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Aldnoah Zero Season 2 |OT| Inaho or Out, It's All The Slaine

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Frog-fu

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Bombless said:
Slaine said "I FOUND HER!" on the radio. Thus Inaho realised he helped the terrans before he knew the princess was there.

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The fact he was looking for the princess and attacked/helped to kill a knight should make it obvious he's not the enemy. Now add in the fact he would undoubtedly have to get out of his to see her, there would have been no issue to restrain him and guarantee the princess' safety. Hell, he could've been set up to communicate by video or whatever.

Inaho is up to something the stoic dickbag.
 
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zonezeus

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My take is that Inaho is a cold cold motherfucker who wants to use Asseylum to win the war and simply sees Slaine as an obstacle to that goal. He thinks of Slaine as an enemy not because he wants Asseylum's harm but rather the opposite - because he's most probably her friend he might not be down with Inaho using her as tool for war, so he sacrifices one potential tool of less worth (Slaine and his skycarrier) for another of much more worth (princess and her Aldnoah).

#TeamInaho

EDIT: And let's not forget about the best scene of the episode:

"Mada-"
*KLANG!*
*BOOM!*
 
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Klyka

Banned
Cloud Strife said:
As realistic as it might be, it's pretty anti-climactic if there is little difficulty beyond deus-ex hidden warship or Inaho's supercomputer analyses.
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Well to be fair we have seen exactly 0 from the rest of the world cause of the comm block.
And even the Knights barely communicate with each other.
The only Earth forces we saw were the ones who had to take the initial attack and had no idea what they were dealing with and then of curse the cannon fodder mooks.
 
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Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Klyka said:
Well to be fair we have seen exactly 0 from the rest of the world cause of the comm block.
And even the Knights barely communicate with each other.
The only Earth forces we saw were the ones who had to take the initial attack and had no idea what they were dealing with and then of curse the cannon fodder mooks.
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I think that even Storm Troopers live longer than the Earth forces did...
 
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Klyka

Banned
One thing I have to say btw is that I love the way the Earth Kataphrakts move.
It's got something very satisfying to it when they run around with that music blaring. And Inaho using his trainer Kat the whole time and thereby being "that Orange Kat" is kinda awesome.
 
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Aureon

Please do not let me serve on a jury. I am actually a crazy person.
Frog-fu said:
The fact he was looking for the princess and attacked/helped to kill a knight should make it obvious he's not the enemy. Now add in the fact he would undoubtedly have to get out of his to see her, there would have been no issue to restrain him and guarantee the princess' safety. Hell, he could've been set up to communicate by video or whatever.

Inaho is up to something the stoic dickbag.
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Actually, no.
Inaho has already seen a Orbital Knight willing to kill the princess.
Remember that the Orbital Knights are not a monolithic entity, and furthermore, there's both saboteurs and loyalists in them, as far as Inaho knows.

Inaho's current theory is, likely, that Slaine is a saboteur, as was after a loyalist knight - or that they were already doing territorial squibbles.

After all, only saboteurs know that the Princess is alive.
 
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Nightengale

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I'm thinking that Inaho isn't exactly thinking straight when it comes to Asseylum right now.

For someone who's not known to be very reckless (according to his friends), he's already twice now leapt head-first into a high risk situation, and both times,they showed him paying specific attention to Asseylum that doesn't have any hints of anything with malice or even altruistic in terms of doing it for Earth.

Slaine's definitely in the wrong for not clarifying his stance, but Inaho was definitely pretty confrontational at that exchange, and damn if that last sentence from him didn't feel bitter.
 
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Heysoos

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GreatCharleston said:
Dunno why Inaho didn't keep his mouth shut and use Slain to his full advantage but whatever.
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What did Inaho need to keep his mouth shut about? He really didn't say anything. If anything Slaine should have been more clear about his motives and it would have probably cleared up any misunderstandings, instead of just demanding to be taken to the princess. Only the wanted her dead knew she was alive in the first place.
 
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killer rin

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I do hope that Slaine's ship didn't get too damaged when it crashed into the water. It would be a shame if they lost that considering it would be another asset that can be used in the war when they eventually make up.

I mean that showed that he knows how to repair to a couple episodes ago, but that might be a little hard if it underwater.
 
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Frog-fu

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Aureon said:
Actually, no.
Inaho has already seen a Orbital Knight willing to kill the princess.
Remember that the Orbital Knights are not a monolithic entity, and furthermore, there's both saboteurs and loyalists in them, as far as Inaho knows.

Inaho's current theory is, likely, that Slaine is a saboteur, as was after a loyalist knight - or that they were already doing territorial squibbles.

After all, only saboteurs know that the Princess is alive.
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What? Slaine was saving them because the princess was there. He clearly was not one of the knights trying to kill her. Inaho's theory is based on nothing. At the least he could have had him come onboard in a detention facility and then had the princess speak to him when it was safe. Shooting him down made no sense.
 
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Bombless

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Frog-fu said:
What? Slaine was saving them because the princess was there. He clearly was not one of the knights trying to kill her. Inaho's theory is based on nothing. At the least he could have had him come onboard in a detention facility and then had the princess speak to him when it was safe. Shooting him down made no sense.
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Slaine did not say he had come to save the princess at any time so Inaho had no way to know that. In addition, Slaine aimed his guns at Inaho first and instead of answering Inaho's question he shot at him.
 
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Frog-fu

Banned
Bombless said:
Slaine did not say he had come to save the princess at any time so Inaho had no way to know that. In addition, Slaine aimed his guns at Inaho first and instead of answering Inaho's question he shot at him.
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Slaine didn't have to say it. It was obvious when he spoke to Inaho. He trained his guns because he was supsicious but didn't fire them. Inaho shouldn't have shot him down when he could have taken him aboard their massive ship for questioning. I'mma lol at y'all if he has an ulterior motive that's not wholesome.
 
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SOLDIER

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My sole complaint of the series so far is that the martians have been largely depicted as irredeemable bastards who care less about avenging their princess and more about having an excuse to exterminate the inferior Terrans.

But with next week's episode, we now have the two martians we do[/i[ care about put into their most perilous situation yet....which suddenly makes me think the previous antics of the enemy martians were intentional to install that level of hatred and doubt toward the martians who don't mean the earthlings any harm.

Who is going to trust Slaine and the princess now? What we thought was empathy from Inaho's end is now confirmed to just keeping a potential tool at hand, and he may speak against Slaine just to keep him imprisoned/executed so he won't interfere with his plans.

What felt like poor characterization now feels highly intentional. I'm really looking forward to the next episode.
 
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Xamdou

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Inaho will take full advantage of the princess to give Terrans a fighting chance against the Martians by whatever means necessary.

#TeamInaho
 
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Bob Coffee

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Vvv is always a fun watch. In any case I'm intrested in seeing the explantion of how and why the terrans found the "yamato" there just chillin in tanegashima. Reverse engineered martian tech, but lacking the aldonah stuff to make it work? Or remnants of what came during heavens fall?
 
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CornBurrito

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Frog-fu said:
Slaine didn't have to say it. It was obvious when he spoke to Inaho. He trained his guns because he was supsicious but didn't fire them. Inaho shouldn't have shot him down when he could have taken him aboard their massive ship for questioning. I'mma lol at y'all if he has an ulterior motive that's not wholesome.
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Obvious to the viewer is not the same as obvious to the characters.
 
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squadr0n

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When do the previews usually come out for next weeks episode?

Also how long is this series going to be? This is turning out to quickly be my new favorite show each week. This show just destroys the genre and makes it its bitch, the mechs arent over powered at all and the battles actually make sense. I hate fights that just turn into DBZ where they lose until the final instant and use some new ultra powerful move.
 
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-Horizon-

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Inaho would've shot down Slaine regardless of his answers to Inaho's questioning or actions.
Would there have been anything that Slaine could've said that would convince Inaho otherwise? Doubt it. Assuming Inaho is also assuming anyone who knows about the princess still being alive is most likely part of the conspirator group, the questioning was just a pointless formality and the decision to shoot him down was already made.
Disable the aircraft and capture the pilot was probably his plan all along.
 
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Ponn

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Frog-fu said:
Slaine didn't have to say it. It was obvious when he spoke to Inaho. He trained his guns because he was supsicious but didn't fire them. Inaho shouldn't have shot him down when he could have taken him aboard their massive ship for questioning. I'mma lol at y'all if he has an ulterior motive that's not wholesome.
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Well Slaine obviously wouldnt know where the princess is so he couldnt just "attack them and kill her" blindly. Thats a horrible assassin and Inaho knows they already screwed up once. Remember, they havent been parading her out in the open for a good reason. They tried to kill their own princess so he knows they will have no scruples attacking their own. Lastly he knows the martians have highly advanced technology, letting a possible assassin on board their ship within striking or exploding distance of the princess would be an incredibly bad idea.

I like Slaine, but Inaho did the right thing in this instance.
 
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AnathemicOne

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Slaine shooting first, once the bluray for this season comes out it will be edited to have Inaho shooting first, GeorgeLucasTrollStyle.
 
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Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
aaaaaaaaand as usual all the mooks stand around wasting ammo and getting slaughtered lol are the "kids" the only ones who got actual training or what?
 
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Frog-fu

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Ponn01 said:
Well Slaine obviously wouldnt know where the princess is so he couldnt just "attack them and kill her" blindly. Thats a horrible assassin and Inaho knows they already screwed up once. Remember, they havent been parading her out in the open for a good reason. They tried to kill their own princess so he knows they will have no scruples attacking their own. Lastly he knows the martians have highly advanced technology, letting a possible assassin on board their ship within striking or exploding distance of the princess would be an incredibly bad idea.

I like Slaine, but Inaho did the right thing in this instance.
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So Inaho just assumed that the Martian that helped them kill another Martian still wants to kill the princess? Why would she even have to be in striking distance of Slaine to talk? They could have patched her in their chat or set up a conference, or they could have kept talking for longer than 1 fucking minute. I don't buy it.

AdrianWerner said:
What he did was far more effective and safer. So I see no problem with this. You act like he killed the poor dude instead of simply capturing him
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Come now, he shot down the guy that saved their collective asses based on a hunch after 2 questions.
 
Wiktor

Wiktor

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Frog-fu said:
Come now, he shot down the guy that saved their collective asses based on a hunch after 2 questions.
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The same guy who almost destroyed their plan in Episode 3 and attacked his comrades. The fact that he helped them now is why he only shot him down instead of ending his life.
 
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ThatChairMan

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-Horizon- said:
Inaho would've shot down Slaine regardless of his answers to Inaho's questioning or actions.
Would there have been anything that Slaine could've said that would convince Inaho otherwise? Doubt it. Assuming Inaho is also assuming anyone who knows about the princess still being alive is most likely part of the conspirator group, the questioning was just a pointless formality and the decision to shoot him down was already made.
Disable the aircraft and capture the pilot was probably his plan all along.
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This is what I believe. Inaho's response to Slaine's question seemed odd, since there was no way that wouldn't be taken as offensive.

Also, if Slaine shot first, how did he miss an unmoving target when the entire episode showed how good of a shot he was?
 
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massoluk

Banned
JKLee said:
This is what I believe. Inaho's response to Slaine's question seemed odd, since there was no way that wouldn't be taken as offensive.

Also, if Slaine shot first, how did he miss an unmoving target when the entire episode showed how good of a shot he was?
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Is this up for debate somehow?
 
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John Kowalski

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JKLee said:
Also, if Slaine shot first, how did he miss an unmoving target when the entire episode showed how good of a shot he was?
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I believe the scene was meant to imply that when Slaine shot his guns, Inaho was already falling down.

Terrans really are terrible after all.
 
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Ponn

Banned
Frog-fu said:
So Inaho just assumed that the Martian that helped them kill another Martian still wants to kill the princess? Why would she even have to be in striking distance of Slaine to talk? They could have patched her in their chat or set up a conference, or they could have kept talked for longer than 1 fucking minute. I don't buy it.



Come now, he shot down the guy that saved their collective asses based on a hunch after 2 questions.
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Like I said before, he knows they are dealing with assassins that are willing to kill their own princess so why wouldn't they kill each other. I mean, they did in fact kill their own even though he wasn't there to watch it but its not far fetched at all to assume a group thats willing to assassinate their own princess is willing to kill one of their own to get closer to the princess. I'm not sure why this is so hard to believe given what we have already seen especially.

As for the rest, Inaho don't shiv man. They are in an intense situation and he's not F'ng around. Answer his damn question or get put down, that simple.
 
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-Horizon-

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Ponn01 said:
Like I said before, he knows they are dealing with assassins that are willing to kill their own princess so why wouldn't they kill each other. I mean, they did in fact kill their own even though he wasn't there to watch it but its not far fetched at all to assume a group thats willing to assassinate their own princess is willing to kill one of their own to get closer to the princess. I'm not sure why this is so hard to believe given what we have already seen especially.

As for the rest, Inaho don't shiv man. They are in an intense situation and he's not F'ng around. Answer his damn question or get put down, that simple.
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What could Slaine have said that would convince Inaho he wasn't an enemy?

Nothing. Inaho would've still shot Slaine down to be on the safe side. Disable the aircraft. Capture the pilot. Then cross examine him. If Inaho is as cautious of assassins still going after the princess, this would've been his mindset.
 
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Ponn

Banned
-Horizon- said:
What could Slaine have said that would convince Inaho he wasn't an enemy?

Nothing. Inaho would've still shot Slaine down to be on the safe side. Disable the aircraft. Capture the pilot. Then cross examine him. If Inaho is as cautious of assassins still going after the princess, this would've been his mindset.
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Offered him some pie maybe. There has to be something that brings joy to Inaho's life, why not pie.
 
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