haxan7
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I actually just wanted you to express your opinion better, which you did here. You didn't previously.
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Aliens and UFOs
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Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
I think Ross helped break the story of his career with Grusch, and wants the momentum to keep going. Problem is, government ANYTHING takes a very long time. Long time to organize the hearings, the hearings get delayed until after summer, etc etc etc. Now he’s just going on Podcasts bitching about how dumb mainstream media is for not covering this, and in the process letting some extraordinary claims “slip out”, which I don’t think he would’ve done before if this hadn’t cooled off a bit. Lol. But we are in some ways at a standstill with Grusch - until the hearings actually start, if those hearings are public, and we get to see what action (if any) congress takes as result of those hearings. Those are all big “ifs”. This could get swept under the rug and forgotten about just as easily (which I’m sure would make those involved very very happy).
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IlGialloMondadori
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I just don’t get his ranting at the mainstream media. He knows what’s going on. It’s all classified. What are they going to report on? He’s not saying or leaking anything that he knows, the media has already talked about the upcoming hearings, so what is there to talk about until then?
I get being worried about this being a big nothing though.
Draugoth
Gold Member
So assuming Aliens are real, here's my view on it:
When you have a science team interested in going to Africa to study some animals what you are going to do?
What does abductees claim to happen?
So this awnsers the question of why we can't find aliens or why they dont want to contact us is: Because to most of aliens outside of some interested individuals that are interested in studying us we are just some sophisticated animals trapped in their own version of a stone age that they have a really hard time communicating with.
When you have a science team interested in going to Africa to study some animals what you are going to do?
- You find an animal in the middle of nowhere
- You shoot the with a dart gun
- The animal freaks out because something hit him and he doesnt know what it is.
- The animal blacks out
- The scientists take some exams out of the animal, some blood samples and tag him for further research
- The scientists leave the animal some distance away of where he was caught (sometimes in the same place)
- The animal wakes up having no idea of wtf just happend and goes back to it's original course.
- The animal might lick some new strange scars bothering him but he doesnt think much of it.
What does abductees claim to happen?
- You are driving in the middle of nowhere
- A Bright light hits you
- The person freaks out because some weird light hit him he doesnt know what it is
- You are taken aboard a ship paralized/sleeping
- They take some exams out of you, blood and tag you
- They leave the person a distance away of where he was taken (sometimes in the same place)
- The person wakes up having no idea of wtf just happend and goes back to it's original route.
- The person might realize he got some new strange scars but he doesnt think much of it.
So this awnsers the question of why we can't find aliens or why they dont want to contact us is: Because to most of aliens outside of some interested individuals that are interested in studying us we are just some sophisticated animals trapped in their own version of a stone age that they have a really hard time communicating with.
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Wheeljack539
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Some things for people new to UFO lore or have not heard of it:
Solar Warden:
I remember hearing about this in the mid 2000s and it's one of those things you have to note that the US backed down from testifying under oath against Gary McKinnon.
The video did not mention though that he was also combing NASA servers for photos and that a number of them had been altered after they realized someone had unauthorized access.
Solar Warden:
I remember hearing about this in the mid 2000s and it's one of those things you have to note that the US backed down from testifying under oath against Gary McKinnon.
The video did not mention though that he was also combing NASA servers for photos and that a number of them had been altered after they realized someone had unauthorized access.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
I've seen many videos of floating orbs all over the world why idea what those are?
noonjam
Member
Schumer, Rounds Introduce New Legislation To Declassify Government Records Related To Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena & UFOs – Modeled After JFK Assassination Records Collection Act – As An Amendment To NDAA | Senate Democratic Leadership
Washington, D.C. – Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) are leading...
www.democrats.senate.gov
Senators to offer amendment to require government to make UFO records public
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) is part of a bipartisan group of senators who have offered an amendment to the annual Defense authorization bill requiring the federal government to co…
thehill.com
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sono
Gold Member
Yes they are
GeorgioCostanzaX
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Surprised this is happening but like others have said on social media it sounds an awful lot like the JFK disclosure act where anything truly sensitive can and still is being withheld at the discretion of POTUS and past POTUSes.Schumer, Rounds Introduce New Legislation To Declassify Government Records Related To Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena & UFOs – Modeled After JFK Assassination Records Collection Act – As An Amendment To NDAA | Senate Democratic Leadership
Washington, D.C. – Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) are leading...
Senators to offer amendment to require government to make UFO records public
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) is part of a bipartisan group of senators who have offered an amendment to the annual Defense authorization bill requiring the federal government to co…
Chiggs
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It apparently wrecked his life, helped end his career & marriage, and shattered whatever illusion of air and sea supremacy he had.
Bartski
Gold Member
July 26th
Reps. Burchett and Luna confirm House UFO hearing date is July 26th
In the face of “pressure” from Pentagon brass, NASA officials and other lawmakers, the co-chairs of the House UAP investigation are undeterred.
www.askapol.com
Wheeljack539
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July 26th
Reps. Burchett and Luna confirm House UFO hearing date is July 26th
In the face of “pressure” from Pentagon brass, NASA officials and other lawmakers, the co-chairs of the House UAP investigation are undeterred.
Pentagon and NASA not wanting to play should tell us all how this is going.
It's going to fizzle out but strengthen the idea that they've got something to hide.
Romulus
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Thats a good one.
There's also events that occurred in Iran, Belguim, Brazil, Italy, and Peru that are very similar to this. Not to mention the Foo Fighters of ww2, which various countries reported similar sighting that pilots and bomber crews see today.
But somehow everyone is lying/mistaken. Lol
AcrosstheSea
Banned
Yeah there's rumors about them. Red orbs a sign of hostility and orange orbs when surveying life/animals...etc.
The rumor essentially is they are to gather information.
This stuff is about to get crazy. If this is proven true it's the biggest cover up in human history and David Grusch claimed people were killed to keep this stuff secret. Insanity.
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haxan7
Banned
I'm betting on the fact that most people won't even really care when full disclosure happens.
Romulus
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I'd say we have more than rumors at this point. DOD released videos this year and last in which they admitted they had no idea what they were.
AcrosstheSea
Banned
This is interesting:
Also to those who think it will fizzle out
I really don't think this is something that's gonna fizzle out. This is the biggest story of all time if even remotely true.
We are talking about a massive cover up that has lasted decades. We are talking potential murders to keep the secret alive. We are talking about technology that is likely hundreds of years beyond what we have being reverse engineered and kept secret from the science community and the public. We are talking about top secret black projects that presidents/Congress and people of high authority weren't briefed on. Absolutely no oversight on it.
This is a big deal, whether people that are oblivious to everything about it.
More than anything if this is all true there's a species on this planet that is now top dog and is so far advanced that they basically can dictate what happens to us. We became the cattle. We keep hearing that they can drop in an out of our dimensional space ( rumors ) but if that's true....
it's like Luis Elizondo said:
Are they a threat?
" Well, people typically lock the doors to their home before they go to bed. Just to be safe. Let's say you wake up and theres muddy footprints in your house. Nothing has happened but you know someone was in your house. It's a threat but is it a hostile threat?" Paraphrasing..
That's what's going on.
Also to those who think it will fizzle out
I really don't think this is something that's gonna fizzle out. This is the biggest story of all time if even remotely true.
We are talking about a massive cover up that has lasted decades. We are talking potential murders to keep the secret alive. We are talking about technology that is likely hundreds of years beyond what we have being reverse engineered and kept secret from the science community and the public. We are talking about top secret black projects that presidents/Congress and people of high authority weren't briefed on. Absolutely no oversight on it.
This is a big deal, whether people that are oblivious to everything about it.
More than anything if this is all true there's a species on this planet that is now top dog and is so far advanced that they basically can dictate what happens to us. We became the cattle. We keep hearing that they can drop in an out of our dimensional space ( rumors ) but if that's true....
it's like Luis Elizondo said:
Are they a threat?
" Well, people typically lock the doors to their home before they go to bed. Just to be safe. Let's say you wake up and theres muddy footprints in your house. Nothing has happened but you know someone was in your house. It's a threat but is it a hostile threat?" Paraphrasing..
That's what's going on.
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Grildon Tundy
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The Tic Tac video was reported on in the The New York Times, which is typically considered in the top tier of reputable sources. And yet people (my friends and family) had, in my mind, basically disinterested reactions. Maybe they just didn't want me to go on a rant, but I thought it was weird.
Reminds me of 2013 when it was proven that, yes, the government is spying on us; I thought the world had irrevocably changed and yet the mainstream reaction was a shrug. I don't get it.
noonjam
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I wonder what do green/yellow mean then
AcrosstheSea
Banned
I'd argue most people aren't aware of what's going on till maybe just now.
Honestly it was a grainy ass video and saying it's unidentified doesn't mean aliens. David Grusch saying we have non human intelligent craft and maybe bodies and now the Senate taking that seriously changes things. Even still some mainstream media stations aren't covering it in a big way because of the stigma still.
Eventually they will have to eat crow and people will become aware. My sister in law didn't even know about this till I talked about it the other day. I expect that is the norm right now.
Grildon Tundy
Member
I agree--it was the collective shrug that surprised me whereas I wanted to know more about it.
And it was that shrugging that's led me not to share some of this newer stuff.
Anyway, really hoping hearings are held and more people learn about this stuff from "trusted" sources
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AcrosstheSea
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I think everything since has been pretty glaring though. They've seen things and that's why these bills are reflecting that.
This shows what kind of potential threat we are dealing with.
Advanced Aerospace Threat and Identification Program (AATIP)
Written by Jay09784691 On the 6th of August 2018 I was researching into Christopher Mellon, one of the newly appointed advisory staff ...
mindsublime.blogspot.com
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MilkyJoe
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That Ross reporter fella said that the strike force leak is absolutely untrue
AcrosstheSea
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Entirely possible but also probably wouldnt want that info out there either. Imagine trying to take technology and weapons far beyond what we have from people who have too much power already with them knowing it's gonna happen.
MMaRsu
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Source?
AcrosstheSea
Banned
This is what we constantly see in this stuff. Luis Elizondo was basically saying the reason they don't believe it's a foreign adversary is because the tech was seen decades ago.
Raonak
Banned
People have to get ready for the fact whatever information the government does or doesn't have isn't really gonna be satisfying.
If they have no evidence of anything, people are gonna think they're still hiding something.
If they only have pictures, people are gonna think they're hiding the craft.
If they have a craft but say it's actually human technology, then people are gonna think they're hiding an alien craft
If they have an alien craft, but say it's completely unmanned, people are gonna think they're hiding a body
If they have an alien body, people gonna think they're hiding an interview with the alien.
And even if a month from now, a literal alien sits down and does an interview explaining everything about the universe...
how do we know that the alien is telling the truth, how do we know it isn't hiding something?
Shit, I mean, there's a decent chance that the full disclosure just reveals that the whole aliens phenomenon
is just a giant government psyop designed to increase interest in space.
If they have no evidence of anything, people are gonna think they're still hiding something.
If they only have pictures, people are gonna think they're hiding the craft.
If they have a craft but say it's actually human technology, then people are gonna think they're hiding an alien craft
If they have an alien craft, but say it's completely unmanned, people are gonna think they're hiding a body
If they have an alien body, people gonna think they're hiding an interview with the alien.
And even if a month from now, a literal alien sits down and does an interview explaining everything about the universe...
how do we know that the alien is telling the truth, how do we know it isn't hiding something?
Shit, I mean, there's a decent chance that the full disclosure just reveals that the whole aliens phenomenon
is just a giant government psyop designed to increase interest in space.
Chiggs
Gold Member
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
I love these posters who know the "real" truth.
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Chiggs
Gold Member
It can be tough to handle their hard-hitting truths but it will only make us smarter and savvier...just like them.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
I don't want to get myself banned for conspiracy theories but we went to the fucking moon and then just stopped. Why would the government need to increase interest in space and why go about in such a stupid way instead of "Hey space is cool we're going to explore" I swear everything is psyop to some people.
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Raonak
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Because they went to the moon 7 times and no-one gave a shit? Once the bragging rights of "man on the moon" was completed, there was no real point in going to the moon again after it became evident that it couldn't support life. The moon was too small, which meant it lacked of gravity (no atmosphere) and lacked a magnetosphere (no shielding from solar radiation)
The promise of life was the only real incentive to actually go into space. Once you rule out the moon, you gotta try mars. But... Mars is 100x further away from earth than the moon, getting there would require decades of technological advancements. To keep that funding alive and public interest from waning, UFOs were the low-cost way to keep people constantly talking about space exploration until the technology arrived.
These UFOs are literally designed to be observed and recorded, but physical evidence always removed.
They are designed to live up to their name: UNIDENTIFIED.
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MilkyJoe
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They're on it, fam
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AcrosstheSea
Banned
It's funny how I went from super excited about this stuff for the longest time and being so close to the possibility of it being a real thing to being extremely scared regarding it.
A few days ago I came across this 4chan ( i know i know ) post where this person seemed visibly annoyed about disclosure and that people don't know what they are even asking for. Needless to say the post was pretty terrifying and chilling.
Not long after I saw Luis Elizondo make a comment about why someone might not want to come forward with info that seemed to IMPLY the things that were said in said 4chan post.
The thing that's frustrating is this could very well be a massive disinformation campaign to prepare us for something entirely different or to get us fearful enough to increase military budget or it could just genuinely be what they claim it is........either way I'm less excited now.
Here's Luis and his comment for reference:
A few days ago I came across this 4chan ( i know i know ) post where this person seemed visibly annoyed about disclosure and that people don't know what they are even asking for. Needless to say the post was pretty terrifying and chilling.
Not long after I saw Luis Elizondo make a comment about why someone might not want to come forward with info that seemed to IMPLY the things that were said in said 4chan post.
The thing that's frustrating is this could very well be a massive disinformation campaign to prepare us for something entirely different or to get us fearful enough to increase military budget or it could just genuinely be what they claim it is........either way I'm less excited now.
Here's Luis and his comment for reference:
sono
Gold Member
One can imagine quite a lot of range of possibilities.
However can we at least get the government to at least answer to the question that we have proof we are not alone in the universe being public knowledge as step 1 ? That has to be one of the biggest questions we have had since time began!
Everything after is just syntax
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
That Elizondo comment was a bit scary. Did you see the 4Chan post from an alleged crash retrieval team member about how they are primarily underwater? Someone linked it here maybe a month ago, it’s quite a fascinating read.
Chiggs
Gold Member
This reminds me, what will happen first:
- UFO/UAP Disclosure
- The Abyss on 4K Blu-ray
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Obviously UAP/UFOs and the official announcement of a New World Order.
EverythingsOverrated
Member
I watched this a few weeks ago, the part on presidents that were possibly briefed, "maybe they were former directors of the CIA" was a particularly interesting tidbit. George HW Bush knew? Wouldn't be surprised.
Definitely an interesting interview. Elizondo is obviously being very careful with how he words things.
haxan7
Banned
Grusch confirmed to be one of the speakers at next week’s hearing
open.substack.com
EXCLUSIVE: Confirmed—UFO whistleblower David Grusch scheduled to testify in House hearing
Ep. 8 - Rep. Tim Burchett (7-19-2023) The witness list remains closely guarded, but Ask a Pol has confirmed the one witness at the heart of the investigation.
open.substack.com
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SpiceRacz
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Do you by chance have a link to that post?
MilkyJoe
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IlGialloMondadori
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Seems like he's suggesting there's a possibility this is a preparation for invasion?
Seems like this is all a justification for greater defence spending.
I'm bummed some whistleblowers backed out.Grusch confirmed to be one of the speakers at next week’s hearing
EXCLUSIVE: Confirmed—UFO whistleblower David Grusch scheduled to testify in House hearing
Ep. 8 - Rep. Tim Burchett (7-19-2023) The witness list remains closely guarded, but Ask a Pol has confirmed the one witness at the heart of the investigation.
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