Emerson said:Man, I didn't think I could hate Ramsay Snow more but I surely do.
40% Kindle question
Where is Davos being sent?
John Harker said:I kind of wish I was capable of skipping it. It left a bad taste in my mouth all these years. What a chore to churn through!
I'm pretty stoked about Dance though (mainly because the show rekindled my affection for the series) so will be heading to B&N at lunch to grab it.
It's honestly a really good book IMO.LM4sure said:I knew I didn't just make that up. The reviews on amazon.com for A Feast of Crows are awful. But maybe it won't be so bad since I can immediately move on to A Dance with Dragons. I imagine reading a book that didn't live up to expectations and knowing the next book in the series wasn't coming out for many years later would leave a bad taste in your mouth.
But okay. Fine. I will read all the books. Thanks everyone for your input.
LM4sure said:I knew I didn't just make that up. The reviews on amazon.com for A Feast of Crows are awful. But maybe it won't be so bad since I can immediately move on to A Dance with Dragons. I imagine reading a book that didn't live up to expectations and knowing the next book in the series wasn't coming out for many years later would leave a bad taste in your mouth.
But okay. Fine. I will read all the books. Thanks everyone for your input.
How can it be revisionist history if I just read the series all the way through? I enjoyed the hell out of AFFC.yacobod said:A lot of revisionist history going on in here. AFFC is by far the worst book in the series. The book is basically all set up like ACOK, but without any of the characters you give 2 shits about.
KingGondo said:AFFC and ACOK are about equal in quality in my eyes.
I agree, I just wanted to get my opinion out there and defend AFFC since the original guy was asking about it. I feel that it gets an unnecessarily bad rap.cubicle47b said:No one's opinion matters except your own. Leave yacobod to bitching about GRRM being a pedophile who is going to die before he finishes the series.
Revisionist history? Fuck that noise. AFFC was a fantastic novel with superb prose and a perspective on the Westerosi world we have never gotten.yacobod said:A lot of revisionist history going on in here. AFFC is by far the worst book in the series. The book is basically all set up like ACOK, but without any of the characters you give 2 shits about.
My rankings
ASOS > AGoT > ACOK >>>>>>>>>>>AFFC, i'm not sure where ADWD will go, but I suspect it will be between AGoT and ACOK.
Jarmel said:So anyone finish? Any general impressions?
ZephyrFate said:Revisionist history? Fuck that noise. AFFC was a fantastic novel with superb prose and a perspective on the Westerosi world we have never gotten.
It's FAR better than ACOK. Snore.
So in other words you're unimpressed or something? I really don't want to sour my experience with this book.bluemax said:George's experience in writing soap operas really shows up. This series could go on indefinitely at this rate.
yacobod said:A lot of revisionist history going on in here. AFFC is by far the worst book in the series. The book is basically all set up like ACOK, but without any of the characters you give 2 shits about.
My rankings
ASOS > AGoT > ACOK >>>>>>>>>>>AFFC, i'm not sure where ADWD will go, but I suspect it will be between AGoT and ACOK.
chaoticprout said:Done with the book
high level thoughts:
Needed 200 more pages. EVERYTHING ended on shitty cliffhangers.
Emerson said:Been kind of preparing myself for this anyway. As we know he's got 100 pages of TWOW already and he said if it was up to him he'd have put that plus another hundred or something in this book.
CF_Fighter said:A book of that size takes me a good month or two to read. I like to read and absorb every bit I can. I also have a problem of stopping and starting to think on what I've read.
No shit. I'm barely hitting 20% here on the Kindle and I thought I was going through it like a train.Amir0x said:man you guys are reading fast
haha, this was exactly my experience.ultron87 said:Just go to read the Prologue before going to work this morning. I liked it.
Also read the first line of Chapter 1. I loved it.
Chapter 1 First Line Spoiler:"Tyrion drank his way across the Narrow Sea." He's back bitches!
Lm4sure said:I knew I didn't just make that up. The reviews on amazon.com for A Feast of Crows are awful. But maybe it won't be so bad since I can immediately move on to A Dance with Dragons. I imagine reading a book that didn't live up to expectations and knowing the next book in the series wasn't coming out for many years later would leave a bad taste in your mouth.
But okay. Fine. I will read all the books. Thanks everyone for your input.
Zefah said:It would be cool if someone put out a chapter-based timeline so people could read AFFC and ADWD together and get a fuller picture of what's going on. I'd definitely be interested in doing that on a second read through.
Reading through A Dance with Dragons, this was my major thought when season 2 rolls around of the HBO series and I go through another yearly process of rereading. It'd be great for a guide to be out there and switch between the two latter novels just for completionists/fanatics sake.Zefah said:It would be cool if someone put out a chapter-based timeline so people could read AFFC and ADWD together and get a fuller picture of what's going on. I'd definitely be interested in doing that on a second read through.
One joy about being in the southern hemisphere as the book was released, specifically when I could read it instantly when Amazon put it up unlike the past where I had to wait months. It's been frighteningly cold in my city this past week and the location is so close to the equator where I seriously thought that the Stark's had it right.MaritalWheat said:I think the largely wintery settings and his descriptions of them has really set the tone perfectly...I've shivered a fair share though its hot as shit here.
Not even close. Finished the book three weeks ago. Was incredible.yacobod said:A lot of revisionist history going on in here. AFFC is by far the worst book in the series.
And find out that she thinks everyone in Westeros is a stupid craven. Hooray. HBO rounded out her character more in two episodes of GOT than AFFC did in five hundred pages.KuwabaraTheMan said:After my recent reread, I would say I rank Feast second behind Storm overall (that might change depending on Dance, which I've only just started on). The quality of prose is amazing, and we get to see so much more of the world than in the past. Brienne's chapters get criticized a lot, but I don't get the hate. We get Merribald's amazing broken men speech, which might just be the most well-written segment in the entire series, and the Quiet Isle, not to mention a great look at the common people. I also really find the Ironborn lifestyle fascinating, and Aeron and Victarion's chapters are really strong. Plus, we get inside Cersei's head, which I think makes her a much stronger character than in the first three books.
Oh whatever. Cersei's complete meltdown is not only exciting to read but has implications for her rule to come, and Brienne's chapters had Meribald's speech and world building on a level none of the other books had (i.e. from the common man's POV), so yeah. Best prose in the series is definitely given to AFFC.dyls said:And find out that she thinks everyone in Westeros is a stupid craven. Hooray. HBO rounded out her character more in two episodes of GOT than AFFC did in five hundred pages.
I just don't see how anyone can say AFFC is anything but the weak link of the series. Brienne and Cersei are two dimensional characters. They have ZERO depth. Which is fine, unless you give them hundreds of pages of POV each to remind us just how boring they are. I could tell you what either one of them will do in any given situation, and so could you. Doesn't make for exciting reading, despite any nebulous claims of "best prose in the series".
Well, it is the weak link but not for the reasons you suggested. Cutting the book in half and leaving out half the cast really leaves a lot to be desired. I think it will make following the timeline of events rather headache inducing as well.I just don't see how anyone can say AFFC is anything but the weak link of the series. Brienne and Cersei are two dimensional characters. They have ZERO depth. Which is fine, unless you give them hundreds of pages of POV each to remind us just how boring they are. I could tell you what either one of them will do in any given situation, and so could you. Doesn't make for exciting reading, despite any nebulous claims of "best prose in the series".
Coop said:That was awesome. When he said it was wrong to hang him and to bring him his sword.. damn
petethepanda said:Wow, Borders can jump in a lake. Their website has it for $19 (same as Amazon), I check the stock of the local store, they have it, I drive to the store, get to the cashier, "that'll be $26," and I get the whole "we don't price match our website [which is obviously set up to bait you into a store with the promise of Amazon prices]" talk. Ragh.
I have Amazon Prime, so it looks like I'll be digging into this Thursday afternoon.
John Harker said:Only 40 pages in. I haven't read since Feast came out all those years ago. Anyone else having trouble bringing their own interpretations of the characters faces to mind? All I see are the HBO ones!
Not that I'm complaining, but in my head Tyrion is now much better looking than he probably is. And our Pentos merchant friend is too thin.