canadian crowe
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My God, playing through the first game is torture. It really hasn't aged well at all.
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Alice: Madness Returns |OT|
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Yurt said:
I feel bad for anyone who is missing out this game( because of bad reviews scores or anything), Alice 2 is not only a good old school 3d Platformers in the age of modern military shooters and same old same Japanese games, but game with one of the best story and storytelling in this generation, combined amazing art style and satisfying combat system and it's a unique and refreshing experiences journey ,It's imho the surprise of the year, shame that reviews put people off.
Via Purifico
Banned
I am playing this on 360 right now and while the graphics are at times ugly, the character models and art are beautiful. The game is also a lot of fun even though at times it can get a bit repetitive, solid sequel though so far.
Metroidvania
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XeroSauce said:
I felt that 2 and 3 dragged the most out of the chapters thus far (Pretty far into chapter 5)
Chapter 4 picks up the awesome again tho, so soldier on.
Spoilers, I guess? In the most generic sense.
I did feel it was odd on how much....filler, for lack of a better word, some of the sections in chapters 2 and 3 felt like. Yeah, there was the re-introduction of characters, but it felt to me like Alice isn't really given a chance to shine in either chapter, instead, it's focusing on the uniqueness of the environments, which will eventually lose its luster.
I agree with an earlier post in the thread that if the chapters were split in two and made into different areas, many aspects of the dragging problem would disappear. Otherwise, platforming is tight, combat is fine, can't see how this is getting 5s and 6s.
jim-jam bongs
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canadian crowe said:
It was always torture. Always. Alice was about 15% amazing, inspired gaming and 85% padding. That and Scrapland really made it hard for me to take American McGee seriously for a really long time. Actually, I'm not even sure I take him seriously now.
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luka said:I enjoyed it
It's a good game, but the combat and platforming was kinda clunky even back then. Even moreso when playing it with a controller nowadays, considering the game was designed to be played with mouse and keyboard.
jim-jam bongs
Member
luka said:I enjoyed it
Hey I did too in parts. Same goes for Scrapland, but let's keep that between the two of us. The art was consistently great all the way through for one thing, the scene with the stacks of books teetering in the abyss still stands out. There was just too much damned filler. It says a lot when you played a game for the better part of 15 hours and can only remember a handful of levels.
Finally started the game (PS3 version) and I must I'm pleasantly surprised. It is just as good as I hoped it would be. Artistically, it's a tour de force. It definitely suffers from the Unreal Engine syndromes and feels a bit clunky sometimes but if you're into great old school platforming with amazing art, well, buy it.
Also, I'm near the end of chapter 1 and didn't encounter "loading at strange places". Only some "chugging" as the system streams the next part... and I guess we're used to that.
Also, I'm near the end of chapter 1 and didn't encounter "loading at strange places". Only some "chugging" as the system streams the next part... and I guess we're used to that.
OK you guys hyped me up so I ended up buying the PC version of it. WOW the art design of this game really shocked me. I finished Chapter 1 in one go and almost forgot it was already 4am. However, some technical issues really started to bother me:
1. I have some wired ass game freeze issues (I suppose it was loading?) and one time it just froze when Alice was in the mid air jumping from one platform to the other.
2. All the control related in-game tips use keyboard mappings by default even though I actually use a 360 pad. And the controller screen in the config menu didn't help all: I couldn't find which button was for the umbrella block until I found it online.
3. I really like the physX environment particles such as the flowers in the valley and the leafs around Alice when you jump but since I'm running on an ATI card, setting physX to medium just made the combat unplayable for me (mostly the pepper grinder particles and the enemy shattering effects). Is there anyway to turn off those enemy shattering effects but still keep all those cool environmental particles?
EDIT: any idea what is "EA Origin" supposed to be? I assume it's some kind of EA download manager but it didn't show anything (not even menu) when I launched it.
1. I have some wired ass game freeze issues (I suppose it was loading?) and one time it just froze when Alice was in the mid air jumping from one platform to the other.
2. All the control related in-game tips use keyboard mappings by default even though I actually use a 360 pad. And the controller screen in the config menu didn't help all: I couldn't find which button was for the umbrella block until I found it online.
3. I really like the physX environment particles such as the flowers in the valley and the leafs around Alice when you jump but since I'm running on an ATI card, setting physX to medium just made the combat unplayable for me (mostly the pepper grinder particles and the enemy shattering effects). Is there anyway to turn off those enemy shattering effects but still keep all those cool environmental particles?
EDIT: any idea what is "EA Origin" supposed to be? I assume it's some kind of EA download manager but it didn't show anything (not even menu) when I launched it.
Pocketsfriend
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God damn am I glad I impulse bought this the other day. Only problem is that I found out about the Alice2 store too late and a few of amazing posters are sold out. I did end up buying the artbook, vale of tears and wake up alice lithographs so I'm happy. I'm hoping that they ship the lithographs to the same standard that they use with the Mass Effect lithographs since it seems EA is using treehouse with their online merchandise stores.
Definitely in the top few visual and story experiences I've had this gen. Looking forward to playing the first one as well but I think I'll look around to get it on PC as the ps3 versions controls are pretty awkward at best.
Definitely in the top few visual and story experiences I've had this gen. Looking forward to playing the first one as well but I think I'll look around to get it on PC as the ps3 versions controls are pretty awkward at best.
Totobeni said:
Mate i could not agree with you more. Alice really feels like a breath of fresh air this late (or midway for some) in the generation where many of the released games are very much samey. And the art style, man the art style. I hope enough people buy the game, i would hate to see a good game like this not sell well. This game deserves to be successful.
Vampire On Titus
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leng jai said:
I'm using a 570 and it stays constant, it is a EVGA superclocked version or whatever they called it, though. Did you tweak those .ini settings posted a few pages back? The maxsmoothed framerate one helps keeps things snappy throughout.
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Papercuts said:
Chapter 4 made me feel like Nintendo should hire McGee to train them on how to design HD games
Vampire On Titus
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Not sure how everyone else feels about it, but I loved those
chess puzzles.
Anyone know how to keep the jumping effects (petals and butterflies) while disabling the rest? Can max out the game fine but the volumetric smoke is killing me.
I remember someone mentioning which values I should change in the .ini to get that effect but I've searched through the thread a couple of times and can't seem to find that post.
I remember someone mentioning which values I should change in the .ini to get that effect but I've searched through the thread a couple of times and can't seem to find that post.
Vampire On Titus
Member
Just finished the game (12hr 37min 85% completion), shit's fucking awesome, buy it. I've already talked about a great many thing I think make this game great. So I'm gonna keep it fairly brief (also tired as all hell)
Chapter 4 is getting very just praise, but my personal favorite has to be Chapter 5. This is end game platforming done staggeringly well. Chapter 5 gets appropriately hardcore and I loved every minute of it.
The
are awesome and funny, best of the main gameplay diversions for me, second place going to
. (also it the
kind of remind me of Igneous despite being a lot slower)
To anyone feeling hesitant about buying this game, because of reviews or any other reason, let it be known: The art design is astounding, jumping controls are some of the best around, the combat is visceral is deep and demands a tactical approach. If you are a fan of games and/or having fun in general, I recommend it.
Love this game, surprise hit of the year for sure!
Chapter 4 is getting very just praise, but my personal favorite has to be Chapter 5. This is end game platforming done staggeringly well. Chapter 5 gets appropriately hardcore and I loved every minute of it.
The
rolling baby head sections
Chapter 3's 2D sections
baby head levels
To anyone feeling hesitant about buying this game, because of reviews or any other reason, let it be known: The art design is astounding, jumping controls are some of the best around, the combat is visceral is deep and demands a tactical approach. If you are a fan of games and/or having fun in general, I recommend it.
Love this game, surprise hit of the year for sure!
A Huge Battleship
Member
Also just finished the game. Chapter 4 is a strong contender for my favourite level in the history of everything. If all the other chapters were as brilliant this would be my game of the forever, but as it stands it's just excellent.
Despite playing on Nightmare, the Teapot Cannon still broke the combat a bit. I'm glad the Royal Suit (aka the best of the story mode outfits) is a handicap outfit, since I'll likely use it on my next playthrough when I track down the things I missed.
Despite playing on Nightmare, the Teapot Cannon still broke the combat a bit. I'm glad the Royal Suit (aka the best of the story mode outfits) is a handicap outfit, since I'll likely use it on my next playthrough when I track down the things I missed.
Acquiescence
Member
I don't really understand why everyone is praising Chapter 4. I just finished it and nothing about it really stood out to me. The beginning portion with the
was admittedly gorgeous, but apart from the
nothing else really seemed to stand out afterwards. Being
was a bit of a chore and became boring very quickly.
My favourite Chapter thus far is 2. Granted, it overstayed its welcome but the whole
was incredibly atmospheric and bolstered by some serene ambient music. The main bulk of the chapter too,
: it was the most immersed I've been in the game yet.
floating houses of cards
awesome chess puzzles
Giant Alice
My favourite Chapter thus far is 2. Granted, it overstayed its welcome but the whole
Tundra portion
the underwater locales
Vampire On Titus
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A Huge Battleship said:
Maybe it's because it was the last thing I leveled fully, but I didn't find the Teapot Cannon all that useful past Chapter 3. In Chapter 5 especially, when
it introduces the new flying enemy flying doll-head thing. They move so quick I found myself always switching to the Pepper Grinder.
those giant doll girls that you needed to target specific spots on then cut out the hears off
On another note, people who have finished the game. What did you guys think of the ending?
Combichristoffersen
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Otacon said:
Both are fine
Combichristoffersen
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Otacon said:
The 360 version has some ground layer texture in the first level that the PS3 lacks, and I think the PS3 version has some sort of AA that the 360 doesn't have (but don't quote me on the last one). But these differences are so small and negligible it really doesn't matter which version you buy, the game is amazing on both consoles.
Otacon said:
I dont think we will know until there is a DF or LoT comparison. I just know that the the PS3 version has some framerate dips that are a bit annoying, they are mostly in combat and did not really appear until chapter 3 for me.
None of the technical issues have affected the platforming part of the game so far (Im towards the end of chapter 3).
The PS3 version also pauses to load/save occasionally. When I collect a memory, it pauses for a second to load the sound clip or something. I don't know if the 360 version has this, but it's a pretty minor thing. From what I can tell, it's the usual case where you should decide based on controller preference, trophies/achievements, etc, etc.
Ch. 5 enemy spoilersEchosMyron1 said:
Against the big dolls I used the teapot exclusively. Wait until they dashed at you then get behind, 2 shots to take out the screws then strafe around and fire like another 4 shots to kill it.
I had what is probably the same stuttering issue as others. It happened maybe once an hour or so and felt like it was a streaming issue. I have had a similar issue with other UE3 games as well. Not a huge deal as the game ran at a smooth 60 fps for like 99% of the game.
A Huge Battleship
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Judge for yourself (click). You can see the effects of the additional costumes / weapon skins in the video.Tizoc said:
On a related note, anyone know what the Late but Lucky outfit actually does?
Vampire On Titus
Member
Ceebs said:
It may have something to do with my approach but
I found those giant dolls would turn around so frequently when up close that I couldn't ever get a shot in with the Teapot because of it's arch. They also did that fire knife lunge with the vulnerability period fairly infrequently. So I almost never waited for it, only took advantage when it would happen to occur. Or if only they were left in a fight.
Still though if we're talking about the Teapot being a bit overpowered, which to be fair, I'm not sure is your point or not.
2 shots to take out the screws and 4 shots to kill
Or at least, using it when I did,
Chapter 4, fucking up those brutish card guards' shit
JRW
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Man this game just keeps getting better and I'm only just starting Chapter 3, They actually did a pretty good job with the PhysX effects as well (running it on High w/ GTX 480).
I hate to say this because I normally always go for mouse+key controls but this game just feels right with a gamepad (using a PS3 controller plugged in via USB & set to 360 emulation mode in Motionjoy version 0.6.0003)
I hate to say this because I normally always go for mouse+key controls but this game just feels right with a gamepad (using a PS3 controller plugged in via USB & set to 360 emulation mode in Motionjoy version 0.6.0003)
plagiarize
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don't hate. lots of multiplatform games play better on PC with a pad. you aren't turning your back on the PC brotherhood to use a padJRW said:
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
rented this from gamefly because of this thread and so far its pretty awesome (maybe about an hour or so in).
the only review i saw on this game before reading this thread was the OPM review which gave it 5/10. i don't understand that at all. i guess everyone has their own opinion but just based on the controls, art, graphics and voice acting i can't see how they give it that rating.
hopefully the momentum keeps up in the game. really surprised by it so far
the only review i saw on this game before reading this thread was the OPM review which gave it 5/10. i don't understand that at all. i guess everyone has their own opinion but just based on the controls, art, graphics and voice acting i can't see how they give it that rating.
hopefully the momentum keeps up in the game. really surprised by it so far
Combichristoffersen
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Goddamn Colossal Ruins take foreverrrrrr to kill -_-
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Ken said:
I use the
teapot cannon