In Alphabetical order:
EzekelRAGE: There's the fact that you've been painting yourself purple even though there's never been direct confirmation that you're town aligned, you don't at least have a check.
You steal votes from people, that has personally never sat well with me. It just doesn't seem very Town to me. You lied, you said that you had to take votes every night and now you're changing your tune and saying that you don't have to do so. If the latter is true then yes, you lied but thinking about it it would not make sense for you to steal votes since Night 1. Personally i'd think that a scum able to steal votes would keep that ability hidden until they've reached a point in the game where the vote stolen would become more of a game changer. Although you did catch heat day 1 but the likelihood of you being able to change the tides on day 2 with your stolen vote seem minimal since there were so many people still left.
You voted for Kalor(Town) on Day 1, the likelihood to save yourself and thus vote for Kalor is high. So personally it was more of a "save myself" vote than a "tactically kill town" move.
Day 2 you had your vote mainly on CB, Scrafty asked you to take it off, eventually you take it off. When you are apparently going to hammer TWE he commits suicide.
Day 3 you turbo SalvaPot. He had a couple of hours left to potentially make a case for himself. For your sake, he's Scum so it works ok that you turbo. It could either be seen that you turbo to stop Scum from potentially tricking us to not lynch them or it could be seen as that you don't want Town to keep talking or that Scum that's already going to die may spill more info than is needed. Personally at first I was considering the latter about you but seeing as you did turboed twice successfully to scum Salva and TheGoddamn plus you were almost gonna do it to TWE leads me to believe that that's just your playstyle. You're an all in, emotional, guns blazing type of guy who just wants to get it over with and I guess that's cool even if it may not be the personal type of style that i prefer. I'm more methodical, analyze as much as possible and maximize the time that we got to strategize and theorize about what to do next.
Although day 4 I personally didn't like your voting actions and reasoning. You went guns blazing with wanting to lynch Stanley based more on wanting to verify that Xam was telling the truth rather than because you thought Stanley was scum. You pushed hard for that even after Scrafty told you that she didn't feel that Stanley was Scum you still voted for him. Plus that was the day that I made my case against MA, the same exact case that you're making today against him.
Instead of spending your one hour or whatever making the case against him you could've literally quoted my posts and you would've had the same exact claim practically. So if you believe all that you say about MA why weren't you there to back me up on D4? Why is it now that you start going against MA for the claim I brought up 2 days ago? Is it just because now you're on the chopping block and you feel that it'll either be you or him?
We could have done this 2 days ago, but no, you wanted to lynch Stanley because you thought it would yield the most info regardless of if you thought he was Scum or not. Almost like if you were making the "safer" play, sound familiar? But now you don't like what seems like the safer play right, because that means your death.
Here's my posts against MA(one which you've quoted) so that you can see how similar your claim is to mine:
Oh the irony...I just post for people not to be hasty and now I'm the one that's rushing so as to get the post out before everyone is gone.
So I had been thinking about the roles everyone claimed. For sure at least 2 or 3 of you must be lying.
I was looking at them and ever since the beginning Matt Attack's role just seemed off.
So according to Matt Attack he can possess those who have been blackmailed and that will clear them.
What a convenient role to have now that Shelly is gone. Now his role is useless so seemingly he's not gonna be doing any movement during the night phase. So why would a tracker even bother tracking him? According to his role he doesn't have anything more to do.
Then there's the fact that he says he possessed Roy to cure his blackmail. Roy was blackmailed N1. States he was blackmailed D2 so then theoretically N2 Matt Attack should've possessed him. D3 Roy is still alive and doesn't comment that he's no longer blackmailed. (I've looked through all D3 quickly and never see Roy say it[he would've most likely said it as soon as the day began](could someone go over them too so as to verify?), plus why would he hide it? he was town and had already put out that he was blackmailed).
Matt Attack says that he doesn't receive a confirmation of his possession and that he doesn't know if Roy received confirmation. So I thought "I guess, that could be possible".
But then I thought about it some more. "But what if Roy had been a PR?" how would he know that he's now allowed to use his PR again? He would've had to receive some sort of confirmation to know.
Some could say, "but Roy was Vanilla, he had no action and thus had no need for a confirmation that he could use his PR again". I don't think Sorian would be biased like that and only send out confirmations to those with PRs. Plus if only those with PRs would receive confirmation of no longer being blackmailed then by that reasoning only PRs should receive confirmation that they're blackmailed. Roy received a blackmail card even though he was vanilla.
Plus now Roy is dead and has no way to say that he was cleared from the blackmail or not, also convenient.
oh, and smaller(maybe meta) detail: Matt Attack just recently flubbed between the names Maya and Mia.
So with that:
VOTE: Matt Attack
btw, Squidy. this doesn't mean Ive forgotten about you.
If Matt Attack is scum, let's not forget he was defending you the most during this day phase.
Ascetic Cop.
No matter how many times SalvaPot would try to blackmail him he'd still be able to check during the night phase. Plus perhaps Drago/SalvaPot could've assumed that they may have blackmailed Xam but then the Xam would still be able to check.
Plus RNH(PW) was pretty strong too, he just never got a chance to use his powers. He had "OBJECTION - Turnabout is fair play (couldnt resist!). While pointing out contradictions, you will become a commuter which means that all actions will have no effect on you during that particular night phase."
Plus Shelly was leaving a paper(technically card) trail, if he had gotten more people blackmailed it would've shown that it's one person doing the blackmailing and eventually he'd probably be traced.
Sure, it's feasible but as stated above we do/did have ways to combat Shelly. It's also feasible that Sorian(or you) may have made up this fake role specifically to make it sound credible for this scenario.
We can't prove that you didn't do anything during the last night phase since as far as people have claimed nobody tracked you that night. From now on you might start abstaining yourself from using your possible Mafia power or you could also just be a goon with no night ability.
Taken with a grain of salt indeed.
Yeah, why wouldn't he reveal it? You talk about leaving scum in an informational disadvantage but that would have also left the rest of Town at an informational disadvantage. Roy had no PR, his only ability was talking and letting Town know what he knew. Plus he also ran the risk of dying and not telling us that he had been cleared from being blackmailed or having the chance to "corroborate" you.
I bet you wish he was here to "corroborate" you now, huh? Too bad you probably killed him. Conveniently he died during the night phase right after Shelly died(when we find out how Shelly's blackmail works) and Roy was no longer blackmailed.
So you probably killed him to cut any possible loose ends and be able to use this role easier since without him around you can say that you cleared his blackmail and he has no say about it.
Or perhaps you were afraid that Roy had an ability and now he'd be able to use it again.
Plausible. As i said, small detail I noticed but that's it.
Admittedly, he has done actions that I've considered Pro-Town, I agree. Plus he has the check from Xam. But lately he did feel suspicious and aggressive. But I guess we'll see what happens at the end of this day phase and after the night phase. From then we'll follow what seems like the best path.
Go ahead and compare it with what you said against MA and you'll see the similarities.
Other things that I noticed was that you really wanted to check StarSketch's claim by her blocking/protecting you. At one point I wondered if maybe you were doing it so that during that night you would receive protection from dying rather than you really wanting to test her powers. There was even a time when I considered that you two were allied since that night that she blocked you the next day the first post was yours, you voted for yourself to check, see that you only took one vote and automatically assume it was Star who blocked you. You didn't for one second stop and consider that it may have been another reason and to me it just came off as too sure and at that point in time we had little knowledge of all the roles and potential switchers and other blockers may have been at play but again I guess it goes with the way you play Mafia.
Day 5 voting you vote last for TheGoddamn so it hardly counts plus honestly voting day 5 TheGoddamn was the easiest thing to do. No one should really be attributed with an "I got scum that day" merit. The only one that could kinda count is Xam but even he had a red check so he knew for sure and at this point Xam is 99.9% Town. Again, the thing I didn't like was your turbo especially after you said you wouldn't. I was only able to read some comments but I was unable to post cause GAF was down. Then I come back and the day is already over and it left us without a chance to form a strategy for today.
Honestly, as I stated before I am more methodical and statistical and I do see that you are the safer choice to lynch today. You're dangerous, not just your characteristics of guns blazing, but the fact that you have the potential to steal votes. If today we fail at lynching a non-town player and If you're Scum then tomorrow you steal a Townie's vote and probably make a kill for your faction. Potentially leaving us at 5 players if the SK also gets a kill. With two votes you'd only need one more for majority and you could easily pounce on anyone's vote that isn't against you to lynch the person.
Flatearthpandas: Hipster votes Kalor day 1. Late vote. Could be seen as just a pile-on and potentially Scum securing the kill. You state that you got 2 scum kill votes under your belt, but one was on the day that you had the second most votes and as Ezekel stated you even said that if the circumstances were different you may have even voted differently that day. The second one was on TheGoddamn which again, as I stated above hardly counts. You had the confirmation by Xam, anyone could have made that vote. No one was gonna get close or defend TheGoddamn at that point.
You were also buddy buddy with Ezekel for lynching Stanley because you felt that it would produce the most info rather than because you thought he was Scum.
You seem to be a more methodical player, trying to think of different theories and trying to act with logical mathematical reasoning. I understand you, I tend to do this and I see why you want to avoid the Godfather angle for today. Although sometimes you also gotta follow your gut.
What I didn't like that I noted was when you were making your reads and called yourself "obviously town", just came off as weird to me. There's also the fact that it seemed that TWE got worried that you weren't responding and that they were voting for you(Hipster Cthulhu).
I personally like that you theorize even if they may seem far fetched. I too at one point was considering CB our neutral so I understand the type of thinking you follow.
As for your new theory, about Mafia earning a kill the night after the neutral sends his request I personally don't think its true. I think that at that point Mafia would certainly be overpowered, permanent blackmail, their own faction kill, tracker, plus also getting an extra kill potentially each night? Seems too much. Plus the client thing was only on Salva's PM. I could see it working as a condition that you can only send kill targets while Shelly is alive but now that Shelly is dead I can't see that theory continuing. At this point if your theory was correct I would've thought that the neutral would've lost because they no longer have Shelly killing for them. Plus I can't see what type of win condition the neutral would need to achieve, get a certain number of kills through Shelly? Plus as for Mafia still taking his requests seems unlikely, he is Shelly's client, not the entirety of Mafia's.
As of now I don't think you're the Godfather but if Squidy were to flip town and we're still pursuing the Godfather angle then I'd definitely take a closer look at you since I feel that you would be able to pull it off.
Matt Attack: Above are my posts about what I think about you. I still think the same. You're role is awfully convenient. It comes in at a time when no one can confirm you and at a point when it is also useless so you say you that you won't use it anymore.
My personal theory about why there was only one kill on Night 4 is that you're the SK and you were afraid about being tracked by a potential Town aligned TheGoddamn who claimed he was a tracker. If you didn't know that he was Scum and you believed or at least held the possibility that he could be saying the truth then it would have been really dangerous for you to kill that night because a Town Aligned tracker could've tracked you. Or you believed TheGoddamn, saw him as the scarier target that could've tracked you and lead to your demise, tried to kill him only to be blocked by StarSketch's protect. Plus you also voted for him day 4, although only with a couple of minutes left. Personally I'm leaning that you're the SK.
(Actually, in general, I think that's probably what happened that night regardless of who the SK is. They believed TheGoddamn about him having tracking abilities(maybe even believed TG was town), considered him the most important target to get rid of, but StarSketch saves TheGoddamn. While CB got killed by Mafia.)
SquidyJ: There's very little I want to point out anymore, you're hardly worth the time at this point. You practically deserve the lynch and perhaps not even because of following a potential Godfather angle. The fact that you turned so rude and unfriendly and that you no longer want to play is just plain...anti-GAFia.
Yeah, you say that now you're more into The Division or whatever, personally I don't buy, and now you've practically stopped posting here.
Even if you're Mafia and you're the last one, your team doesn't deserve this, for you to not even try anymore. They worked hard to try and win and you're not even trying.
And if you're Town then Town players dead or alive also don't deserve it, you're only confusing the rest of Town with your actions.
This is just a game, the point is to have fun.
Personally, when the game first started regardless of your alignment I thought you were a really fun, social, and cool person but nowadays my perception has slowly been tainted. I really hope that I can reverse my outlook of you in the future back to how it was in the beginning.
As for you 3 up there. If Zubz is the Scum or SK and all three of you are Town then you only have yourselves to blame for the rest of us hardly looking at him. You guys fight and draw so much attention to yourselves that he's easily been able to fall into the shadows and all your bickering just makes it feel that at least one of you three isnt Town.
I'm honestly leaning between MA and SJ.
My brain says it's scary to vote SJ based off his check and that it's wiser to lynch an unchecked, thus MA would be the smarter choice.
My gut tells me to just go for SJ, that there's just no way he's not Scum by his reactions.
