Abused 16 year old shoots her 15 year old brother

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Justice would have been if she shot the parents. Whatever the boy did, it was at the instructions of his parents.

This whole thing is horrible. The kids need to be re-homed and the parents fucking locked away. Bastards.

Ah so the part where he was having sex with his own sister, who had already been abused by the uncle doesn't give you any clues as to why she shot him, aided by her 11 year old sister?

Seriously though, this is some fucked up shit.
 
Is it bad that I feel worse for the girl than the brother?

What will happen to the girl now?

They also say the children's mother discovered the siblings having sex in 2011.

oh...
 
Fucking Florida... this is tragic, and I find it hard to blame the girl.



You don't know that... It's pretty normal for siblings with a little power to harass and abuse one another. Especially if they are raised in a horrible family situation like this one where abuse, neglect, and harassment seem to be the norm. The parents are ultimately to blame but we just don't know how far the boy went in his cruelty.

But for a brother to have sex with his sister and lock her up and who knows what else. You have to question if he suffered the same as she did. Who knows what went on in his life as well as his sisters. Yes he abused her, but we don't know if he knew nothing else in his life other then abuse. He may have thought it was ok.
 
Ah so the part where he was having sex with his own sister, who had already been abused by the uncle doesn't give you any clues as to why she shot him, aided by her 11 year old sister?

Seriously though, this is some fucked up shit.

So he was about 13 and her 12 at the time they were caught having sex? Now I get why she shot him. But for a 13yr old to do something like this, something else is going on.
 
Is it bad that I feel worse for the girl than the brother?

What will happen to the girl now?



oh...

At the time they would have been 7 and 8 years old.
You pretty much can't blame the kids for this - the parents have absolutely failed them.
These kids needed new families & some pretty incredible therapy and they obviously didn't get that.
 
I'm with you, she's been abused for a long time and the parents didn't seem to care, if they did she would have had help and we wouldn't be here posting.

I hope both girls get a new family that will love them and give them a chance to have normal lives.

And the three year old. It bothers me they didn't take the three year old with them. I can't even imagine leaving my 3 year old niece with her dead brother in a house alone.
 
Lock up the parents, and get the girl some much needed love and counseling. She doesn't deserve jail time in my opinion. This was self-defense.
 
The only people that deserve to be tried as adults and locked away for a long time are the parents.

The remaining 3 children need help. a LOT of help. Particularly the 11 and 15 year olds. And I'm not sure any society is equipped to give it to them
 
At the time they would have been 7 and 8 years old.
You pretty much can't blame the kids for this - the parents have absolutely failed them.
These kids needed new families & some pretty incredible therapy and they obviously didn't get that.

I agree with what you said about the parents but wouldn't their ages have been closer to 11 and 12 in 2011?
 
But for a brother to have sex with his sister and lock her up and who knows what else. You have to question if he suffered the same as she did. Who knows what went on in his life as well as his sisters. Yes he abused her, but we don't know if he knew nothing else in his life other then abuse. He may have thought it was ok.

Of course. I'm not saying she's justified at all in killing him and I'm sure he has had a really hard time as well. Just saying that it makes sense for someone who has grown up with that kind of a life to lose her mind in rage like that and lash out at the last person who was cruel to her.
 
Of course. I'm not saying she's justified at all in killing him and I'm sure he has had a really hard time as well. Just saying that it makes sense for someone who has grown up with that kind of a life to lose her mind in rage like that and lash out at the last person who was cruel to her.

Yeah it makes sense just such a waste of life ( for all the children). The parents and uncle and who ever else envolved need locking up. The police need to also look into why they didn't follow up the past investigation.
 
Somepeople shouldn't have children. The parents are the ones to blame here. They should be sent to jail the abuse Obviously started with them. They are supposed to protect their children not neglect and abuse them. The girl definitely needs to get professional mental help not sent to an adult prison where she will continue to be abused.
 
You don't know that... It's pretty normal for siblings with a little power to harass and abuse one another. Especially if they are raised in a horrible family situation like this one where abuse, neglect, and harassment seem to be the norm. The parents are ultimately to blame but we just don't know how far the boy went in his cruelty.

The girl was kept locked in a room for up to 20 days. The parents went away for days at a time, leaving a three year old in the care of teenagers. If the boy learnt any cruelty, it was obviously from his parents.
 
And the three year old. It bothers me they didn't take the three year old with them. I can't even imagine leaving my 3 year old niece with her dead brother in a house alone.

I suspect she fled with the 11 year old because the 11 year old was her accomplice, while the 3 year old was completely innocent in all of it.

The girls were being held in juvenile detention on suspicion of murder and a prosecutor is trying to decide whether they will be charged as adults. Their parents face charges of child neglect and failing to supervise.
That he is considering charges at all is a god damn travesty. This girl is a victim; I suspect if she had fled, the 11 year old would have been the next victim in line.
 
What in the goddamn holiest of fucks!

Holy fuuuck!!!

This is one of the most depraved conditions to have to find yourself in. A molesting uncle, 20 day imprisonment, abuse of all manner.

I really hope this girl can recover because she needs to chew these shitty fucking parents out and these parents need to face jail time. Seriously.

And I feel horrible for the two other younger siblings. Having to go into the system if there arent any competent relatives that could care for them.

Gah!!!
 
I can't blame the girl at all. Taking that abuse for years, I'm surprised she didn't off the parents either. Shit.
 
What in the goddamn holiest of fucks!

Holy fuuuck!!!

This is one of the most depraved conditions to have to find yourself in. A molesting uncle, 20 day imprisonment, abuse of all manner.

I really hope this girl can recover because she needs to chew these shitty fucking parents out and these parents need to face jail time. Seriously.

And I feel horrible for the two other younger siblings. Having to go into the system if there arent any competent relatives that could care for them.

Gah!!!

I feel sorry for all the children (including the brother). Shame his death had to highlight what there parents and uncle did.
 
Sad story. Don't think the girls should even be tried, they need help and probably lots of it at this point. Get the 3 year old in a good home and the 11 and 15 year old the help they need. Parents should also be tried for being awful human beings.
 
Lock up the parents, and get the girl some much needed love and counseling. She doesn't deserve jail time in my opinion. This was self-defense.

I wouldn't call it self defense. Going outside, back inside to get the gun and killing her sleeping brother is clearly not the right action to take no matter how horrible he was.

Given the circumstances surrounding this though, jail definitely doesn't seem appropriate and I'm all for a good amount of leniency.

Also completely agreed about the parents.
 
i'll never understand america's obsession with charging minors as adults

they're not adults

they shouldn't be tried as adults

end of story
 
Wow OP, did you really need to leave out that important info..

Damn. I feel sad for her and all she had to go through. Hope they finally throw the parents in jail!.. :(
 
Most tragic and conflicting story I've read in a while. Just incredibly screwed up on all counts. Hope the girl gets help and is able to find stability after this. Same for the other children. Those parents deserve prison time for how they've treated her.
 
i'll never understand america's obsession with charging minors as adults

they're not adults

they shouldn't be tried as adults

end of story

Especially when it's obvious they have not received the kind of upbringing to turn them into proper adults. Who knows what this girl's sense of "right from wrong" is
 
Reminds me of...

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... except the child never made it to social services.
 
Especially when it's obvious they have not received the kind of upbringing to turn them into proper adults. Who knows what this girl's sense of "right from wrong" is

I wonder though if they would be able to work with her long enough within the juvenile system to rehabilitate her. They would have to let her go once she's legally an adult.
 
Yikes. I hope all the adults involved end up in jail for a long time. The daughters shouldn't be charged with anything... Hopefully they get the help they need.
 
So the biggest tragedy is this girl's entire life, and the second biggest tragedy is that the parents didn't get killed too.

Biggest tragedy of all will be if she's convicted for any of this.
 
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