Werewolf Jones
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Where in my post did I say the ending to Code Geass was bad? You were the one who jumped to that conclusion, I'm afraid.
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Aldnoah Zero Season 2 |OT| Inaho or Out, It's All The Slaine
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Where in my post did I say the ending to Code Geass was bad? You were the one who jumped to that conclusion, I'm afraid.
Uhhh? You were comparing this entire show to Code Geass, consider clarifying if you haven't even seen the second season.
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
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Well, that's that i guess. The Earth force other than Inaho now become competent (with the help of Inaho data link, whatever that mean), Inaho have one last fight with Slaine. Princess NTR is for real instead of a cop-out. Man, i think the show want to show the raise and fall of Slaine Troyard, but someone also want to show Inaho being OP. As a result, a half assed show that don't know what it wanted to be. Not to mention there's a lot of tension that didn't deliver. Inko finding out about Inaho freeing Mazureek? No longer mentioned, just there for the tension. Inaho eye side effect? Well, don't worry, just take off the damn thing, and he'll be fine. Morito PTSD? Well he get over it during timeskip. Captain Margaret hatred toward Morito? Was it resolved? I don't know. DId the vice captain get a boyfriend? (Please let her have a boyfriend, she have enough joke from the captain).
Oh well, at least it was entertaining.
Edit: Inko and Inaho issue did resolve the issue about Mazureek. my bad
Well, that's that i guess. The Earth force other than Inaho now become competent (with the help of Inaho data link, whatever that mean), Inaho have one last fight with Slaine. Princess NTR is for real instead of a cop-out. Man, i think the show want to show the raise and fall of Slaine Troyard, but someone also want to show Inaho being OP. As a result, a half assed show that don't know what it wanted to be. Not to mention there's a lot of tension that didn't deliver. Inko finding out about Inaho freeing Mazureek? No longer mentioned, just there for the tension. Inaho eye side effect? Well, don't worry, just take off the damn thing, and he'll be fine. Morito PTSD? Well he get over it during timeskip. Captain Margaret hatred toward Morito? Was it resolved? I don't know. DId the vice captain get a boyfriend? (Please let her have a boyfriend, she have enough joke from the captain).
Oh well, at least it was entertaining.
Edit: Inko and Inaho issue did resolve the issue about Mazureek. my bad
Another season? No, it's not going to happen.
For one, Inaho's eye is gone. He can't save the day.
I did want to see Inaho take out Slaine. When he started to self-destruct the base, I thought he was going to get off easy. Living might have been a worse punishment for Slaine, but Inaho spilled the beans instantly reforming Slaine. Forgiveness is a good thing, but what a shit eater Slaine was... At least we can rest easy in the fact that Inaho only held back because of the Princess.
I can't believe I'm defending this show but I feel that at least parts of his of his turn towards the dark side were written fairly well. He thought that only Saazbaum could save Asseylum with Vers technology so he decided to work with him. (Why Saaz-chan didn't finish the job after recovering from wounds is another question.) When Slaine took power for himself he couldn't just put a stop to the war even if he wanted. The other knights wouldn't go along with it.
And then he went crazy or something I guess.
The issue with Inko knowing about circumstances of Maazurek's escape was resolved earlier I think ? Inaho even apologised to her IIRC.
You give the writers far too much credit. Inaho can get a new eye like nothing. Probably an updated version without the drawbacks if need be.
If Inaho had taken out Slaine, there would be an even bigger asterix to that feat than there is now. The writers should have never made Slaine a competent mech pilot if they were just going to nerf him for the final battle.
I still don't understand the hate for Slaine and likely never will. Here you have the one character with some actual motivations and substantial development, and yet so many of you hate him because he isn't the infallible brick that is Inaho. I just don't get it. The closest this show has ever gotten close to good writing is Slaine and his story. That's it. The rest is just there, uninteresting filler to satiate the innate narcissm of Inaho fanboys.
It's a small consolation that Slaine is apparently the most popular character in Japan. I wouldn't be surprised if in season 3 they completely redeem him to the point of white and black heroics as opposed to his morally gray pattern in the second season. If Dr Troyard still lives and comes into focus in whatever comes next, be it a third season, movies or novels, there will be plenty of avenues for that.
Valkerionseven
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It was, the only thing original in the show was the mech design. Literally everything else was a copy paste of other anime with a giant robot in it. Shit even their ending, was literally just a scene by scene of End of Evangelion or w/e it was when they killed all the staff of NERV. Could honestly do a side by side of 90% of Valvrave and some other show and have the angle of animation and timing be the same I'm sure haha.
Either way, these anime really need to get solid writers. They always have great potential and the ends are just like "welp we ran out of episodes so its over -credits-"
I'd rather a stupid ending over a boring one. But is been about marketing characters who can sell clear files and towels and shit for years anyway over the actual show/series itself so not like we can expect to much. Seems like shows that are awesome stories to the end are more a surprise than an expectation sadly.
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
Really? Guess i need to pay more attention.
Werewolf Jones
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Comparing 25 episodes to 24 episodes is pretty fair, I think.
I'd be inclined to agree based on how the first season ends and the second begins. Code Geass is a fun romp but it's as overrated as Death Note, albeit not as asinine in its later acts.
Yes, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Wasn't sure if I didn't hallucinate it so I tracked it down. Episode 18. Scene begins at 18:55.
Seductivpancakes
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Pretty anti climatic for me. I don't hate it, but I don't particularly like it.
I'm guessing there will be a movie or ovas to follow up on Slaine? I feel like this entire series was set up to piss on Slaine. He ain't a bad guy but they had like no idea what to do with his character.
I'm guessing there will be a movie or ovas to follow up on Slaine? I feel like this entire series was set up to piss on Slaine. He ain't a bad guy but they had like no idea what to do with his character.
J
Jpop
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I feel the same.
MichaÅ Jaworski
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So… with the finale of ANZ and TGRA Winter of retards came to the end. One one side Ken Kaaaaaneki!
“I’m need to get stronger to protect everyone… but since one of my friends died, I’m going to disregard Touka and others – and commit theatrical suicide by walking through enemy camp like a boss, cause evidently this is how I roll…”
On the other side – Kaizuka Iiiiiiiinaho!
“Please save him (Slaine) from chains of misery – said princess”
“Ok, so I’m gonna deny him warrior’s death. Putting defeated enemy behind bars definitely won’t strip him of dignity or make him miserable…”
Even though I was #TeamInaho all the way, feel kidna bad for Slaine.
ANZ finale was disappointing to say the least. It was ‘safe-route’, lukewarm ending that (I’m guessing) didn’t satisfy anyone. Both Inaho and Slaine deserved better sendoff, don’t even get me started on NTR Queen. Genius that wrote the script really needs to leave industry.
Who the fk though that after 20 episodes of rivalry between 2 MCs it’s a good idea to marry princess to some random dude that came from nowhere… Yes, in grand scheme of things it might make more sense, but we’re talking about mecha-anime not some Game of Thrones spinoff! If realism stands in a way of satisfying ending – then it’s too bad for realism.
Inaho… I hoped he would shot Slaine on that beach, but hey – whatever. I actually liked that he hasn’t show at the Aldnoah Reactor Activation ceremony. In a way, he was showing middle finger to ASSeylum.
In the end I didn’t like the finale. TGRA or ANZ - which one was more disappointing? TBH - hard to tell. In TG they at least tried to end the series with some emotion-inducing scene, which was pretty powerful – I’ll admit – but couldn’t cover for senseless script in season 2. In ANZ ending was lukewarm at best, I can’t even bother to be mad because I don’t care. So much potential wasted…
Bottom line – even though ANZ had great production values, I think Cross Ange was better mecha anime of this winter. If you can look past extensive fan service and goofiness of the show, it’s pretty enjoyable and hilarious at times. Not to mention – it actually ends in a way most viewer can appreciate.
“I’m need to get stronger to protect everyone… but since one of my friends died, I’m going to disregard Touka and others – and commit theatrical suicide by walking through enemy camp like a boss, cause evidently this is how I roll…”
On the other side – Kaizuka Iiiiiiiinaho!
“Please save him (Slaine) from chains of misery – said princess”
“Ok, so I’m gonna deny him warrior’s death. Putting defeated enemy behind bars definitely won’t strip him of dignity or make him miserable…”
Even though I was #TeamInaho all the way, feel kidna bad for Slaine.
ANZ finale was disappointing to say the least. It was ‘safe-route’, lukewarm ending that (I’m guessing) didn’t satisfy anyone. Both Inaho and Slaine deserved better sendoff, don’t even get me started on NTR Queen. Genius that wrote the script really needs to leave industry.
Who the fk though that after 20 episodes of rivalry between 2 MCs it’s a good idea to marry princess to some random dude that came from nowhere… Yes, in grand scheme of things it might make more sense, but we’re talking about mecha-anime not some Game of Thrones spinoff! If realism stands in a way of satisfying ending – then it’s too bad for realism.
Inaho… I hoped he would shot Slaine on that beach, but hey – whatever. I actually liked that he hasn’t show at the Aldnoah Reactor Activation ceremony. In a way, he was showing middle finger to ASSeylum.
In the end I didn’t like the finale. TGRA or ANZ - which one was more disappointing? TBH - hard to tell. In TG they at least tried to end the series with some emotion-inducing scene, which was pretty powerful – I’ll admit – but couldn’t cover for senseless script in season 2. In ANZ ending was lukewarm at best, I can’t even bother to be mad because I don’t care. So much potential wasted…
Bottom line – even though ANZ had great production values, I think Cross Ange was better mecha anime of this winter. If you can look past extensive fan service and goofiness of the show, it’s pretty enjoyable and hilarious at times. Not to mention – it actually ends in a way most viewer can appreciate.
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
Okay, i check it out and...
Yeah, i guess Inaho really does know everything, and that resolution is, how i say it, weak? I mean, Inaho just said he know Inko got involved and that's it. Still, they did mention it, so one part of my complain striked out.
Thanks.
How sad is it that this the one time we've seen Slaine happy and it was in a flashback?
This show truly is the Slain Suffers Show.
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Totally down for this happening in the sequel.
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[IMG]https://voiceofthenorth.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/az8-1.png[/IMG]This show truly is the Slain Suffers Show.
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Totally down for this happening in the sequel.
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[IMG]https://41.media.tumblr.com/383049feae804ce362b6a0bee3f32236/tumblr_nlzga0K3do1u5d7u9o1_540.jpg[/IMG]Because people survives gunshots to the head in this show.
That's a very good point. Forget I said anything.
Frog was banned?
I was gonna say that art at the bottom of their post was really funny and Slaine's expression would probably be something like that lol
Frog was banned?
I was gonna say that art at the bottom of their post was really funny and Slaine's expression would probably be something like that lol
He probably couldn't handle Slaine's end and decided to end his account in the same way Slaine-sama tried to end his life.
That or s/he should stop shitposting everywhere.
Werewolf Jones
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Did Duckroll not post his opinion on the finale yet either? I know he too was pro-Slaine.
I think he was just trolling Team Inaho. He probably got tired of it by now heh.
Werewolf Jones
Member
Don't crush my dreams.
He's as likely to be #TeamSlaine as he is to be #TeamSawano.
I just watched in the ending and I'M MAD the ending makes no sense. Let me get this straight:
The orbital knights made their own kingdoms on earth and are now going to magically give them back because the original princess is peaceful towards earth.
Slaine is supposedly serving a life sentence for fulfilling his duty as a knight.
Slaine is supposedly serving a life sentence for fulfilling his duty as a knight.
Everything is copacetic and peaceful.
We need a third season of revenge where Slaine comes back and leads people into space.
My unresolved issues:
What happened to Princess Lemrina?
What happened to Harklight?
Is Dr. Troyard alive somewhere?
How long will peace last between the orbital knights on earth and the rest of the world?
Absolute anger over the way they made Slaine into an escapegoat (yes, I know the word is scape goat but fuck that I'm mad). At the very least let him ride off into the sunset with his knights, princess and build a future on another planet.
What happened to Harklight?
Is Dr. Troyard alive somewhere?
How long will peace last between the orbital knights on earth and the rest of the world?
Absolute anger over the way they made Slaine into an escapegoat (yes, I know the word is scape goat but fuck that I'm mad). At the very least let him ride off into the sunset with his knights, princess and build a future on another planet.
*EDIT for more hurt*
Can we attach dat 'Uchiha asterisk to the final battle? Slaine went into the battle unprepared versus Inaho who had prep time and knowledge at his disposal. Do i have to spoiler tag stuff or not? I edited in spoilers just in case no one saw the finale.
darkblade77
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This is a great summary and largely mirrors my own thoughts upon seeing the ending. What a waste. Literally nothing mattered and magical peace faeries fix everything because reasons.
If they do a S3 or an OVA or something, my guess it'll be because of how Asseylum threw Slaine's attempt at changing the feudal Vers society under the bus by picking a noble to marry(I guess ironically if she'd married Inaho, it would have still accomplished Slaine's intentions on that front). He was starting to see results, so an active have-nots Vers faction isn't too farfetched to throw into the mix. Then again, maybe those magical peace fairies already fixed all of Vers' problems, idk.
MHWilliams
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I'm glad Inaho won, but this ending:
Not sure I even want more of this crap, but it's be easy to make more. The peace is built on a lie after all. Not to mention a good number of Vers Knights aren't satisfied the decision if the news lady is anything to go off of. Not to mention if Earth gets Aldnoah activation powers, what will Earth need Vers for anymore?
Seductivpancakes
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OVAs are coming I bet. Only way to explain this lack luster ending.
formasymphonic
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For me, this was the absolute killer of the ending.
Fair enough using his "death" as a milestone to end the fight (that was his objective in staying to destroy the base / go down fighting Inaho) but after everything he had been through to find Asseylum and protect her;
- having to kill Krillram,
- breaking out of Crutheo's castle,
- the torture in ep 8,
- swearing allegiance + the work he put in for Saazbaum in exchange for saving her life
...for them to blame *him* of all people as the one who plotted her assassination was just too cruel.
- having to kill Krillram,
- breaking out of Crutheo's castle,
- the torture in ep 8,
- swearing allegiance + the work he put in for Saazbaum in exchange for saving her life
...for them to blame *him* of all people as the one who plotted her assassination was just too cruel.
Anyone who doesn't agree should re-watch episode 8 again and then look at that part of the ending.
Episode 24 (End)
Wow, what a disappointing way to end the show. There was nothing satisfying or earned with the way it concluded, and most of what actually happened in the episode seemed to happen for no reason. Why was Slaine trying to destroy the base? Why did his forces return to fight? What were they fighting for? How did Asseylum actually convince everyone else on Mars to let her do what she did? Where did the Aldnoah Reactor technology come from? With all the resentment during the war, how is it that there aren't more remnants out to assassinate and derail the peace negotiations? I couldn't even tell half of what was going on in the action either. Just quick cuts and shit exploding everywhere.
Meh!
Wow, what a disappointing way to end the show. There was nothing satisfying or earned with the way it concluded, and most of what actually happened in the episode seemed to happen for no reason. Why was Slaine trying to destroy the base? Why did his forces return to fight? What were they fighting for? How did Asseylum actually convince everyone else on Mars to let her do what she did? Where did the Aldnoah Reactor technology come from? With all the resentment during the war, how is it that there aren't more remnants out to assassinate and derail the peace negotiations? I couldn't even tell half of what was going on in the action either. Just quick cuts and shit exploding everywhere.
Meh!
what the hell happened here? why did slaine forget what happened with the three knights who died at earth? why did he give up at the end? where did that faceless bastard come from? did the princess use a geass on even the same shady humans who tried to assassinate her just one episode away from the ending? why did no fuck human bastard die and no sight of any martian at all?
JUST WHO THE FUCK WROTE THIS?
JUST WHO THE FUCK WROTE THIS?
Didn't watch that. Might as well never.
EmpressInYellow
Banned
Hah. Mirai Nikki is, uh...very very different in tone. It's most certainly not a "no one dies" show.
I dunno. I didn't think the ending was terrible, but it was just sort of...there, without a lot of weight or payoff.
Admittedly, I sort of like seeing Slaine humiliated, because what an asshole.
JoeyJungle
Banned
Ugh I thought maybe this was bumped because season 3 was announced. So disappointed, I sincerely want more of this trainwreck show.
There was an official Aldnoah.Zero event in japan a few days ago called "Extra Day"(event page there, director, staff, VA etc went), where they showed an "episode 24.5", which is a post finale epilogue of sorts. It is only audio, but I figure it may be worth posting.
I found it here but the text is a little annoying to read so you can check it here as well
I will post an excerpt as it is a bit long.
In addition to this, a few months ago fans on twitter could have forwarded questions to the staff which they would then answer in a booklet given at the event. The translation is here
One question from an english fan managed to get in
I found it here but the text is a little annoying to read so you can check it here as well
I will post an excerpt as it is a bit long.
In addition to this, a few months ago fans on twitter could have forwarded questions to the staff which they would then answer in a booklet given at the event. The translation is here
One question from an english fan managed to get in
Dedication Through Light
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So glad he has his Inaho to keep coming and that it seems Inaho only has Slaine for himself.
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