Wonko_C
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With how this generation has been with exclusives (there aren't many) it probably isn't a big deal.
Agni's Philosophy runs at 60FPS on a GTX 680, uses 1.8GB VRAM. Can next-gen run it?
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With how this generation has been with exclusives (there aren't many) it probably isn't a big deal.
New 4Gamer Video. Good next gen chara create sliders, wao.
toastyToast
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that hair :O
SniperHunter
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Holy shit
Exentryk
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No. Imagine an open world game like xenoblade or skyrim with such graphics.
You will be seeing severe PS3 memory problems, even on the PC.
Why not both. Fighting game devs use the graphical budget differently than that and I would love seeing fighting game models when devs aren't wasting so much on the background world.
No, Imagine an actual game on that engine..................
SolidSnakex
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eso76
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No, imagine a porn game on that engine !
Zyrusticae
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WOW.
Such excellent character models...
I want to play this on my PC!
I died.
Parallax Mapping on Dat Ass
SolidSnakex
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A very long article about the engine (all in Japanese)
http://www.4gamer.net/games/032/G00.../www.abload.de/img/004fmo1q.jpg[/img][/quote]
http://www.4gamer.net/games/032/G00.../www.abload.de/img/004fmo1q.jpg[/img][/quote]
dat old man eyebrow hair
JordanN
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A very long article about the engine (all in Japanese)
R.I.P developers next gen.
If that level of detail becomes standard, I can see many studios crashing. And that's not even populating such towns with people.
Nope.
Remember the jump from Grand Theft Auto on PS2 to current gen consoles?
This is just another obvious step.
JordanN
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I don't see how your point invalidates what I said.
Technology moves fast.
SE shouldn't be a benchmark for console game development either.
JordanN
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But manpower needed to get the most out of technology doesn't.
Depends. If this demo is being touted as the new standard for next gen and we have other competing companies presenting something similar then it's a problem.Reiko said:
SolidSnakex
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That's nothing new though. Don't you remember the T-Rex demo on the PSone? All of the PS2 tech demos (Reiko, old guy from TSW etc.)? The real problem is that this gen killed the mid-tier market. That developer that once never attempted to compete with Square, Naughty Dog, Bungie etc. now pretty much has to in order to get their retail game funded by a publisher. And that leads to a lot of crashing and burning.
Gemüsepizza
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Nextgen will be amazing!
You should write them, I am sure they will appreciate your opinion as an expert and your experience on this topic.
Devs just have to become smarter. You don't build towns from scratch, and all buildings by hand. You'd use tools to grow your towns procedurally, and add detail in by hand where needed. Seeded from a core set of buildings that have been designed, but with tweaks made on each copy/paste based on rules (eg ageing, add storeys, move windows, change colours)
shinra-bansho
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What was the polygon count?
JordanN
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According to Square Enix, there are scenes with as much as 10 million polygons.
nelsonroyale
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Incredible, just incredible. These character models look a huge step up...
disappeared
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No fucking way.
I can see generic looking games being common then...
Times are changing. Even the Unreal Engine look is going to go away thanks to advancements in realtime lighting tech.
Sounds like something I don't want to buy.
Doesn't mean it has to look generic. Just that the artist can concentrate on designing the feel and uniqueness of a city rather than the humdrum element. Most towns have repeating buildings after all, and many develop organically over time.
This. Of course tricks can be use smartly...
The whole "Unreal engine look" is essentially cultural , not technical.
GhostTrick
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HollovVpo1nt
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Nah, there will be better toolsets etc. Besides, developers already develope highly detailed games today, the differemce is that they have to downgrade them to PS3/360.
JordanN
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I'm not aware of any developer who builds levels 10x bigger than what current consoles can actually handle. So that's definitely going to take more time and goes back to the problem I'm speaking of.
And having better toolsets doesn't matter if games aren't being made faster. Well, you could hypothetically create current gen games faster, but is that the standard you want on hardware more capable than that?
dragonelite
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In that picture you can clearly see all the houses are no more then what 40 polygons.
You can probably automate that and let a artist clean up some of the miss placed geometry.
