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Ace Attorney [Mafia] |OT| Turnabout Scum
- Thread starter Sorian
- Start date
EzekelRAGE
Member
Yes, I am town.
Later game goes, more valuable my power. Kinda useless early unless its has extremely close votes like yesterday.
TheGoddamn
Member
Vote: CornBurrito
Barring anything major happening today, one pending conflict is CB vs Zeke, and his general aggressiveness (and the inexplicable alluding to burgers-- eat your burgers, Apollo? Or a blatant breadcrumbing of Maya) is a bit too much for me. Of the two, I'm leaning towards Zeke being town [and Zeke claiming also supports that. Let's see the tally.]
Barring anything major happening today, one pending conflict is CB vs Zeke, and his general aggressiveness (and the inexplicable alluding to burgers-- eat your burgers, Apollo? Or a blatant breadcrumbing of Maya) is a bit too much for me. Of the two, I'm leaning towards Zeke being town [and Zeke claiming also supports that. Let's see the tally.]
Xamtheking
Member
Also
On an unrelated but funny note
On an unrelated but funny note
I'm willing to mod kill for less.
Xamtheking
Member
I was going to PM that but I learned you can't send images through PMs
I will use more discretion in the future
*vanishes in a puff of confetti*
TheGoddamn
Member
Well then. Posting on mobile makes me less agile. I'm glad you're willing to hear Zeke out in this though, CB.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I don't like this. Mask de Masque part of town? And he "steals" votes? Not very...town to me.
EzekelRAGE
Member
Just incase it wasnt clear, my power works every night. The vote is returned to the person i stole the last phase. So, unless I choose Squidy again, he gets his vote back the next day phase. Also if I should die at night, my steal command would still go thru. So if I should die and someone's vote doesnt count, that was my target that night phase.
CrimsonFist
Member
Ok,no reason to keep it secret any longer then.
The thing that I was alluding to was this post: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195657899&postcount=614
Reason: it's given away in the sample PM anyway, but a vanilla townie should have known that they still have names. Therefore to make this mistake, Zeke either had to be a town power role, or scum. Xam made the exact same mistake in Final Fantasy Mafia, and flipped scum.
His later posts on that page were much more obvious about having some sort of power role.
So my question is, I noticed, and I'm assuming that Scrafty noticed, so I'm assuming that we're not the only ones, so why wasn't Zeke targeted by scum last night? He was likely a power role, and less likely to be protected.
The thing that I was alluding to was this post: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195657899&postcount=614
Reason: it's given away in the sample PM anyway, but a vanilla townie should have known that they still have names. Therefore to make this mistake, Zeke either had to be a town power role, or scum. Xam made the exact same mistake in Final Fantasy Mafia, and flipped scum.
His later posts on that page were much more obvious about having some sort of power role.
So my question is, I noticed, and I'm assuming that Scrafty noticed, so I'm assuming that we're not the only ones, so why wasn't Zeke targeted by scum last night? He was likely a power role, and less likely to be protected.
Xamtheking
Member
So, to put it simply, you think Zeke is claiming Wizard when he's actually a Warlock, right?
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I don't follow.
Xamtheking
Member
Here is how I interpret it:
Every night our boy RAGE gets to choose someone
For the next day phase, that person has his/her/its vote disabled or otherwise taken away and RAGE's vote counts double
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Xamtheking
Member
According to Sorian's vote count, he's not lying about his power.
His alignment is what's up in the air.
EzekelRAGE
Member
For why I didn't get targeted - CB/SJ focused on lynching me a majority of the day phase ystrday, so they probably figured they would continue their agenda, so why waste a kill. Assuming the RNH kill was scum and not neutral, they probably couldve used that to make a move to lynch me as well.
Yea, I screwed up there, especially the post after that about Kalor outing a power role. I just pictured the "I have this friend with a problem" think doctors or something hear lol.
EzekelRAGE
Member
Yea, that's it.
I stole ur vote last night, so your vote today doesnt count. It is returned to you after the day phase ends.
You can still vote, just won't count
.Xamtheking
Member
Can you vote/attempt to vote?
I want to see if something happens.
CrimsonFist
Member
If you have a power role, there's a reasonable chance that would clear you, so the level of suspicion on you prior to that would be less relevant. And your level of suspicion was declining after that.
Just to be clear though, that post was my thought process prior to you claiming, I don't consider it conclusive evidence of anything yet.
Yea, that's it.
I stole ur vote last night, so your vote today doesnt count. It is returned to you after the day phase ends.
You can still vote, just won't count
Vote: EzekelRAGE
JERK!
EzekelRAGE
Member
They couldve missed it or figured they could still have enough clout to push a lynch on me today. Could be both.
CrimsonFist
Member
They couldve missed it or figured they could still have enough clout to push a lynch on me today. Could be both.
Both are true, the first especially, which is why I don't consider it conclusive.
CrimsonFist
Member
Well that's interesting.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Now squidy, even though you apparently can't vote today, I'm going to need a serious answer as to who you'd vote for if you were able. In the scenario where both you and Ezekel are both against us, it would be rather easy for you to slip by unnoticed with either no vote at all or a joke vote on Ezekel, so would you be a dear and give it some thought?
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Yea, that's it.
I stole ur vote last night, so your vote today doesnt count. It is returned to you after the day phase ends.
You can still vote, just won't count
Any reason why you stole his vote?
TheWorthyEdge
Member
What is? I'm curious!
CrimsonFist
Member
Squidy's vote appears to have counted.
Xamtheking
Member
I would be extremely surprised if a hypothetically scum RAGE could steal a vote from a fellow hypothetical scum squidyj
CrimsonFist
Member
Actually, my bad, it didn't, missed the numbers
TheGoddamn
Member
It didn't. It was acknowledged, but it didn't count.
Xamtheking
Member
I like your avatar change
Nice and subtle
EzekelRAGE
Member
He was one of two who tried to lynch me ystrday.
I figured him and CB would make a go of it again today, since they felt so strongly about it ystrday.
So stole Squidy's.
EzekelRAGE
Member
As you guys can see from the vote count, if anyone is paying attn, I can't really go unnoticed w/o shadowing Squidy. Then I would have to lie about who I voted for if I wanted to hide my power, or hope Sorian got extremely lazy with counts lol.
TheGoddamn
Member
The darkness of the original badge was annoying me, hahaha. I try to just edit my base avatar to be game-appropriate. Did you catch my HP avatar?
Xamtheking
Member
I wasn't in HP so I didn't really follow it
CrimsonFist
Member
Ok, so the role is real. I'm inclined to believe that it's a town role for now, in part due to you revealing it unprompted and not under pressure, but as you say, it's unlikely to have gone unnoticed for too long regardless.
Since TheGoddamn has started contributing pretty well, so I don't have a reason to keep my vote there:
Vote: Ri'Orius
Hasn't checked in yet, didn't do too much yesterday, so is kind of a null read.
Will read through Squidy/CB's posts tomorrow though to see if I agree with Zeke's conclusions or not.
Since TheGoddamn has started contributing pretty well, so I don't have a reason to keep my vote there:
Vote: Ri'Orius
Hasn't checked in yet, didn't do too much yesterday, so is kind of a null read.
Will read through Squidy/CB's posts tomorrow though to see if I agree with Zeke's conclusions or not.
EzekelRAGE
Member
Also, TWE, what was odd/weird about my vote on Kalor compared to others?
Especially since I probably had the most legit reason to vote for him.
Especially since I probably had the most legit reason to vote for him.
unprompted and not under pressure is not entirely true.
like he said as soon as he voted out of step with me he'd have risked being revealed so there was definitely a level of pressure there on him to come forward with this information, it merely came from within the construct of his ability rather than from another player.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
We can't discount the possibility, though.
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Once you eliminate the impossible, what remains must be the truth.
Now squidy, would you kindly let the court know who you would vote for if you could?
Xamtheking
Member
No I mean likeWe can't discount the possibility, though.
Once you eliminate the impossible, what remains must be the truth.
Now squidy, would you kindly let the court know who you would vote for if you could?
I don't even think that would be a legal command
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
so can i get any reasoning on this?
ScraftyDevil
Banned
But if it was legal, do you not think it would be the perfect cover? I'm simply playing Devil's Advocate here, but I'd rather we not discount any possibilities without concrete proof.
Xamtheking
Member
Valid point.
CornBurrito
Member
For what it is worth, I completely missed that.
Matt Attack
Member
Honestly after thinking about it, I'm not actually that surprised that RNH died. If only one of the NKs is from scum (maybe they are both scum kills, but I'll operate under the assumption that the other was neutral/town for now), he would be the one I'd assume they went after. Leaving aside the potential breadcrumb (I didn't think anything of it, and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of others didn't either), he didn't seem to arouse much controversy. On the contrary, he either stayed as a simple null read (as seen in Xam's read list), albeit (in my opinion) one of the more active ones, or was seen in a more positive light (see my reads list where I list him as leaning town or this post from CB praising him for his willingness to engage.) RNH didn't stand out too much, but at least a few people definitely felt at least somewhat positive about him, so he seems like a pretty natural pick, I think.
Ezekiel's power seems kind of anti-town when I think about it, but considering that there are some town roles in other games that limit voting of town members in some way (like the Bullet Time Battle role from Danganronpa Mafia), I suppose it could definitely still be a town role. I feel like it's unlikely a scumEzekiel would both choose to use his power and claim it at this point, so there's that too.
Ezekiel's power seems kind of anti-town when I think about it, but considering that there are some town roles in other games that limit voting of town members in some way (like the Bullet Time Battle role from Danganronpa Mafia), I suppose it could definitely still be a town role. I feel like it's unlikely a scumEzekiel would both choose to use his power and claim it at this point, so there's that too.
CornBurrito
Member
Ezekiel's role is actually mostly anti-town in practice, but that doesn't mean it isn't a town role.
I personally don't think scum would be saddled with such a visible PR role like that.
I personally don't think scum would be saddled with such a visible PR role like that.