Derek Smart is a misunderstood genius, much like the guys at Digital Homicide or Peter Molyneux
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A quick history and timeline of Derek Smart vs. Chris Roberts (Star Citizen)
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Derek Smart is a misunderstood genius, much like the guys at Digital Homicide or Peter Molyneux
Denton
Member
Hi Mr. Smart, have you seen Mr. Sterling's attempted review of the game you are selling on Steam for actual money and what have you thought about it?
Here is the review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lw-cwIGuy0
I found it interesting, that anyone would put up a game for sale that consists of blurry (one could say..jizzy) menus and few screenshots.
Derek really should start giving away his game for free, since his "MMO" isn't "massively" in any way, it's barely "multiplayer".
Line of Defense had a crazy good average of 0.2 people playing in the last 30 days http://steamcharts.com/app/266620
Dont forget the following:
-Saying on the Steam forums that he wouldn't accept refunds and that is not legally obligated to do so besides one of his points against CIG was that they didn't give him a refund , and even that was false. The idiot can't even remember where he lives apparently , and gave them a fake adress for them to mail the refund to .
- Complains about what exactly CIG are spending the backer's money on, while at the same time apparently not sending a cent of the money people gave to him for his crappy game, since its still shitty as ever, and saying that Star Citizen will never be released while having a game that will never release in a proper shipabble state.
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
This thread is will be remembered for a looooong time, now that Derek Smart post here...
i respect Derek Smart vision and passion, and i could gave him a benefit of doubt regarding what happen inside CIG. But man, his history make it hard for me to believe him...(no offense Derek Smart)
On the other hand, I want Star Citizen to be realized to prove that huge crowdfunding can be successful.
The escapist case on the other hand, is truly a fine example of "ethics" in game journalism. Spam folder, report with unclear source, hasty investigation.
This whole thing has been interesting so far, so i guess i'll sit back and watch.
Note: I'm not SC backer BTW
i respect Derek Smart vision and passion, and i could gave him a benefit of doubt regarding what happen inside CIG. But man, his history make it hard for me to believe him...(no offense Derek Smart)
On the other hand, I want Star Citizen to be realized to prove that huge crowdfunding can be successful.
The escapist case on the other hand, is truly a fine example of "ethics" in game journalism. Spam folder, report with unclear source, hasty investigation.
This whole thing has been interesting so far, so i guess i'll sit back and watch.
Note: I'm not SC backer BTW
Add to that:
- selling expensive addons for his unplayable (in the most literal sense of the word) excuse of a game* on Steam EA while criticizing CIG's ship sales. (real talk: that stuff could be criticized, but not by Derek given the circumstances with his own game*). The content of those addons is just as elusive as the many features of the main game*, btw.
- delaying his game* again and again, "racing through that last mile" since 2011 or so.
* =
handful of piss-poor amateur maps, shoddily thrown together
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dsmart3000ad
Neo Member
No, it's false. You see, unlike these people, if I made a claim like that, I'd be posting something about it.
Eric "Wingman" (Chris's friend) made the same claim on the RSI forums. I called him on it on Twitter. And he removed the post.
Fact is, it's false. Back in the day, some things may have been said, and within the normal constraints of making comments about other products etc. But never did I threaten them with any of that.
All of you who know me, know that I'm not the type to back away from stuff like that. It's just not my style. So if it did happen, I would say it did, then find every possible way to explain and justify WHY it happened. Regardless of whether or not it made one lick of sense to someone who had a full functioning brain cell or two.
Anyone who knows you, knows that you would immediately make excuses and dispute everything you've said in the past if it suits your current narrative. Derek, it's the same old song and dance at every corner of the internet where you showed up during the last 20 years or so. It's just you who lives completely divorced from reality. Honestly, you should seek professional help. I'm not meaning to sound malicious with that statement. In this single case, it's a serious suggestion.
edit: Where's that gameplay video of your newest 'game', btw? You banned people for asking that question in your private, little Steam corner (after calling them "trolls" and "idiots", of course).
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Anyone with a full functioning brain cell is already well aware of how full shit you are. You're pretending people don't have more than a decade of evidence and frankly it's getting incredibly tiring to see you propel yourself up onto this pedestal of higher intelligence and pretending that anyone who doesn't agree with you is in some way stupid, when it's incredibly clear who the stupid one is. Since we're on the topic of justification, justify why you keep banning people on Steam for reporting problems in your game.
dsmart3000ad
Neo Member
Yes. He was running at a non-standard resolution on a 4K monitor that the game didn't support at the time. That was fixed the same day and a patch released shortly after.
Then I kicked everyone out of the thread.
The same old "wrong specs/German drivers/whatever - fixed it immediately"-lie over and over again.Yes. He was running at a non-standard resolution on a 4K monitor that the game didn't support at the time. That was fixed the same day and a patch released shortly after.
Then I kicked everyone out of the thread.
Please play your own game, record it and upload the video. Thanks.
Thanks for replying, Derek. Maybe OP can update with your response. Many of us have concerns that you may have been coordinating between former CIG employees, and that these sources are thus not truly independent. You've made it clear that you've got sources that are former employees. You've also said that you've been sharing these sources with media contacts you have. Have you been sharing, or coordinating stories between them? Also, do you have an evidence of racial discrimination by CIG or of fraud/embezzlement being committed besides the word of these sources? Did these sources first contact you or did you contact them? Would be great if you could clear up any ambiguity here.
Maybe we could get Sterling to take another look at the game then.
dsmart3000ad
Neo Member
...and suddently I am reminded of why I tend to only read some choice threads and never posting here.
That's it guys, I'm out. Thanks for all the fish.
That's it guys, I'm out. Thanks for all the fish.
dsmart3000ad
Neo Member
Dunno. But here is the entry Build 00.09.06.01 | 15-09-11 in which it was fixed. A lot of gamers don't even have rigs powerful enough to run most games at 4K res. But we added supported for it and similar non-standard resolutions anyway.
Mister_Bubbles
Member
Derek Smart, the one and only game developer who bolts when being asked to provide gameplay footage of his own game. Gold.
lol @ another fake update of your game to keep the "in progress" status on Steam, btw.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Nice bail. One last time..... Why do you keep banning people from reporting issues with your game? That's if you decide to come back
Omg this is so true.
Spladam
Member
Ok, this is very interesting, as the piece of trivia has been passed around so much that it has all but become fact.
Thank you BlackRock for asking this question, and thank you Mr. Smart for answering, as I have assumed this to be true for a good while now, this changes things.
May I ask Derek, do you know what the original comments you made were that were eventually mistaken for this event?
Edit: I see we've chased him away again, you guys could have turned this into a really interesting Q&A, and refrained from jumping all over him, a little self control in the future maybe? Looking at you Bedlam.
I've updated several sections of the OP, but apparently some here are not interested in having an interesting discourse with a real source on this matter. Good questions though sir.
Lol sad.
Now was this a real reply???:
Holy shit, that slayed me! I wonder if he (lowtax) every had anything happen to him.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
He was never going to give us answer worth anything. I asked him three time what was his reason for banning people reporting problems in his game and as expected he repeatedly dodged it, and I wasn't the only one asking it. He even went out of his way to point out that he kicked everyone from a thread after 'fixing' a bug, which as we know was not the case.
I don't mean to seem rude to you at all if I do, but just generally confused and wondering why we should take anything he says with any sort of credibility. He has lied to everyone repeatedly yet all of a sudden we are supposed to believe him?
I have no regrets. This man needs to be confronted with his own bs at every given opportunity. Of course I knew he can't provide a real gameplay video, because there is no actual game there but just a small collection of poor maps that load if you're really, really lucky.
Seriously, all you were going to get would've been the usual spin that he leaves basically everywhere on the internet.
Lowtax has been getting dumb emails from stupid people for well over ten years. None of them have really come to anything - the only one that actually turned into something was Uwe Boll challenging him to a boxing match and punching him in real life.
Pinko Marx
Banned
Inb4 Derek threatens to sue over a troll post ITT.
Spladam
Member
You could have taken it in any way you wanted to, but now there is nothing to take in any way, it could have been an interesting conversation even if he didn't answer all the questions, just like it works on AMAs. There are many threads for talking about the woes of Derek Smart, but GAF could have gotten some answers about things, that first answer about the infringement lawsuit was the first time I had heard any other take on this in much research, and it kind of affects the narrative of my timeline. I mean, you guys know how he's going to respond to a bunch of hating, we could have tried A MORE INTERESTING approach. It's done now, so......
With Derek, you never know really what he's going to say, it might be good sometimes, and if reading about him all these years tells me anything, it's that he responds much better when the flames are not thrown, otherwise, it's just the circus. These days, he just leaves. I kind of thought GAF was different from most other forums. But it looks like we are in reality just the same. It's not like he's never been confronted before, but if you look at the articles where people just ask him thoughtful questions, he actually gives thoughtful answers.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Yeah that's fair enough and I honestly can respect that view. I just personally can't help but feel that Derek will always run when backed into a corner and that it's essentially what happened here, but with that issue in the way we can never push him on any questions since he will only selectively answer what he chooses to. I can see how it may have been a missed opportunity too, but generally, Derek doesn't take well to being asked the hard questions and I do think he would have turned tail and ran had we tried to get him give an answer he couldn't twist into a positive for him.
I know this is a pretty one sided view so I apologize for adding to the problem, but cannot deny my personal view of the man and his behavior still.
I know it's kind of a cliche to say at this point but the funniest people are often the most depressed.
Derek Smart is a lifer troll who's "career" has been mildly resurrected by aligning himself with racist, white supremacist assholes, much like when someone tries to reheat Great Value Tater Tots the next in the microwave the next day, they find out that you just can't bring back what was already gone.
Derek "Creative Commons assets would actually improve my games" Smart has no intention of ever actually engaging people in conversation. We dealt with this crap eons ago over on the Penny Arcade Forums. He always cuts and runs. He will never be accountable to anything. He's the Nancy Grace of gaming, nobody likes him, he's a racist, but people keep giving him airtime for god knows what reason, and he is only notable because he keeps attaching himself to the latest tragedy of humanity. Or whatever is in his latest /release/ trunk.
Derek "Creative Commons assets would actually improve my games" Smart has no intention of ever actually engaging people in conversation. We dealt with this crap eons ago over on the Penny Arcade Forums. He always cuts and runs. He will never be accountable to anything. He's the Nancy Grace of gaming, nobody likes him, he's a racist, but people keep giving him airtime for god knows what reason, and he is only notable because he keeps attaching himself to the latest tragedy of humanity. Or whatever is in his latest /release/ trunk.
You can ask him in private, PM is a thing.
In fact, it's the only good solution, for him and for us because in a thread it will be flames and laughs. Not because of us but of what he's as social persona: a curiosity.
Considering that Derek was the one known quality in this story - the others being anonymous sources - I think his responses are indeed worthwhile. One would naturally evaluate his responses, but aren't they still worthwhile having in the first place? So far we have nothing but questions about what went on with The Escapist and the possibility of collusion between these anonymous sources.
Derek, if you're still reading, I'd certainly still be interested in hearing your responses and it's a chance to answer these outstanding questions about what's going on. Spladam can update with your responses.
Derek, if you're still reading, I'd certainly still be interested in hearing your responses and it's a chance to answer these outstanding questions about what's going on. Spladam can update with your responses.
Spladam
Member
Not a bad idea, but I doubt he watches his NeoGAF account that he has only just posted on today after being summoned by Google Alert. I'll try I guess. Edit: I don't even notice PMs sometimes.
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
What happened to him that made him like this? I haven't really followed much of SA for a few years (been meaning to post back there again).
I don't know anything in exact detail. What I do know came from a random stream of his that I caught that he either never saved or immediately deleted from this youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/user/lowtaxico
It was a long while ago - soon after Schmorky stopped doing videos with him and it was a rough watch. The channel kind of died since then.
It was a bullshit answer that amounted to "It's not true because I said so". Don't turn this around on GAF because people aren't going to pat him on the back and whisper sweet nothings in his ear. If he can't take it, let him take is ball and go home. I respect what you were trying to do, but I absolutely disagree. If he doesn't feel the need to hold back then we shouldn't either. He can either answer or walk, but he shouldn't get a pass.
I can assure you he is glued to this thread right now (and has been for days), even if he won't answer your pm.
If he actually does, most of us know pretty much exactly what he is going to say (he is not going to change suddenly after more than 20 years of this circus). As mentioned above, people tried what you're trying to do many times before, always with the same result.
Attention is what Derek feeds off and it's best to not give him any nor any platform to spew his bs. But it seems every new generation of gamers has to learn this anew.
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anothertech
Member
This is Derek, when someone posts about major issues like framerate and buttons dissapearing in the menu in your new LoD game on the forums, and your response is "Your framerate being in the low teens is largely irrelevant to me." it makes it a little hard to take what you say without a large helping of salt. That is just my point of view though.
Purple Cheeto
Member
Chris Roberts' doesn't appear to be any more sane.
Well I'm convinced....
Thanks Derek! Though you did say "goodbye" two posts ago, so I'm fairly certain we'll hear from you again, imminently.
On a good note, It looks like absolutely nothing needs to be changed in the OT.
Hahaha 10/10
uh, why? They just had a convention where they showed a ton of content?