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Ace Attorney Community Thread - MUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCH
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Yeah ok that case was pretty good. Not near my favorites or anything, but it had some decent surprises and twists. Now I only have Investigations left to play. I'll take a break again now, but I'll definitely play Investigations since it appears to fill the Gumshoe hole the newer games left. Not even a cameo in 2 mainline games
Edit: playtime of DD 36 hours.
Edit: playtime of DD 36 hours.
PreyingShark
Member
I don't like those kinds of endings to murder mysteries. It makes me feel cheated to learn that
there was never an actual murder.
Up until that point the case was really good though.
Do it. It's awesome.
Actually, what's the best intro (video) of all the cases? I don't know DGS of course, but that aside I probably have to pick AAI Case 5 (up to 1:10) for having the best intro in the whole series. It still gives me goosebumps seeing it now.
Modest Mauser
Member
What am I looking at here?
Those are new Project X Zone 2 shots.
Professor Beef
Banned
They're probably saying "NOT AGAIN"
An interesting post by Court-Records member Ash on who was responsible for each AA game's writing:
It certainly makes sense that Takumi seems to handle everything on his own in his games - the ones he was in charge of always feel a bit more consistent than the others. He has a very distinctive voice.
Of course, this reinforces that the mess that was 4-3 and 4-4 is mostly at his feet, external factors or no. It is interesting that PLvsPW's finale was drafted by someone else, though, since the last trial was definitely the weakest AA part of that game.
Ash said:
It certainly makes sense that Takumi seems to handle everything on his own in his games - the ones he was in charge of always feel a bit more consistent than the others. He has a very distinctive voice.
Of course, this reinforces that the mess that was 4-3 and 4-4 is mostly at his feet, external factors or no. It is interesting that PLvsPW's finale was drafted by someone else, though, since the last trial was definitely the weakest AA part of that game.
Professor Beef
Banned
Yeah, that final part of PLAA was a stinker.
EastOfEden
Member
PLvAA by kilometres. Investigations was just a bit of an anticlimax and drawn out, PLvAA actively destroyed
the mysteries of each of the previous cases (except in London) and basically the whole plot.
Nocturnowl
Member
Investigations finale still felt more tedious and slogtacular to actually get through for me so I think I'll still take the obligatory Layton nonsense over it.
PreyingShark
Member
I liked PL vs AA's ending TBH. It was just as Layton-esque as I expected and it was wonderful.
There's nothing wonderful about a game's ending actively and blatantly contradicting several moments that happened previously in the story. They had to joke about it in the DLC story events because of how dumb that was.
PreyingShark
Member
TBH I didn't notice any plotholes.
Ha, well someone can enjoy any game's story if they don't take the plot into account. This is especially bad in a game based around logic and pointing out contradictions.
Here's a single one:
how did Phoenix Wright, Maya, Professor Layton and Luke get sucked into a book?
PreyingShark
Member
I dunno, who cares? It's a Layton plot. You don't look at Layton plots critically. You don't think about them. You just enjoy them.
EDIT: Though I do remember being a bit "lolwut?" about the book thing. That was over a year ago tho, I don't have good memory
EDIT: Though I do remember being a bit "lolwut?" about the book thing. That was over a year ago tho, I don't have good memory
But it shouldn't have just been a Layton plot; it should have been an Ace Attorney one, too. AA is a series usually devoid of that nonsense yet, despite this supposed "cross-over," Layton overshadowed AA in every facet of the game, seemingly including its story.
I won't just dumb myself down and "just enjoy them" when it's a story revolving around supposedly intelligent "twists" and critical thinking. I'm not that easy to please, and I expect a story to not treat me like an idiot with poor attention span who won't remember everything that happened earlier on.
Edit: And the book is just one of the numerous plot holes and contradictions that the story created as it unfolded. Again, they had to joke about the things that they shoved under the rug in the DLC stories because of that.
Professor Beef
Banned
I never liked Layton games because the plots were completely out there, and not in the good way. Just dumb for the sake of a twist. Stick to puzzles, Layton. It's literally all you're good at.
PreyingShark
Member
I love Layton because of the absurd plots. The puzzles are kind of O.K. but it's not why I play the Layton games. Well, I guess more liked "played", R.I.P. Layton.
PL vs AA is still one of the worst AA endings, but the only ending to an AA game that I didn't like was DGS's.
Professor Beef
Banned
PLvAA's ending is a Layton ending, not an AA ending. It has Layton written all fucking over it. Takumi should've trashed that draft when he had the chance.
BassForever
Member
Modest Mauser
Member
Bridge to the Turnabout is my favorite thing ever
Best case ever, enjoy the finale
If you dont cry in the end, you have to quit the series forever
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck *Ace Attorney breakdown*
All of this, plus
and
...it doesn't get much better than this folks. This is the way to wrap an overarching plot in the greatest possible way. This is easily the best case in the series, and for me, I don't think it'll be topped. Based Shu Takumi.
I'll be taking a break from the AA series momentarily to play 999 and Virtue's Last Reward. Then I'll be back for AA4.
-Phoenix and Mia posing.
-Godot's bloody tears...HE HAD A HARD LIFE.
-Godot's bloody tears...HE HAD A HARD LIFE.
-IRIS WAS PHOENIX'S GIRLFRIEND ALL ALONG.
-Phoenix sharing a cup of coffee with Godot.
-Ace Attorney 1 music.
-Ace Attorney 1 music.
All of this, plus
Dahlia being one crazy villain (her defeat was glorious)
Edgeworth vs Franziska epic showdown (Edgeworth is too good as a defense attorney)
I'll be taking a break from the AA series momentarily to play 999 and Virtue's Last Reward. Then I'll be back for AA4.
Some cases come close, but 3-5 is really the pinnacle. You know you played a true masterpiece when after finishing it you feel empty and sad. I finished it back in 2007 and felt so bad, because to me it felt like I was saying goodbye to good friends.
Good idea! While I could play new AA games all days long, it's good to have some variety, and 999 + VLR are stellar games on their own.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck *Ace Attorney breakdown*
-Phoenix and Mia posing.
-Godot's bloody tears...HE HAD A HARD LIFE.
-IRIS WAS PHEONIX'S GIRLFRIEND ALL ALONG.
-Pheonix sharing a cup of coffee with Godot.
-Ace Attorney 1 music.
All of this, plusandDahlia being one crazy villain (her defeat was glorious)...it doesn't get much better than this folks. This is the way to wrap an overarching plot in the greatest possible way. This is easily the best case in the series, and for me, I don't think it'll be topped. Based Shu Takumi.Edgeworth vs Franziska epic showdown (Edgeworth is too good as a defense attorney)
I'll be taking a break from the AA series momentarily to play 999 and Virtue's Last Reward. Then I'll be back for AA4.
if you want more shu takumi goodness, play ghost trick. game is on par with ace attorney greatness
Got a little burned out at times with AA, so it took me longer than usual to get through the trilogy. A break is due. I'm pretty excited for Zero Escape, and I hope it's just as good as AA.
I'll try to check it out at some point.
Professor Beef
Banned
play ghost trick or i'm gonna ban you
i'll find a way SHUTUP
i'll find a way SHUTUP
Professor Beef
Banned
Way better than Apollo
Nocturnowl
Member
Of course you will what with your snitching skills and all.
Except this time I'd be with you for that snitch life.
it's very unique. clearly takumi style story, but nothing I have played before or since. it's very different from aa, so hard to compare imo.
