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[GK86]

Is there a live stream of this? And how many hours until then

Edit:Beaten

If you guys are in NY, Boston, Atlanta, Houston, Miami, or Salt Lake City area, you could use Aereo to stream it. 30 day trial so don't have to shell out money for it.

 

[rekameohs]

Gyp in boardwalk deserves the Emmy over the supporting performances in breaking bad this season

Jesse and Mike were nothing special in season 5 part 1

I disagree in that Aaron Paul was fantastic in "Buyout", which is what he submitted. In that episode, he went through more emotional range than he's really given in one episode in the series, with anger in the intro with Todd, sadness in the news report scene, and humor in the dinner scene. It even gave us this!

Not saying that he should be a clear winner or anything, just saying that Aaron put good work in the limited appearances he had in Season 5, pt 1.

 

[iammeiam]

These awards should set some records of some kind.
Cranston needs to win this year to tie for most Best Actor, then win again next year to beat it. If Paul wins, he'd have the most Best Supporting Actor (he's already tied.) If John Hamm loses, he'll have the most Best Actor nominations without a win. If Mad Men takes best drama, it'll hold the record. Mad Men's record of most nominations without a single win is no longer in jeopardy, as American Horror Story won one of its 17 nominations.

Kind of pulling for Kerry Washington a little.

 

[Toa TAK]

"Yeah I'm definitely going to skip the penultimate episode of Breaking Bad tonight and watch this instead"

- no one

Yup, poor scheduling there.

Hopefully BrBa will bring home everything. But if it doesn't, here's hoping that House of Cards gets some in as well.

 

[Mononoke]

I actually agree about Aaron Paul. The first part of Season 5 didn't give him a lot of stuff to work with compared to 3 and 4. I don't think anything he did in this half was worth winning again. Now..the second half of Season 5 has some of his best work to date.

I would like to see Jonathan Banks win though.

 

[Jitters]

All I want is for Jon Hamm and Emilia Clarke to win.

 

[KdoubleA]

All I want is for Jon Hamm and Emilia Clarke to win.

Emilia Clarke is really great in GoT but this season's nomination should've went to Michelle Fairley instead. She killed it in "that" scene.

 

[BertramCooper]

All I want is for Jon Hamm and Emilia Clarke to win.

I gotcha on the former, but the latter? I like Clarke, but her winning over Gunn and Hendricks would be a travesty.

That nom should have been Fairley's.

 

[Mononoke]

I don't think Hamm is that great. I've actually thought him losing at the Emmy's every year was spot on. He didn't deserve it over the others.

 

[jtb]

the guy who played Russo on House of Cards didn't get a nom? He was more impressive than Spacey, I thought, but he doesn't have star power I guess.

I don't think Hamm is that great. I've actually thought him losing at the Emmy's every year was spot on. He didn't deserve it over the others.

I think he is (and has been) more deserving than Cranston. Even when the quality of Mad Men has dipped, he's remained excellent in my book.

 

[Mononoke]

the guy who played Russo on House of Cards didn't get a nom? He was more impressive than Spacey, I thought, but he doesn't have star power I guess.



I think he is (and has been) more deserving than Cranston. Even when the quality of Mad Men has dipped, he's remained excellent in my book.

You are crazy. Unless you mean for this season he's nominated for, then I would agree. The first half of Season 5 didn't really give Cranston or Paul material to be a guaranteed win. But overall, Hamm has never been close to Cranston, nor has the character of Draper been as good as Walter White or even Brody (Season One of Homeland).

Hamm is a very good and consistent actor. But he's never been above and beyond the best in this category.

 

[Samuray]

Is there a live stream of this? And how many hours until then

I would like to know, too!
Can I watch from Gernany? Preferably on an iPad?

 

[jtb]

You are crazy. Unless you mean for this season he's nominated for, then I would agree. The first half of Season 5 didn't really give Cranston or Paul material to be a guaranteed win. But overall, Hamm has never been close to Cranston, nor has the character of Draper been as good as Walter White or even Brody (Season One of Homeland).

Hamm is a very good and consistent actor. But he's never been above and beyond the best in this category.

I like Cranston a lot (it's pretty hard to dislike him lol) but I find Walter White to be a little too caricature-y and over the top to be as compelling a character or performance as Draper or even, dare I say it, Brody. (And agreed, S1 only lol) It's definitley a very show-y performance. My stance on Walt is a bit like DDL in There Will Be Blood, which I also don't love as much as everyone else, I suppose.

 

[Matt_]

I wonder if Maggie Smith will make it three years in a row for supporting actress

 

[Memento Mori]

Doubtful. Critics HATED season 2.

Did they? The AV Club at least gave every episode either an A or B.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Predictions!

Will win

Should win

Outstanding Drama Series

Homeland - Showtime
House of Cards - Netflix
Breaking Bad - AMC
Downton Abbey - PBS
Game Of Thrones - HBO
Mad Men - AMC

Outstanding Lead Actor In A Drama Series

Hugh Bonneville as Robert Crawley, Earl of Grantham on Downton Abbey
Bryan Cranston as Walter White on Breaking Bad
Jeff Daniels as Will McAvoy on The Newsroom
Jon Hamm as Don Draper on Mad Men
Damian Lewis as Nicholas Brody on Homeland
Kevin Spacey as Frank Underwood on House of Cards

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Drama Series

Jonathan Banks as Mike Ehrmantraut on Breaking Bad
Bobby Cannavale as Gyp Rosetti on Boardwalk Empire
Jim Carter as Charles Carson on Downton Abbey
Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister on Game of Thrones
Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman on Breaking Bad
Mandy Patinkin as Saul Berenson on Homeland

Outstanding Lead Actress In A Drama Series

Connie Britton as Rayna Jaymes on Nashville
Claire Danes as Carrie Mathison on Homeland
Michelle Dockery as Lady Mary Crawley on Downton Abbey
Vera Farmiga as Norma Louise Bates on Bates Motel
Elisabeth Moss as Peggy Olson on Mad Men
Kerry Washington as Olivia Pope on Scandal
Robin Wright as Claire Underwood on House of Cards

Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Drama Series

Morena Baccarin as Jessica Brody on Homeland
Christine Baranski as Diane Lockhart on The Good Wife
Emilia Clarke as Daenerys Targaryen on Game of Thrones
Anna Gunn as Skyler White on Breaking Bad
Christina Hendricks as Joan Harris on Mad Men
Maggie Smith as Violet Crawley, Dowager Countess of Grantham on Downton Abbey

Outstanding Comedy Series

30 Rock - NBC
The Big Bang Theory - CBS
Girls - HBO
Louie - FX
Modern Family - ABC
Veep - HBO

Outstanding Lead Actor In A Comedy Series

Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy on 30 Rock
Jason Bateman as Michael Bluth on Arrested Development
Louis C.K. as Louie on Louie
Don Cheadle as Marty Kaan on House of Lies
Matt LeBlanc as Himself on Episodes
Jim Parsons as Dr. Sheldon Cooper on The Big Bang Theory

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Comedy Series

Ty Burrell as Phil Dunphy on Modern Family
Adam Driver as Adam Sackler on Girls
Jesse Tyler Ferguson as Mitchell Pritchett on Modern Family
Tony Hale as Gary Walsh on Veep
Bill Hader as Various Characters on Saturday Night Live
Ed O'Neill as Jay Pritchett on Modern Family

Outstanding Lead Actress In A Comedy Series

Laura Dern as Amy Jellicoe on Enlightened
Lena Dunham as Hannah Horvath on Girls
Edie Falco as Jackie Peyton on Nurse Jackie
Tina Fey as Liz Lemon on 30 Rock
Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Selina Meyer on Veep
Amy Poehler as Leslie Knope on Parks and Recreation

Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Comedy Series

Mayim Bialik as Dr. Amy Farrah Fowler on The Big Bang Theory
Julie Bowen as Claire Dunphy on Modern Family
Anna Chlumsky as Amy Brookheimer on Veep
Jane Krakowski as Jenna Maroney on 30 Rock
Jane Lynch as Sue Sylvester on Glee
Sofía Vergara as Gloria Delgado-Pritchett on Modern Family
Merritt Wever as Zoey Barkow on Nurse Jackie

Outstanding Miniseries or Movie

American Horror Story: Asylum (FX)
Behind the Candelabra (HBO)
The Bible (History)
Phil Spector (HBO)
Political Animals (USA Network)
Top of the Lake (Sundance Channel)

Outstanding Lead Actor in a Miniseries or Movie

Benedict Cumberbatch as Christopher Tietjens on Parade's End
Matt Damon as Scott Thorson on Behind the Candelabra
Michael Douglas as Liberace on Behind the Candelabra
Toby Jones as Alfred Hitchcock on The Girl
Al Pacino as Phil Spector on Phil Spector

Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Miniseries or Movie

Scott Bakula as Bob Black on Behind the Candelabra
James Cromwell as Dr. Arthur Arden / Hans Grüper on American Horror Story: Asylum
John Benjamin Hickey as Sean Tolke on The Big C: Hereafter
Peter Mullan as Matt Mitcham on Top of the Lake
Zachary Quinto as Dr. Oliver Thredson on American Horror Story: Asylum

Outstanding Lead Actress in a Miniseries or Movie

Jessica Lange as Sister Jude / Judy Martin on American Horror Story: Asylum
Laura Linney as Cathy Jamison on The Big C: Hereafter
Helen Mirren as Linda Kenney Baden on Phil Spector
Elisabeth Moss as Det. Robin Griffin on Top of the Lake
Sigourney Weaver as Elaine Barrish Hammond on Political Animals

Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Miniseries or Movie

Ellen Burstyn as Margaret Barrish Worthington on Political Animals
Sarah Paulson as Lana Winters on American Horror Story: Asylum
Charlotte Rampling as Eva Delectorskaya (older) on Restless
Imelda Staunton as Alma Hitchcock on The Girl
Alfre Woodard as Louisa "Ouiser" Boudreaux on Steel Magnolias

Outstanding Variety Series

The Colbert Report (Comedy Central)
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
Jimmy Kimmel Live! (ABC)
Late Night with Jimmy Fallon (NBC)
Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
Saturday Night Live (NBC)

Outstanding Reality - Competition Program

The Amazing Race (CBS)
Dancing with the Stars (ABC)
Project Runway (Lifetime)
So You Think You Can Dance (Fox)
Top Chef (Bravo)
The Voice (NBC)

 

[equippedwithtowel]

Did they? The AV Club at least gave every episode either an A or B.

The Av Club are terrible with ratings. They rate based on a shows popular narrative not the individual quality of episodes.

Also they have a weird anti BBC bias.

 

[BertramCooper]

Did they? The AV Club at least gave every episode either an A or B.

Todd VanDerWerff's Homeland reviews are a hilarious exercise in mental gymnastics.

 

[jtb]

I don't even think critics vote on the Emmys, do they?

 

[Loxley]

Looking at all of the drama nominees, I'm just now realizing that we truly are balls-deep in quality dramas these days. I have no problems with any of the nominees and would be happy if any of them won.

 

[BertramCooper]

Looking at all of the drama nominees, I'm just now realizing that we truly are balls-deep in quality dramas these days. I have no problems with any of the nominees and would be happy if any of them won.

I'd be fine with Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones or House of Cards winning, but not Downton Abbey and especially not Homeland.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I don't even think critics vote on the Emmys, do they?

I don't think so, no.

 

[Mononoke]

What season of Mad Men is nominated? This past season? Or the one before that? I always get them mixed up (the award season deadlines mess with my head).

Looking over the nominees, I actually think Hamm IS the best nominated this year. Although I didn't like this season of Mad Men.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

What season of Mad Men is nominated?

The most recent season.

 

[Matt_]

Do shows often win the same award two years running or is it a similar situation like when they saved all the oscars for the third LOTR?

Because I could see BB missing out on it this year and definitely getting it next year

 

[BertramCooper]

Do shows often win the same award two years running or is it a similar situation like when they saved all the oscars for the third LOTR?

Frequently.

Mad Men won Best Drama four years straight.

 

[Hindle]

Jack Huston deserves an award for his performance as Richard Harrow IMO.

 

[Mononoke]

I like Cranston a lot (it's pretty hard to dislike him lol) but I find Walter White to be a little too caricature-y and over the top to be as compelling a character or performance as Draper or even, dare I say it, Brody. (And agreed, S1 only lol) It's definitley a very show-y performance. My stance on Walt is a bit like DDL in There Will Be Blood, which I also don't love as much as everyone else, I suppose.

I think Walt's characteristics in the first half of Season 5 was over the top (as was kind of the point). But I don't really see where you are coming from with the rest of the seasons. I think Walt is a very measured character, and a lot of his acting is very subtle and incredible. Walt does absolutely have those over the top moments (like Crawl Space), but those moments are totally earned, and I don't view them as cartoony.

I also feel the complexities of Walt, and his growth and change over the seasons is why he's a vastly superior character to Don Draper. Draper has gone through changes, but the writers keep circling around the same things with him, and there hasn't been anything really new with his character in the past 3 seasons. Walter feels like a much more living/breathing character, whereas Draper feels more stagnant in comparison.

 

[bort]

spoilers

Spoiler

homeland and modern family win everything

 

[54-46!]

Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister is considered a supporting actor? wha.

 

[Matt_]

Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister is considered a supporting actor? wha.

I think everyone other than Ned is considered a supporting role, there's just so many stories going on
I do hope he wins though

 

[Milchmann]

No Emmy (nomination) for Tatiana Maslany is a crime.

 

[iammeiam]

I'm predicting at least three jokes about people tuning in/out to watch Breaking Bad during the ceremony. One at the beginning noting that viewership probably just dropped, one in the middle for people tuning in during commercial break, and one at the end welcoming everyone back to the broadcast.

No Emmy (nomination) for Tatiana Maslany is a crime.

On the one hand, yes, on the other hand I bet half the people voting thought her accent was real and occasionally forgot all those characters were the same person acting against herself. She's amazing in the roles, but she's so good and the show is put together well enough that it's not really attention-grabbing. Plus GoT is occupying the 'genre TV we're willing to acknowledge' spot right now.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I disagree in that Aaron Paul was fantastic in "Buyout", which is what he submitted. In that episode, he went through more emotional range than he's really given in one episode in the series, with anger in the intro with Todd, sadness in the news report scene, and humor in the dinner scene. It even gave us this!

Not saying that he should be a clear winner or anything, just saying that Aaron put good work in the limited appearances he had in Season 5, pt 1.

That's the episode he put up?

Give him the fuckin statue for that gif alone.

 

[ivysaur12]

Award shows are circle-jerks by octogenarians whose influence on the industry is often more constraining than enabling.

But I'm still watching. So, I guess that says something.

 

[I'M FINISHED!]

Cable is continuing to curb stomp the Networks in drama. I am glad the Emmys acknowledge the brutality.

 

[dead souls]

What I want to see: 30 Rock and Breaking Bad cleaning up.

What I'm afraid I'll see: House of Cards winning a bunch of stuff. Girls winning anything.

 

[ivysaur12]

Cable is continuing to curb stomp the Networks in drama. I am glad the Emmys acknowledge the brutality.

Scandal and Parenthood are significantly better shows than S2 Homeland or S3 Downton Abbey. So, no.

 

[dead souls]

Scandal and Parenthood are significantly better shows than S2 Homeland or S3 Downton Abbey. So, no.

Haven't watched Scandal, but Parenthood always gets overrated by critics who feel the need to talk up something on broadcast. It's worth watching but often pretty flawed.

 

[I'M FINISHED!]

Scandal and Parenthood are significantly better shows than S2 Homeland or S3 Downton Abbey. So, no.

Two shows that don't even come close to what cable has to offer doesn't change my opinion.

 

[jtb]

Homeland S2 wasn't even that bad. There, I said it.

 

[GK86]

What I want to see: 30 Rock and Breaking Bad cleaning up.

What I'm afraid I'll see: House of Cards winning a bunch of stuff. Girls winning anything.

Why would either of those things be a bad thing?

 

[ivysaur12]

Haven't watched Scandal, but Parenthood always gets overrated by critics who feel the need to talk up something on broadcast. It's worth watching but often pretty flawed.

Eh, I don't necessarily see it like that. That's not the list I would've nominated for best dramas, but if we're going to use that list, Scandal and Parenthood are easily better than a few of the series on there. It's not even a competition.

I would also put Parenthood as one of the better series on the air right now that often flirts with greatness. I don't know if that makes it "flawed", but it's extremely well made and acted and knows its voice.

Two shows that don't even come close to what cable has to offer doesn't change my opinion.

A few points here -- there are a lot of shitty cable shows. I mean, a ton of shitty cable shows that are as bad as their network counterparts. When we're talking about the highs, I think it would be daft to argue that cable isn't pumping out better dramas than network TV at this point. That doesn't mean that we should ignore the shows on network TV that are stellar.

And yes, Scandal and Parenthood are stellar and probably better than a few of the series that were nominated. Lumping everything in as "network TV is shitty" or "cable TV is fantastic" loses the nuance of reality and generalizations don't really help make a compelling argument.

 

[dead souls]

Why would either of those things be a bad thing?

Girls season two was significantly worse than an already pretty bad first season.

House of Cards is a total mediocrity and once you look past the novelty of it being a Netflix original there's nothing there. Spacey's awful hammy performance doesn't deserve anything but to be laughed out of the category . The only thing even remotely award worthy about its season was Corey Stoll and he didn't even get nominated.

 

[ivysaur12]

Girls season two was significantly worse than an already pretty bad first season.

House of Cards is a total mediocrity and once you look past the novelty of it being a Netflix original there's nothing there. Spacey's awful hammy performance doesn't deserve anything but to be laughed out of the category . The only thing even remotely award worthy about its season was Corey Stoll and he didn't even get nominated.

I'm fine with Robin Wright being nominated, but the real people who should have been nominated were Corey Stoll and Kristen Connelly. Oh well. It is what it is. And we all know that Spacey is going to win, so why fight it?

 

[BertramCooper]

Girls season two was significantly worse than an already pretty bad first season.

The Emmys routinely screw up the comedy categories so horrifically that it's not even remotely funny. It's just sad and stupid.

 

[iammeiam]

And yes, Scandal and Parenthood are stellar and probably better than a few of the series that were nominated. Lumping everything in as "network TV is shitty" or "cable TV is fantastic" loses the nuance of reality and generalizations don't really help make a compelling argument.

I can't speak for Parenthood (it's still on my to-watch list) but I'll back up Scandal being fantastic, and despite being ridiculously over-the-top at every turn is still somehow less silly and unbelievable than what Homeland season 2 churned out.

I'd be willing to bet most people who think Scandal season 2 can't touch cable shows haven't actually watched Scandal. That show knows how to tell a story that moves along at a decent pace.

 

[ivysaur12]

The Emmys routinely screw up the comedy categories so horrifically that it's not even remotely funny. It's just sad and stupid.

It's because the average age of the typical Emmy voter is ollllllld and is from a different time when comedy on TV was different. It's why Big Bang keeps winning awards -- it's their multicam.

 

[Mononoke]

Homeland S2 wasn't even that bad. There, I said it.

Hmmm.

Agree to disagree. I thought Homeland Season 2 was most definitely THAT bad. You saw a clear shift in tone/style from the writers, and it wasn't even done in a smart way. I've lost all faith in the show after reading the exit interview from the showrunner. He basically sounded like Vena Sud defending the Killing's poor writing.

And honestly, I'm starting to think that they just got lucky with Season 1.

 

[Zigzz14]

Kevin Spacey is going to steal Cranston's emmy and it will be a travesty, Hamm I would be okay with. If Homeland wins anything its a joke