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[sono]

The Angry Astronaut considers the question that if what David Grush and others are saying is actually true (that the government have UAP or other positive evidence of other civilisations in their possession) :

Why would the Government hide the truth about UAPs?​

As a mind experiment some of the possible explanations are actually quite uncomfortable possibilities ..

 

[Raonak]

The biggest question is why are these stories mostly only coming out of the US? The aliens seen to overwhelmingly be interested in the states.


Surely there must be a ton of these sightings and crashes in Africa, Europe, asia, antarcatica. etc. where government retrieval would be far less organized or not even possible.

That's (imo) the biggest hint that this is some sort of secret US project that is siloed from the rest of the US govt.

 

[haxan7]

The biggest question is why are these stories mostly only coming out of the US? The aliens seen to overwhelmingly be interested in the states.


Surely there must be a ton of these sightings and crashes in Africa, Europe, asia, antarcatica. etc. where government retrieval would be far less organized or not even possible.

That's (imo) the biggest hint that this is some sort of secret US project that is siloed from the rest of the US govt.

US is the dominant world power and also the cultural leader

 

[Raonak]

US is the dominant world power and also the cultural leader

Doesn't really explain why there's little to no activity elsewhere. You'd think they'd have some interest in china and India which have some of the largest populations on earth and are their own cultural leaders, or Japan which has the highest population density, or Africa is which is the largest landmass.

Hell, there should be thousands of crashed UFOs all over the ocean seabed and the fossil record. The world is billions of years old and yet we haven't managed to dig up even one of these crafts?

There's absolutely 0 chance that these flying objects only just started crashing in the last 50 years.

 

[MMaRsu]

there's little to no activity elsewhere

Thats not true at all.

we haven't managed to dig up even one of these crafts?

Says who?

 

[midnightAI]

Doesn't really explain why there's little to no activity elsewhere. You'd think they'd have some interest in china and India which have some of the largest populations on earth and are their own cultural leaders, or Japan which has the highest population density, or Africa is which is the largest landmass.

Hell, there should be thousands of crashed UFOs all over the ocean seabed and the fossil record. The world is billions of years old and yet we haven't managed to dig up even one of these crafts?

There's absolutely 0 chance that these flying objects only just started crashing in the last 50 years.

Because the chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one..... UUUUUULLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

[kuncol02]

The biggest question is why are these stories mostly only coming out of the US? The aliens seen to overwhelmingly be interested in the states.


Surely there must be a ton of these sightings and crashes in Africa, Europe, asia, antarcatica. etc. where government retrieval would be far less organized or not even possible.

That's (imo) the biggest hint that this is some sort of secret US project that is siloed from the rest of the US govt.

More people with untreated mental illnesses and US government using aliens as cover to testing new secret tech development (Project Mogul, Blackbird, SR-71, B2). That's just accident that last UFOs occurrences increase happened in same time as NGAD went into testing phase?

 

[MilkyJoe]

interesting

 

[Romulus]

Doesn't really explain why there's little to no activity elsewhere. You'd think they'd have some interest in china and India which have some of the largest populations on earth and are their own cultural leaders, or Japan which has the highest population density, or Africa is which is the largest landmass.

Hell, there should be thousands of crashed UFOs all over the ocean seabed and the fossil record. The world is billions of years old and yet we haven't managed to dig up even one of these crafts?

There's absolutely 0 chance that these flying objects only just started crashing in the last 50 years.

That's not even remotely true. Actually some of the best cases of all time are from other countries. The Belguim UFO wave is well documented.

Roswell and other US events have pop culture behind them. But an almost carbon copy of Roswell occurred in Brazil, and also a very similar encounter to the Nimitz situation happened there where fighter pilots testified in front of the nation that something was entering their airspace they couldn't explain. Early 1980s I believe.

Japan has its own ufo program that studies them and just had a government hearing months ago.

I don't think the crashes are that common at all so them being everywhere isn't sound. The intelligence officer reporting it now said one of them was found during an archeological dig and many were 'intact' as if they were left here.

The soviets and the US reported UFOs shutting down their nukes. There are multiple weapons officers that came out and reported a ufo directly above the base before it happened.

 

[MilkyJoe]

 

[MilkyJoe]

 

[midnightAI]

Ooof, thats a bad fake, at least make it look like its behind the telephone/power wires.

 

[Romulus]

 

[Badlucktroll]

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[sono]

The source of that is the latest Event Horizon Video

'.. New Hearings in Congress With Rep. Tim Burchett​

 

[sono]

MSN

www.msn.com

Avi Loeb dredging the Pacific Ocean with a Magnet. Its hard to make sense of it put like that. Even a needle in a haystack metaphor does not come close. Still you have to admire his eccentric enthusiasm for his task

 

[midnightAI]

Avi Loeb dredging the Pacific Ocean with a Magnet. Its hard to make sense of it put like that. Even a needle in a haystack metaphor does not come close. Still you have to admire his eccentric enthusiasm for his task

Yeh, this is like trying to find a needle in a haystack made with every piece of hay on earth.

 

[MilkyJoe]

thoughts?



Watch in full screen, its very high res

 

[sono]

The provided description of this interview:

This video recording contains an interview with mortician W. Glenn Dennis, alleged firsthand witness to events at Roswell Army Air Force Hospital concerning recovered alien bodies.

Creator(s): Department of Defense. Department of the Air Force

National Archives at College Park - Motion Pictures (RD-DC-M), National Archives at College Park, 8601 Adelphi Road, College Park, MD 20740-6001 Phone: 301-837-3540, Fax: 301-837-3620, Email: mopix@nara.gov National Archives Identifier: 2788762 Local Identifier: 341-ROSWELL-14


(you may wish to listen to on headphones turned up, the audio quality isnt great, particularly the person conducting the interview is very quiet, but you can hear both that way, I also found it easier to listen to at double speed)

 

[kurisu_1974]

thoughts?

Movement in the first clip looks very jerky and the object looks fake or superimposed. I don't see anything in the second clip.

Edit: ok some vague tiny black spot floats by near the end. It doesn't get me excited at all though.

 

[Romulus]

 

[22:22:22]

So much war but an almost (?) World wide treaty since 1 December 1959.





Entertaining theory. If true leads credence to "aliens" don't have to come from space persé. Although i don't dismiss that either.

So much possibilities! ❤

 

[Grildon Tundy]

I'm pretty hungover and having trouble processing...what's the main takeaway of that first video? The South Pole is bigger than the maps let on?

 

[22:22:22]

I'm pretty hungover and having trouble processing...what's the main takeaway of that first video? The South Pole is bigger than the maps let on?

That there's land beyond the ice wall and then some. Tropical etc.

Treaty is made to claim land/build bases and subsequently deny acces beyond. Which is still active.

A world wide treaty. While they're having war. Yet this treaty seems something they al agree about.. Hmmm.. Maybe It's not up to them?

The subsequent videos go into that but I'd leave that alone if i were you atm.

Those vids are old and godgevlamste first exposure to the bigger earth/moon map theory.

All i can say is sub. And start from the beginning.

 

[22:22:22]

I'm pretty hungover and having trouble processing...what's the main takeaway of that first video? The South Pole is bigger than the maps let on?

It also interconnects with lots of different theories that tie in and simultaneously contradict each other so cross referencing is a must thus different sources and I'm just enjoying the ride.

There's no explaining yet for me.

It's at least awesome SciFi.

Check out this channel as well.

https://youtube.com/@MindUnveiled

 

[sono]

thoughts

balls

 

[midnightAI]

'The moon is a reflection of earth...'

No, it isn't

 

[Ecrofirt]

 

[Razvedka]

Doesn't really explain why there's little to no activity elsewhere. You'd think they'd have some interest in china and India which have some of the largest populations on earth and are their own cultural leaders, or Japan which has the highest population density, or Africa is which is the largest landmass.

Hell, there should be thousands of crashed UFOs all over the ocean seabed and the fossil record. The world is billions of years old and yet we haven't managed to dig up even one of these crafts?

There's absolutely 0 chance that these flying objects only just started crashing in the last 50 years.

There's actually alot of activity elsewhere. It only seems like the US alone due to our size and 'reach' across the globe. Especially the anglosphere. Conversely, language barriers stifle alot of interesting activities from reaching us. South America is a hotbed of UFO activity for example.

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

Let’s keep flat earth crap out of this, please.

 

[Shodai]

That there's land beyond the ice wall and then some. Tropical etc.

Treaty is made to claim land/build bases and subsequently deny acces beyond. Which is still active.

A world wide treaty. While they're having war. Yet this treaty seems something they al agree about.. Hmmm.. Maybe It's not up to them?

The subsequent videos go into that but I'd leave that alone if i were you atm.

Those vids are old and godgevlamste first exposure to the bigger earth/moon map theory.

All i can say is sub. And start from the beginning.

I am all for a good conspiracy theory occasionally...but how are you going to have tropical plants in Antartica...Aside from the fact we should have pictures since long ago...the climate literally cannot support that type of foliage.

 

[Raonak]

I am all for a good conspiracy theory occasionally...but how are you going to have tropical plants in Antartica...Aside from the fact we should have pictures since long ago...the climate literally cannot support that type of foliage.

Maybe the planet has multiple suns lol

thoughts?



Watch in full screen, its very high res

The footage looks interesting, but when you read this guys full post, it sounds like the dude is on crack

... had a close encounter with the UFOs on 11-8-2012 and the Beings in them. They started coming back all the time after that event. They made some kind of connection to me. I have hundreds of videos of the UFOs from over the years. I'm just a normal person that something amazing happened to. You can not make up a story as crazy as what has happened to my family since 2012! This video is nothing compared to what we have seen them do. I have closeup 4K videos of them doing something amazing that the government and scientist should see. They can perform molecular manipulation on matter. The craft can change shape instantly and they can change other things also. I have videos showing them do this. I have a amazing story that needs to come out! I'm looking for scientist that are studying the UFOs that would be interested in helping me show this to the world. If you want to see the UFOs live contact me. You can set all your cameras and equipment up on my land and see the UFOs for yourself! Hundreds of the smaller UFOs like this came on 2-16-2023 and they had a giant mothership with them. That event was something special. They want to show us something! I filmed it on multiple cameras. I also want to show the government the videos we have filmed over the years and tell them the message the Beings gave me. We have keep this all secret until January of this year. Only some of the doctors treating me know about it and my lawyer. This is a long term ongoing event and I have medical records that show what happened to my body from the close encounter and I have many videos to prove all of this. Something major happened this year with the UFOs and something strange is going on now! They are NOT here to harm us. They are here to watch over us and to guide us. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! THIS IS ALL 100% REAL and these craft are 1000% not man made craft!!!

If he has lots of other videos, especially of the beings themselves, and them doing molecular manipulation... why not just post those instead?

 

[22:22:22]

I am all for a good conspiracy theory occasionally...but how are you going to have tropical plants in Antartica...Aside from the fact we should have pictures since long ago...the climate literally cannot support that type of foliage.

Resets/Vapor canopy cycles

 

[22:22:22]

Let’s keep flat earth crap out of this, please.

It's not about flat earth AT ALL so keep your uninformed crap to yourself please.

Also I was responding to Grildon Tundy as there's a connection with UFO and ALIENS in my responses.


That you and those that reacted to your post seem unaware of that is a you problem.

 

[6502]

It's not about flat earth AT ALL so keep your uninformed crap to yourself please.

Also I was responding to Grildon Tundy as there's a connection with UFO and ALIENS in my responses.


That you and those that reacted to your post seem unaware of that is a you problem.

Buckle up.
I flicked through and it seemed to be flat earth with a scifi b movie twist. The videos could have been more entertaining if they were not so low effort with little evidence to convince - the 3d maps which did not really match up despite his mirror / rotation. I would not have been surprised if the guy had an nft to collect to let us pass the two pillars.

 

[22:22:22]

Buckle up.
I flicked through and it seemed to be flat earth with a scifi b movie twist. The videos could have been more entertaining if they were not so low effort with little evidence to convince - the 3d maps which did not really match up despite his mirror / rotation. I would not have been surprised if the guy had an nft to collect to let us pass the two pillars.

Ok

 

[midnightAI]

It's not about flat earth AT ALL so keep your uninformed crap to yourself please.

Also I was responding to Grildon Tundy as there's a connection with UFO and ALIENS in my responses.


That you and those that reacted to your post seem unaware of that is a you problem.

It is mostly bullshit though isn't it, ramblings of YouTubers who go against what we know as fact.

It's all well and good questioning things, having alternate theories on how some things are, but when we have scientific proof of things (such as a globe earth) then I think it's time to let those alternate theories go.

Basically, those two videos you posted above are complete nonsense.

By the way, we (the public) can go to the Antarctic, and regularly do. The treaty was signed so that Antarctica would remain a demilitarised zone, it was done at a time when nuclear weapons testing was going on so that no weapons testing would be done there and it's primary use would be for scientific research. There aren't many people living there simply due to the climate (and lack of natural resources), it's a barren, extremely cold, sheet of ice. There is no Ice wall, there are no lush green lands, it's just mainly snow and ice.

 

[MMaRsu]

That there's land beyond the ice wall and then some. Tropical etc.

Treaty is made to claim land/build bases and subsequently deny acces beyond. Which is still active.

A world wide treaty. While they're having war. Yet this treaty seems something they al agree about.. Hmmm.. Maybe It's not up to them?

The subsequent videos go into that but I'd leave that alone if i were you atm.

Those vids are old and godgevlamste first exposure to the bigger earth/moon map theory.

All i can say is sub. And start from the beginning.

cmon bro.

 

[Raonak]

The bigger earth theory is so easily debunked that flat earth is even more plausible than it lol.

Literally the position of the sun, position of the moon, positions of stars, aurora, timezones, pictures of the earth, etc.

Not that flat earth is even that plausible in the first place, considering if there is land beyond the ice wall. Then it must be covered in eternal darkness. How do trees grow without light...?

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

Please create another thread with alternative earth views, then we can keep observable phenomenon (other than via youtube) in this one.

 

[MilkyJoe]

 

[midnightAI]

Wholeheartedly disagree, thats the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard and I can't believe anyone is taking it seriously...... the music must be Prodigy (RIP Keith Flint)

 

[MilkyJoe]

Wholeheartedly disagree, thats the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard and I can't believe anyone is taking it seriously...... the music must be Prodigy (RIP Keith Flint)

No way,

 

[midnightAI]

No way,

Ah, but if it all goes tits up they have a backup song.....

 

[sono]

Ah, but if it all goes tits up they have a backup song.....

Never forget

 

[SirKicksalot]

This post is a masterpiece. Over the last 2 years the biological drone idea became more and more widespread. This is the culmination of it:



The alien religion comment gives a neat context for what is otherwise a horrific design. Check out his comments too.

 

[Wheeljack539]

Yeah, I've heard the drone story as well over the years. That most of all "abductions" are actually carried out by these drones under certain compartmentalized parts of the military. Why they are doing so I've read as speculated as either keeping certain people quiet (the late 80s New York high rise abduction that was witnessed by a UN Ambassador was directed towards him); keeping the idea that all these aliens are nefarious to keep people fearful, etc. It's also the reason why a number of witnesses have often talked about blacked out vehicles like helicopters in the area after a ufo sighting.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

This post is a masterpiece. Over the last 2 years the biological drone idea became more and more widespread. This is the culmination of it:



The alien religion comment gives a neat context for what is otherwise a horrific design. Check out his comments too.

Interesting story....at this point nothing will make my . until hard evidence is shown.

for some reason the religion bit makes me think everything is fake.

 

[MilkyJoe]

That's deleted, was probably this

 

[Erebus]

Fascinating stuff, although I'm having a hard time believing that someone who knows all this info would suddenly go rogue, share it publicly and not expecting the government to go after them.