Alien-Looking Skeleton Poses Medical Mystery

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Anyone remember that late 1980s cult classic, The Gate?

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Scared THE SHIT out of me as a kid. My older cousin told me it was "just like The Goonies" so I was like oh cool. It isn't like The Goonies at all, bros
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I think this is the most likely explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus_in_fetu
Alamjan Nematilaev was the surviving host of a fetus in fetu. In 2003, aged 7, his school physician in Kazakhstan referred him to a hospital after movements were detected in the boy's enlarged abdomen. An operation intended to remove a cyst uncovered the fetus of Alamjan's identical twin brother, which had lived as parasitic growth inside the boy throughout his entire life. The fetus was comparatively highly developed, with hair, arms, fingers, nails, legs, toes, genitals, a head, and a vague approximation of a face.
 
Torhthelm Tídwald;56561292 said:
Alamjan Nematilaev was the surviving host of a fetus in fetu. In 2003, aged 7, his school physician in Kazakhstan referred him to a hospital after movements were detected in the boy's enlarged abdomen. An operation intended to remove a cyst uncovered the fetus of Alamjan's identical twin brother, which had lived as parasitic growth inside the boy throughout his entire life. The fetus was comparatively highly developed, with hair, arms, fingers, nails, legs, toes, genitals, a head, and a vague approximation of a face.
I need to go fucking lie down now.
 
On June 30, 2008, in China, a newborn baby with this condition had an extra penis growing out of its back. Doctors spent three hours removing it, and the child was fine afterward.[13]

He could have had a lucrative porno career.
 
I first saw this on Pharyngula; he said it appeared to be a mummified fetus, where the plates of the skull collapsed on themselves as the body dried out. Sounded reasonable to me. *shrugs*
 
The only speculation that makes any sense to me is that this was one of those parasite deals where they somehow found it inside a normal sized human, so they freaked the fuck out and mummified it.

Either that or these scientists have been fooled by an impressive fake made of real human remains.
 
I first saw this on Pharyngula; he said it appeared to be a mummified fetus, where the plates of the skull collapsed on themselves as the body dried out. Sounded reasonable to me. *shrugs*

Supposedly they did tests that put it at 6-8 years. Discovery isn't the most reliable source, though.
 
I guess I am redeemed for my earlier fallacies that I have made in my youth here...

Regardless, on a serious note. Its a very interesting find. :)
 
Torhthelm Tídwald;56566556 said:
Supposedly they did tests that put it at 6-8 years. Discovery isn't the most reliable source, though.

Here is the actual source: http://siriusdisclosure.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Chile-Specimen_GPN-Summary.pdf

Tests carried out by this guy: http://med.stanford.edu/profiles/Garry_Nolan/

This is how his analysis ends, and this is what we should all be waiting for before getting too carried away with this case: "Full analysis of the DNA,
and attempts to link genetics to morphology, will eventually follow in an appropriately
peer-reviewed article in an accredited scientific journal. The results will be
independently verified before publication."
 
you know what

no matter how long the study for this go on, there won't be a single goddamn proof that this thing came from outer space

this will never officially be called a space alien unless more of them come down here in space ships and look just like it

it may just be the biggest coincidence that it's skull just happened to resemble the classic hollywood space alien

maybe this thing really did have a disease of some sort that was never classified ever

these guys here aren't 6 inches tall but they're also quite small as well, maybe our alien is a much extremer case?
 

The observed abnormalities do not
fall into any standard or rare classification of known human pediatric disorders. As
represented by a specialist in pediatric human bone and growth disorders (see attached
report), the 6 inch specimen is a human that was likely 6-8 years of age at the time of
death (age based on epiphyseal plate X-Ray density standards).

That makes a lot more sense. The original article implied that it was a DNA test that showed its age.

Also, LOL at "Dr. Greer" at the beginning trying to play up the alien angle. Basically: "So you're telling me there's a chance?"
 
Torhthelm Tídwald;56570412 said:
That makes a lot more sense. The original article implied that it was a DNA test that showed its age.

Also, LOL at "Dr. Greer" at the beginning trying to play up the alien angle. Basically: "So you're telling me there's a chance?"

fucking bullseye i knew it!!!!!
 
for the folks here who are wondering how they do Next Generation Sequence analysis: They use these type of tools: http://www.nature.com/nprot/journal/v7/n3/full/nprot.2012.016.html

Overall its very time consuming as they will have to annotate the sequence if they find novel genes. I won't expect any true results for a few months.. Also if they hoping to publish this, lets just say it'll take at least 6 months to year for the final version to be public.
 
these guys here aren't 6 inches tall but they're also quite small as well, maybe our alien is a much extremer case?
We should take into account that people were generally smaller in the past. And this child might have looked more normal and slightly bigger before its corpse dried out.
 
you know what

no matter how long the study for this go on, there won't be a single goddamn proof that this thing came from outer space

this will never officially be called a space alien unless more of them come down here in space ships and look just like it

it may just be the biggest coincidence that it's skull just happened to resemble the classic hollywood space alien

maybe this thing really did have a disease of some sort that was never classified ever

these guys here aren't 6 inches tall but they're also quite small as well, maybe our alien is a much extremer case?


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Where in the article or OP is anyone talking about it being an alien besides the inflammatory title that says it looks like an alien?

It's a human. They have tested it. DNA says human. They are currently figuring out WHY it is so small, and deformed. Yes, the guy that made a stupid documentary about it claimed it could be an alien. But then he turned it over to Stanford scientists.

If this is a skeleton what is holding all the bones together in one piece?

Mummification. Happens all the time.
 
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Where in the article or OP is anyone talking about it being an alien besides the inflammatory title that says it looks like an alien?

It's a human. They have tested it. DNA says human. They are currently figuring out WHY it is so small, and deformed. Yes, the guy that made a stupid documentary about it claimed it could be an alien. But then he turned it over to Stanford scientists.



Mummification. Happens all the time.
Uhhh I do no about you but I get real excited about aliens
 
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Where in the article or OP is anyone talking about it being an alien besides the inflammatory title that says it looks like an alien?

It's a human. They have tested it. DNA says human. They are currently figuring out WHY it is so small, and deformed. Yes, the guy that made a stupid documentary about it claimed it could be an alien. But then he turned it over to Stanford scientists.



Mummification. Happens all the time.
anyone unaware of mummification? gaf?
anyone unaware that scientists are studying this? gaf?
 
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