to in good conscience recommend the Tenore til Zero Audio gets their act together. Everything from elevated bass, to downward sloping treble, to intermittent driver failure. I'm just glad K. Jack and a few others seemed to have lucked out. I came across a post where LuisDent ordered 5 or 6 pairs of Tenores and not even the cable length is uniform :l
Yeah, in all respects it seemed like a bit of a roll of the dice. But for $60, and most of that was rewards credit on my Discover card... I'll live if they're not perfect. At the very least, I'll report back when they get here.
Man i was working on some detailed write up, I chose a list of songs to A/B between the Momentum and HP50, had the notepad for taking notes and everything. I got half way through and realized... what's the point?
In short, the HP50 just does everything better. The biggest issues I have with the Momentum are:
1. Bass is nice, but it delivers more than the song is calling for; it doesn't get out of the way fast enough (decay), while encroaching on the mids. It just spills over and is sloppy.
2. Mids are congested. More on this below in the song example.
3. Highs get swallowed by the mids at times. To be fair, there are instances where the Senns' have that nicer bit of sparkle to the vocals, but the problem is that the vocalist is in the wrong place. The image I always get is a person who's stuck halfway in to a pit of quicksand (mids) fighting to be heard. You sound nice but you're stuck in some muddy shit bro. Put on the HP50, and the dude pulled himself out of the muck In short, the vocals should not have to contest with the mids.
Take a song such as James Blake - A Case Of You. When I listen to this one in the HP50, I close my eyes and I can just see it perfectly: James is sitting at the piano, playing while singing into a microphone. And his voice is actually above the piano keys because of the way he's sitting and singing up into the mic. With the Momentum, his vocals and the piano riffs are closer to the same level, like they're being crammed together in a tighter space. Neither element gets to shine on its own, and the song loses the ethereal sense of air between each component.
Soundstage, imaging, etc: The best way I can describe the overall effect of the Senns, is that they create a "wall of sound". I find myself confused, unable to pick out placement of the different elements where they're supposed to be. Ya know, I heard this "wall of sound" complaint a couple times before I bought them, but I was swayed by the glowing praise some unnamed headphone review sites were giving the cans. On the other hand, the staging of the HP50s is just natural to my ears. They don't really place things, they simply present the arrangement as it's meant to be. I've had some surreal moments where I close my eyes and it's like virtual reality, the way I can see and feel where everything is. Like in the James Black example above, I started to feel exactly how far from his mouth the piano keys were. Since i bought them, I haven't had one of these moments with the Momentum; everything is just front and center, boring.
For the rest of my fellow Hip-Hop heads: The two headphones might be equal, to my ears. No, the HP50 does boom not like the Momentum. What I came to realize is that the HP50's bass extends much further than the Momentum (seriously the sub bass is so good), and it's much cleaner, honest bass. If the song booms, the HP50 booms, but if the bass is more reserved, you'll hear it that way. In this genre, the wall of sound image is strong with the Sennheisers. Rappers are smothered in the Senn mids. It's really syrupy.
Conclusion: NAD Viso HP50 is clearly the superior set, and is for hose who really want to be there while they listen. The staging, layering, imagery are the best I've heard from a closed set, in the $250-$300 price range. Without a doubt they are worth the $50 premium over the Momentum. There were times where the Senns were a bit more "lively", but I was quickly distracted by its presentation failing in the technicalities.
So that's it. The Sennheiser was a large upgrade over the AiAIAI TMA-1, and I feel going from them to the HP50 was a similar jump in quality.
Questions? Comments? Anything I missed? Want to call me crazy? Want to buy my Momentum? Feel free to respond.
p.s. - I didn't get into the whole Room Feel™ technology, what is there to say. The HP50 is a better open headphone than my HiFiMan HE-300. Kind of weird to say that about closed-back headphones.
In short, the HP50 just does everything better. The biggest issues I have with the Momentum are:
1. Bass is nice, but it delivers more than the song is calling for; it doesn't get out of the way fast enough (decay), while encroaching on the mids. It just spills over and is sloppy.
2. Mids are congested. More on this below in the song example.
3. Highs get swallowed by the mids at times. To be fair, there are instances where the Senns' have that nicer bit of sparkle to the vocals, but the problem is that the vocalist is in the wrong place. The image I always get is a person who's stuck halfway in to a pit of quicksand (mids) fighting to be heard. You sound nice but you're stuck in some muddy shit bro. Put on the HP50, and the dude pulled himself out of the muck In short, the vocals should not have to contest with the mids.
Take a song such as James Blake - A Case Of You. When I listen to this one in the HP50, I close my eyes and I can just see it perfectly: James is sitting at the piano, playing while singing into a microphone. And his voice is actually above the piano keys because of the way he's sitting and singing up into the mic. With the Momentum, his vocals and the piano riffs are closer to the same level, like they're being crammed together in a tighter space. Neither element gets to shine on its own, and the song loses the ethereal sense of air between each component.
Soundstage, imaging, etc: The best way I can describe the overall effect of the Senns, is that they create a "wall of sound". I find myself confused, unable to pick out placement of the different elements where they're supposed to be. Ya know, I heard this "wall of sound" complaint a couple times before I bought them, but I was swayed by the glowing praise some unnamed headphone review sites were giving the cans. On the other hand, the staging of the HP50s is just natural to my ears. They don't really place things, they simply present the arrangement as it's meant to be. I've had some surreal moments where I close my eyes and it's like virtual reality, the way I can see and feel where everything is. Like in the James Black example above, I started to feel exactly how far from his mouth the piano keys were. Since i bought them, I haven't had one of these moments with the Momentum; everything is just front and center, boring.
For the rest of my fellow Hip-Hop heads: The two headphones might be equal, to my ears. No, the HP50 does boom not like the Momentum. What I came to realize is that the HP50's bass extends much further than the Momentum (seriously the sub bass is so good), and it's much cleaner, honest bass. If the song booms, the HP50 booms, but if the bass is more reserved, you'll hear it that way. In this genre, the wall of sound image is strong with the Sennheisers. Rappers are smothered in the Senn mids. It's really syrupy.
Conclusion: NAD Viso HP50 is clearly the superior set, and is for hose who really want to be there while they listen. The staging, layering, imagery are the best I've heard from a closed set, in the $250-$300 price range. Without a doubt they are worth the $50 premium over the Momentum. There were times where the Senns were a bit more "lively", but I was quickly distracted by its presentation failing in the technicalities.
So that's it. The Sennheiser was a large upgrade over the AiAIAI TMA-1, and I feel going from them to the HP50 was a similar jump in quality.
Questions? Comments? Anything I missed? Want to call me crazy? Want to buy my Momentum? Feel free to respond.
p.s. - I didn't get into the whole Room Feel™ technology, what is there to say. The HP50 is a better open headphone than my HiFiMan HE-300. Kind of weird to say that about closed-back headphones.
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