A Tale of 'Merica and Milk - I just walked out and abandoned a job interview. FML.

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That's fine and it's great that things worked out for you.

But do you really think that waiting 45 mins for an interview when you are unemployed is the equivalent of "eating shit"?

Thank you.

Waiting 45 minutes on its own is not, but is a warning sign. It is better not to put your earnings at risk. I have worked under the contract of promised pay previously, and ended up not being paid due to managerial malfeasance with company monies. These days, I think I have a good "sniff sense" of whether an enterprise is a legitimate going concern or a fly-by-night operation.

I make no judgement about the firm OP was interviewing at, since I wasn't there, but if his instincts warned him against it, I agree with him heeding their warning.

OP can't post a gloat thread if he is permed. Is he permed?

Conceded lol.

Mods are killing it with the retitle.
 
I have no idea what this thread is about anymore, so I guess this is as good a place as any to ask:

What are the parameters that qualify a Junior Member to regular Member?

I think it's a little relevant to this thread. Maybe.
First you have to get a tag. Only then will you be eligible for Member
 
So just a few weeks ago he was all humble and offering up how willing he was to travel hundreds of miles?

It seams quite possible the entire thread was a ruse then?

He seamed to be playing the character of the exact opposite position he's been in for a long time. Like he went from "bend over backwards humble criminal history" guy to this thread. Talking about how incredibly employable he is and how much respect he demands.

Or did getting his record expunged go to his head that much and this is some subconscious rebellion against his past of being unemployable due to his record?
 
With regards to that final part, I guess it's a good thing Juniors can't make threads LOL.

I always viewed it as weight to your actions. You spent time in "probation" period and get to Member status. Afterwards you are accustomed to how the forum works. What to do, say, not say etc. And if you do make a Thread you value the contents in that Thread as they are a reflection of you and your "shared" history with GAF. It's like earning a stepping stone. If you F up in the manner that a Junior might mess up, you might only be Junior-ed instead of outright P-banned. It is expected that you hold yourself to a higher standard at a Member level.
 
Well, this was my favorite thread of the day, good work everybody.

The moral of the story, as always, is to talk to humans instead of stewing in your shit and then griping on the Internet about it.
 
Or did getting his record expunged go to his head that much and this is some subconscious rebellion against his past of being unemployable due to his record?
He did get it expunged? I missed that plot point. I've only vaguely been following the saga.
 
Getting a tag is way too hard around here. And no I'm not talking about myself; there's tons of really good, recognizable, long-time posters without one, while scores of shitheels have one, oftentimes just for being a shitheel. With the way tags are something of a status symbol, it can be a bit backwards.
 
I actually hate milk, yet use it in cereal and coffee.

I hate milk so much that when I eat cereal I create a little dam in the bowl by pushing the cereal up on one side. I then push a spoonful of cereal into the pool of milk, scoop it out, pour off the excess milk and then take my bite. I don't use very much milk when I do this, but I do pour what's left in the bowl down the drain. I know many consider that crazy since they enjoy putting the bowl to their mouth and guzzling down the leftover sugary milk. That's gross to me....
 
Getting a tag is way too hard around here. And no I'm not talking about myself; there's tons of really good, recognizable, long-time posters without one, while scores of shitheels have one, oftentimes just for being a shitheel. With the way tags are something of a status symbol, it can be a bit backwards.

Given how some people have tags linking to bad posts they made like 5 years ago, that they've been forever branded with, not having a tag isn't always the worst thing.
 
Getting a tag is way too hard around here. And no I'm not talking about myself; there's tons of really good, recognizable, long-time posters without one, while scores of shitheels have one, oftentimes just for being a shitheel. With the way tags are something of a status symbol, it can be a bit backwards.

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Getting a tag is way too hard around here. And no I'm not talking about myself; there's tons of really good, recognizable, long-time posters without one, while scores of shitheels have one, oftentimes just for being a shitheel. With the way tags are something of a status symbol, it can be a bit backwards.

Nine out of ten tags are personal embarrassments.
 
Getting a tag is way too hard around here. And no I'm not talking about myself; there's tons of really good, recognizable, long-time posters without one, while scores of shitheels have one, oftentimes just for being a shitheel. With the way tags are something of a status symbol, it can be a bit backwards.
My guess: you don't get a tag if you're so memorable you get banned.
 
OP why. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?!
If I were you, knowing the salary amount you could earn with that job, I'd stay there all day if it were needed. A job is a job, leave your ego at home when you go to the working world, especially if you're looking for a job. You're trying to 'sell yourself' to an employer not expect him to kiss your feet when you walk in the door.
 
Wow, this guy had a very, very toxic idea on typical vocations. Sure, I've ranted about the absurdity on how we live today, especially with how we value money and I know some people on GAF thought I was off-base with it, but to make claims that people are automatic door mats, that a vocation must have picture-perfect executions of time, that his actions and ideals are reasonable in this context...the whole thing looks like an idea he has in his head taken to a crazy extreme.

It is one thing to look at our culture and call it toxic as it creates a vast body of suffering, which I thought Thatcher was getting it at an underlying theme with his Target thread, that the minimum income is not a liveable income, and there are many valid reasons to see the uh oh with what it is right now. I think many compassionate people can see what we have in that regard is supreme horseshit.

However, it is another fucking thing entirely to call it toxic for really absurd reasons like waiting for 45 minutes, to feel you were disrespected because the person you see was occupied, to assume the entire process is them taking advantage of you. They're only taking advantage of you if you think there's some shady shit going on, and waiting 45 minutes is a far fucking cry from shady shit. If you feel you would be taken advantage of, one has all right in the world to question the vocation, and even bail if they really feel this. The problem here is Thatcher has this idea that perhaps all work, at root, is where you are being taken advantage of. Being taken advantage of is imposing ideas that your time and life do not matter, so maybe he took the idea of waiting a little while as being abused. I find that to be incredibly extreme. I and many others have already said that sometimes shit happens, and it appears that the manager even planned for a waiting period so he could get paperwork done for the interview. In fact, his time was taken into very serious consideration by the person looking to see him, but he still twisted it that it wasn't because of his own poisonous view that all endeavours are cancerous, that the manager was poorly running his place.

Maybe his solution is to live without money, be a hermit, and live on concepts like barter. Maybe some on GAF would find that crazy...if only because he might create very absurd, unrealistic ideals about that too, continuing to stumble himself about.


I wrote all of this without seeing the post on...milk? Would it be fair to assume he had some crazy fucking breakdown, or more of those extreme ideal but to a dairy product?
 
Or did getting his record expunged go to his head that much and this is some subconscious rebellion against his past of being unemployable due to his record?
I think this is it. I already saw shades of it in that other thread, and he mentioned in one of his posts here that it got expunged.
 
Getting a tag is way too hard around here. And no I'm not talking about myself; there's tons of really good, recognizable, long-time posters without one, while scores of shitheels have one, oftentimes just for being a shitheel. With the way tags are something of a status symbol, it can be a bit backwards.
Eh, tags don't really mean that much. I mean occasionally there are tag give-away threads where you can get one just by showing up.
 
Getting a tag is way too hard around here. And no I'm not talking about myself; there's tons of really good, recognizable, long-time posters without one, while scores of shitheels have one, oftentimes just for being a shitheel. With the way tags are something of a status symbol, it can be a bit backwards.

I'll share my tag with you if you want. :)
 
It all started one day long ago, when our man Thacker posted a most sorrowful tale filled with tragedy and misfortune, about how a shrill and evil ex-girlfriend beat him with a phone after a "mutual" physical altercation. This girlfriend then became the head of some powerful company, malevolently shutting down all his job opportunities one after the other until, despondent, he turned to NeoGAF and made that first thread.

Filled with a sense of social activism, he tireless campaigned (in the NeoGAF topic) for sympathy and empathy for the tragic miscarriage of American justice in which a mere misdemeanor could mean someone as ALPHA and as talented as he - easily worth 80k at least - could not get a job. Understandably, NeoGAF's liberal elite agreed with this. But NeoGAF is a harsh mistress, and it wasn't so long before we turned to consume our own.

For Thacker made a second topic, A Tale of 'Merica and Milk (retitled from its original thread release 1.0), in which he finally had a job interview with someone willing to pay him 70k. In his first e-mail, this fucking 80s Reagan-era wannabe had the AUDACITY to ask him for his salary history and references. Knowing immediately this was a power play by some fucking trust fund kid out of control, he kept his composure and said he would respond later with his references and kept his salary history confidential. He was a player, and he knew it.

So he arrives at the interview early, and quickly finishes the forms they ask him to fill out. And then the horrific waiting game begins. Minute after minute ticks by. What seems like an eternity. The assistant knowingly sipping on her coffee, every suck amplified a million times as if an atomic bomb was going off in the empty minimalist lobby. He looked hastily at his watch: FORTY FIVE FUCKING MINUTES!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?

He looked and saw the man who was to give his interview on the phone. He angrily grumbled to himself and said internally he was NOT going to be taken advantage of, and his gut told him something was not right. So he got up and left. Like a fucking baller. He left. And then he got anxious and made this topic. Realizing he may have reacted... hastily... he decides to e-mail the guy.

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Now as you can tell from reading it, as you might expect this is exactly the type of letter that says "PRIME WORKPLACE CANDIDATE, I SHOULD FORGET THAT LITTLE STUNT AND HIRE HIM", but no. That's not what happened. He got this response instead:



Having just been given a SERVED SANDWICH with a side of PWNAGE lettuce, he began to defend his gut feeling, even despite every single person on NeoGAF saying it was insane and he should just wake up tomorrow with a new attitude.

He grew embittered, sensing yet another miscarriage of social justice, he begins to accuse us all of being a perfect example of why the very fabric of society is crumbling, replete with references to wealth inequality and the death of the middle class. Crying eagles and american flags unfurled themselves as his patriotic banter, but it was not long to be.

For in a closing salvo, he informs NeoGAF that they have overdosed on milk and estrogen, which is why we don't understand his perspective of standing up for himself and leaving immediately after 45 minutes. If only we had dipped far less cookies in our milk, mayhaps we could have grasped his vision of the world.


If only...


I said God damn.

This was beautiful.
 
He did get it expunged? I missed that plot point. I've only vaguely been following the saga.

He said so in the thread.

While I've had trouble getting interviews my skillset is high in demand in the Atlanta area and I am pretty confident something else will come along if I can hold out a bit longer. I recently got a misdemeanor expunged from my record which was holding me back dramatically... and I've been applying heavily and sending resumes for about 3 weeks now. I have 9+ Microsoft Certs, 1 Cisco, 2 CompTia and various other customer service related courses under my belt, along with 8+ years of total IT related experience. I am 27.

But it's such a dramatic 180 of attitude.. so many RECENT statements that he'd bend over backwards for even an interview.. to this "doormat" and power play rhetoric. Not to mention topping it off with a sexist insult mentioning "submissive" behavior (after being convicted of battery on his ex-GF.) edit: he pleaded 'no contest'.. I'm unsure of the legal distinction between that and a conviction
 
This thread made me feel grateful for not being a super prick and not knowing it. Imagine if the wolrd around you felt like we did this night. I shrug.
 
I'm pretty baffled how OP couldn't have just walked up to the receptionist and just asked if he would be interviewing soon. But more than that, even if OP's pride was offended, the smart thing to do would have been to take the higher road and realize and even if he felt that someone else was acting unprofessionally he should have done his part and represented himself well by acting professionally nonetheless. It just seems silly to needlessly represent yourself in such a poor manner, especially since this is likely to affect his reputation in the local job market.

To be honest, not saying that the manager shouldn't have come and said that they would be with him in a few minutes, but OP's behaviour is what I would expect from a teenager who is just stepping into the world of applying to jobs, not someone who purportedly has plenty of experience applying to places. It just makes sense that even if you're not being treated professionally, you should at least represent yourself well.
 
Getting a tag is way too hard around here. And no I'm not talking about myself; there's tons of really good, recognizable, long-time posters without one, while scores of shitheels have one, oftentimes just for being a shitheel. With the way tags are something of a status symbol, it can be a bit backwards.

Best bet is to be a regular in a community thread where mods often post.

Sporadic posting in standard OT threads ain't the way, man.
 
He said so in the thread.

But it's such a dramatic 180 of attitude.. so many RECENT statements that he'd bend over backwards for even an interview.. to this "doormat" and power play rhetoric. Not to mention topping it off with a sexist insult mentioning "submissive" behavior (after being convicted of battery on his ex-GF.) edit: he pleaded 'no contest'.. I'm unsure of the legal distinction between that and a conviction
Because he can only contain the crazy entitled resentment so long before it bursts out.
 
So happy I kept up with this thread.

best moderation on the internet, should have taken bets on this shit months ago.
 
I'm pretty baffled how OP couldn't have just walked up to the receptionist and just asked if he would be interviewing soon. But more than that, even if OP's pride was offended, the smart thing to do would have been to take the higher road and realize and even if he felt that someone else was acting unprofessionally he should have done his part and represented himself well by acting professionally nonetheless. It just seems silly to needlessly represent yourself in such a poor manner, especially since this is likely to affect his reputation in the local job market.

To be honest, not saying that the manager shouldn't have come and said that they would be with him in a few minutes, but OP's behaviour is what I would expect from a teenager who is just stepping into the world of applying to jobs, not someone who purportedly has plenty of experience applying to places. It just makes sense that even if you're not being treated professionally, you should at least represent yourself well.

Or to put it another way, consider the story of Michael Faraday, recently relayed in Cosmos. Here was a man who came from impoverished origins, and literally on his own volition made a 300 page transcript of one of Humphry Davy's, a renowned chemist and inventor of the day, lecture. With no education past some basic early schooling, he was taken on to be his 'assistant', which meant doing shit work all day. Until one day he was given a shot to figure out a solution to a problem, and he ceased it. Later, Davy - jealous of Faraday's fame from the success of that experiment - assigned him to doing shit work trying to figure out how to improve on optical glass design, despite Faraday knowing basically nothing of the subject whatsoever.




Faraday toiled away at this task for FOUR YEARS. FOUR YEARS, even though he knew it was shit, dead-end work because he was no moron.

And from that shit work, he produced a piece of shitty glass he kept as a memento of his time working for Davy. And that glass went on to become central to one of the biggest discoveries of his career.

Thacker could not stomach 45 minutes.
 
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