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Alice: Madness Returns |OT|
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I`m stuck again...just at the start of chapter 4,after the first few jumps you go into a big square room
and at the other end there`s 2 switches on the floor...the one on the right raises a door to another room in the distance but it`s way to far to jump and float to,and the switch on the left doesn`t seem to do anything but that switch is probably the key to what i`m missing to reach that sliding door in the distance.
with all the playing cards
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Ricker said:
shrink. the one on the left lowers a platform to reach a higher platform to take you over to the other side.
edit: or leng jai will spell it out for you step by step.
Ricker said:
The right switch controls the door. The left switch controls the elevating platform (its hidden, shrink to reveal it). Place the bomb on the left switch first, then press the right switch to open the door. The hidden platform should be low enough for you to jump onto it now. Detonate the bomb to elevate it to the path above...voila.
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no one has really done any major benchmarking like this, but Physxinfo have some comments on performance and some suggested tweaks to even out the lower framedrops.Corky said:
http://physxinfo.com/news/5883/gpu-physx-in-alice-madness-returns/
So I've played about an hour (according to my save) and I LOVE this game!
- The platforming is great and very old school which I particularly appreciate nowadays.
- The combat so far is very solid, attacking feels good and I like that Zelda-like type of camera/lock-on the game has also they nailed it with the dodge/teleport it feels great and I personally use it a lot.
I know it's still very early but I'm definitely liking what I'm playing so far, I have high hopes for the rest of the game and it's definitely delivering, probably sleeper hit of the year for me unless the game takes a nose dive and/or a better game comes along.
I'm a bit bummed about having to give up on Physx though, I'm running AMD and had it at medium but man after getting the pepper gun I was having some serious framerate drops as low as 8 FPS and they weren't just spikes the whole scene hovered around that for a long time so I had to turn it back to low, I sure miss some effects like when you jump or falling particles in some places but I have to admit that running Physx on low gives me 60 FPS steady everywhere and it feels good!
I just wish they wouldn't have used Physx on some really basic stuff that adds so much to the game.
- The platforming is great and very old school which I particularly appreciate nowadays.
- The combat so far is very solid, attacking feels good and I like that Zelda-like type of camera/lock-on the game has also they nailed it with the dodge/teleport it feels great and I personally use it a lot.
I know it's still very early but I'm definitely liking what I'm playing so far, I have high hopes for the rest of the game and it's definitely delivering, probably sleeper hit of the year for me unless the game takes a nose dive and/or a better game comes along.
I'm a bit bummed about having to give up on Physx though, I'm running AMD and had it at medium but man after getting the pepper gun I was having some serious framerate drops as low as 8 FPS and they weren't just spikes the whole scene hovered around that for a long time so I had to turn it back to low, I sure miss some effects like when you jump or falling particles in some places but I have to admit that running Physx on low gives me 60 FPS steady everywhere and it feels good!
I just wish they wouldn't have used Physx on some really basic stuff that adds so much to the game.
Vampire On Titus
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Rez said:
It isn't Bayonetta, but It also isn't a combo-based action game. It's less about knowing which combo to use and when, and more so about knowing which item to use on which enemy, the deliberate sequence of events needed to make that enemy vulnerable, processing audio and visual cues to know when to dodge or break focus from one enemy to the next, and reforming your tactical approach to adhere to the different enemy groupings the game throws at you.
When It all comes together, I'd say it's rather amazing.
Wow, cheap price for all those dresses and weapons. Neat how they also each have different traits. Kinda laughable considering how much Dead Space charged.
Some of those outfits change the way Alice looks too (hair, eyes). Good stuff.
Question: Does new game+ keep all of your collectibles?
Some of those outfits change the way Alice looks too (hair, eyes). Good stuff.
Question: Does new game+ keep all of your collectibles?
Bjoern the Smexy
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Just got to the start of Chapter 5 and...holy crap (Spoilers for Chapters 3, 4 and 5 incoming)
As I said, I'm at the start of chapter 5 now. This game is so good. Haven't had a game like this in a VERY long time.
My current playtime is something like 10 to 12 hours and I'm far from finished. And already I hope that there will be another sequel coming out in a few years. I really hope this game sells like hotcakes, because it deserves to sell like hotcakes.
Everyone, BUY THIS GAME!!! There is no reason at all not to buy it. So buy it. Seriously.
Chapter 3 was awesome. The Japanese touch seems kind of unfitting given the Alice in Wonderland setting, but still it kinda makes sense. Also it looks awesome. Porcelain stuff everywhere, half naked statues everywhere, japanese stuff everywhere. My background highlight were the trees made of porcelain. They looked so beautiful. Creepy stuff were the statues with insect heads. Yeah well, whatever turns Alice on, I guess.
The real world intermission between chapters 3 and 4 was waaaaay too short. Get out of your jail cell, get outside, KABOOM chapter 4...what? Did they run out of ideas or what?
Andway, chapter 4 was awesome as hell. Getting back to meet the Queen of Hearts again (which was the last boss of Alice 1, if I remember correctly?) was pretty cool and the whole castle looked sooooo good. Especially the introduction where everything is made of cards and the last part "inside" of the Queen were really cool.
The intermission between chapters 4 and 5 was pretty out there, holy shit. Waking up in an asylum with a straight jacket on? Why? Did I miss something? Then the wardens which turn out to be Tweedledee and Tweedledum, the "doctoring" done to Alice (drilling a hole in her head and the following result, well holy crap). The complete sequence kinda reminded me of the Scarecrow parts in Batman AA. Really creative in both narrative and gameplay (although Alice misses the gameplay part of that, the narrative still was pretty strong).
The real world intermission between chapters 3 and 4 was waaaaay too short. Get out of your jail cell, get outside, KABOOM chapter 4...what? Did they run out of ideas or what?
Andway, chapter 4 was awesome as hell. Getting back to meet the Queen of Hearts again (which was the last boss of Alice 1, if I remember correctly?) was pretty cool and the whole castle looked sooooo good. Especially the introduction where everything is made of cards and the last part "inside" of the Queen were really cool.
The intermission between chapters 4 and 5 was pretty out there, holy shit. Waking up in an asylum with a straight jacket on? Why? Did I miss something? Then the wardens which turn out to be Tweedledee and Tweedledum, the "doctoring" done to Alice (drilling a hole in her head and the following result, well holy crap). The complete sequence kinda reminded me of the Scarecrow parts in Batman AA. Really creative in both narrative and gameplay (although Alice misses the gameplay part of that, the narrative still was pretty strong).
As I said, I'm at the start of chapter 5 now. This game is so good. Haven't had a game like this in a VERY long time.
My current playtime is something like 10 to 12 hours and I'm far from finished. And already I hope that there will be another sequel coming out in a few years. I really hope this game sells like hotcakes, because it deserves to sell like hotcakes.
Everyone, BUY THIS GAME!!! There is no reason at all not to buy it. So buy it. Seriously.
Anerythristic
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WOW at the start of Chapter 4. Just beautiful.
A Huge Battleship
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Possibly the least original thought to be expressed in this topic so far, but holy hell Chapter 4 is awesome.
I just got this game... and its BEAUTIFUL!
Playing on my PC with Physx turned on to high and i am seriously blown away by both the physic and the art style, so much character in the world. After playing with both the k+m and the xbox controller, i think i prefer the controller more, it just seems to flow better. And the graphics man, sogood.gif
Even though i am only about 1 hour in, i am really surprised at how well the developers were able to mix the figthing, platforming and exploration. They all blend so well. And it controls very nicely too.
The only con i have is that even with what i consider to be a beefy rig (4.5 ghz + gtx 570) with physx turn to high the fps can dip down to 20, which really slows things down. Is there a tweak around this? The frame drops occur when i fight the liquid enemies.
Playing on my PC with Physx turned on to high and i am seriously blown away by both the physic and the art style, so much character in the world. After playing with both the k+m and the xbox controller, i think i prefer the controller more, it just seems to flow better. And the graphics man, sogood.gif
Even though i am only about 1 hour in, i am really surprised at how well the developers were able to mix the figthing, platforming and exploration. They all blend so well. And it controls very nicely too.
The only con i have is that even with what i consider to be a beefy rig (4.5 ghz + gtx 570) with physx turn to high the fps can dip down to 20, which really slows things down. Is there a tweak around this? The frame drops occur when i fight the liquid enemies.
jim-jam bongs
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I decided to take the plunge based on the impressions in this thread and I'm enjoying it a lot so far. The writing captures the spirit of Lewis Carroll far more effectively than the first game, I actually laughed out loud at "following furry animals down dark holes is quickly becoming a habit. I do hope it's not a vice." The first part isn't very Alice, but the second part is perfect so it really does capture the "Alice but grown-up" vibe.
My only complaint is the visuals but I was expecting that based off the preview media. It does look a lot better in motion because of all the PhysX and particle effects, it's just jarringly inconsistent at times. Also, I can count on one hand the number of texture seams I've seen in recent games but Alice totally breaks the curve if you catch my drift. It would definitely be substantially improved by higher resolution textures though, the major immersion killing visual issue is jumping from a platform with a really sharp texture and landing on one that looks like a puddle of vaseline.
Still, it's really fun so far and I think it would be a shame if people let the visual deficiencies turn them off the game, especially as the art is really gorgeous when it's given the chance to shine through.
My only complaint is the visuals but I was expecting that based off the preview media. It does look a lot better in motion because of all the PhysX and particle effects, it's just jarringly inconsistent at times. Also, I can count on one hand the number of texture seams I've seen in recent games but Alice totally breaks the curve if you catch my drift. It would definitely be substantially improved by higher resolution textures though, the major immersion killing visual issue is jumping from a platform with a really sharp texture and landing on one that looks like a puddle of vaseline.
Still, it's really fun so far and I think it would be a shame if people let the visual deficiencies turn them off the game, especially as the art is really gorgeous when it's given the chance to shine through.
I absolutely love how much story is being told without the game really saying much at all. Up to chapter 2 spoilers:
Great, great stuff.
Seeing everyone belligerent, trying to drink their cares away and seeing how depressed everyone looks in real world London...it's a rich contrast to Alice's Wonderland. I almost can't blame her for creating this place that's way more exciting and way more interesting to live in compared to the stark reality of where she actually is.
Great, great stuff.
Vampire On Titus
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Kambing said:
There's a "maxsmoothedframerate" setting you can tweak in AliceEngine.ini in "\Documents\My Games\Alice Madness Returns\AliceGame\Config" change the value from 30 to 60. You can also turn off Vysnc in that file. It's probably defaulted to on, since it did for me as well, and I also have a 570.
DimmuBurgerKing
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I've only had time to play part of Chapter 1 so far
but I'm extremely pleased with what I'm seeing so far. It's almost criminal that platformers like this are so few and far between this gen.
just reached the area with the old Mock Turtle train
Maffis said:
Yup. Silky smooth. I think there may have been a one or two times i got some dips in fps but it was random, like when smashing open containers, and not actually during any fighting/platforming.
And yes I have PC and PS3 versions...wat? (Waiting on new rig for master race playthrough)
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Maffis said:
PS3 version is beautiful. Runs smooth and has AA to boot.
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MoogPaul said:
No. Both console versions are fine, really. Best version is obviously PC version + gamepad.
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Totobeni said:
That's the sad truth. I'm sure the storyline is a bit too mature for the average reviewer too too. This is like the equivalent of Alan Moore comics in the 80s. It's on a whole 'nother level.
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Ceebs said:
Ch. 6 is really short but there is a lot of cutscenes
I'm in the middle of Chapter 3 and my god, the art in this game is fucking insane. I even see a lot of the messy textures, but it doesn't stop this from being one of the most eye appealing games I've ever seen. I really like Alice's model and the different dresses she gets as well.
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Papercuts said:
You haven't even gotten to the good stuff yet
Started a Nightmare playthrough (DLC dresses/weapons+ New Game Plus meaning I start with the full arsenal should make this manageable for me), and I have to give them some major credit for a fairly minor detail in the beginning that becomes ninety times creepier after you complete the game.
After Alice's first therapy session, as you're leaving the orphanage, there are needlepoints on the wall. I think I initially assumed they said "Home Sweet Home" on them. On replaying, I realized they said "Home Safe Home" which is unbelievably disturbing given what is being done to the children living there.
And done...Chapter 3 is for sure the low point of the game as once you hit chapter 4 it picks right back up and that last 1/3 has some of the best stuff in the entire game. Total playtime of 11:23 and 84% completion.
I may go back and try another difficulty once someone figures out how to edit the bonuses to the dresses (I want to play with the chapter 5 dress and the rabbit dress full time without the extras)
I may go back and try another difficulty once someone figures out how to edit the bonuses to the dresses (I want to play with the chapter 5 dress and the rabbit dress full time without the extras)
Chapter 3 was probably the weakest for me too.
But I didn't really feel like anything dragged on too long. I suppose you would if you sat through entire chapters at a time. It took me at least 2 sessions to complete a chapter, except for 1 and 6. I guess I'm also way more tolerant of "repetition", growing up with RPGs and all.
But I didn't really feel like anything dragged on too long. I suppose you would if you sat through entire chapters at a time. It took me at least 2 sessions to complete a chapter, except for 1 and 6. I guess I'm also way more tolerant of "repetition", growing up with RPGs and all.
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I Iiked the idea of the Chapter 5 minigames, it's just they were a little long.
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So far chapter 2 is the weakest for me, IMO.
ToyBroker said:
It's hanging around Assassins Creed Brotherhood on my list so far, so about #4-5 on my top 10.
It's a very good game if you have the patience for it.
Did anyone else find the fact that there seemed to be more EA marketing people in the credits than Spicy Horse staff amusing/sad.