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[Zippitydodaday]

July?

Well more like June/Julyish when the documents become declassified or whatever.

I myself believe that there are extraterrestrials and inter-dimensional beings. I believe as a child I saw one of the cigar shaped ones before in NC.

Think about the radio waves and gamma rays and everything else out there we know exists but can not see with the naked eye. What else is there that we are unable see? Other dimensions are theorized to exists so can there not be beings within an area of space we can not see?

Scientists did years of study with LCD and Dmt going on trips trying to communicate with other beings from another “dimension.”

Also, I believe people are caught up on the UFO stuff too much and it’s much grander than that. It’s just the tip of the berg. There’s definitely a hidden power behind government that persuades a certain agenda. Good or bad idk. But if these crafts hold tech far superior to ours they may not want to let us know about them due to the fact of fear.

Then all the religious stuff, religious people can not wrap their heads around other beings than our own. Though they believe and Angels and a god. Maybe it’s a good time now to share these documents because I feel less people these days are religious. Do heavy religious people still believe that dinosaurs were put here by the devil and they didn’t exists? I remember something that there are people who believe that. Also, when do we get Evas? If these beings are angels, we need to put a team together.

 

[V4skunk]

Biff Clurton

The patents I posted are 100% real and is the same technology that can accelerate to 14,000mph in 1 second.
Nothing fancy just electro magnetic radiation and sound waves / vibration to get anti gravity.
Also ufo sightings have been documented for hundreds of years like the 1561 Nuremburg ufo battle.
Lets not even bother getting into India and the hindu religious books that are like Starwars.

 

[IDKFA]

What the common person knows is 20 years behind what the military has. So if one military is ahead by 10 years, then the tech is 30 years in to the future. With how quick the common person has seen things change in 30 years (in 1991 British TV only had 4 channels) the leap/change can be daunting to think about.

Combine that with how advanced the Chinese were/are and how advanced the Russians are in terms of flight, and how secretive both these groups are, i wouldn't be at all surprised if they were responsible. I saw their latest MiG (29? iirc) about 10 years ago, and the manoeuvres that it was pulling were unbelievable. So unbelievable were the manoeuvres that the crash team scrambled as they (and everyone else) thought it had gone in to a flat spin. It was just the pilot showing off.

Though i disagree entirely about foreign nations showing off tech. There are unbelievable lengths that some militaries go to, in order to protect even some of the most mundane advancements.

Then there are aircraft that we know about, that have top secret, secrets on them. The B2 stealth for example.

The tech being described in these first hand accounts is a lot more advanced than what the average person could expect in the next 30 years.

According to the descriptions, including the first hand accounts from military personnel, these craft fly with zero evidence of any propulsion system. That's crazy enough in itself, but the pilots also describe the way it darted around the sky at speeds that were too fast for a fighter plane to catch up with, and is also shaped like a tic tak or a cube, so no aerodynamic shape. Nah No way the Chinese or Russians have this sort of tech, or any other nation for that matter.

These craft have also been spotted by people well before the pentagon videos, as in decades before. If some nation did have this kind of bleeding edge technology, then this means they've been sitting on it for decades for apparent reason.

I know there have been secret aircraft before, but this is light-years beyond anything that is even remotely possible. The Stealth bomber for example was still a plane that ran on fuel. It was still within limits of current technological capabilities.

Fuck it. I'm a reasonable, logical man who is degree educated, but I'm throwing my hat into the ET theory. That is far more believable than one nation being a century ahead in technology than any other nation. Unless of course Wakanda really exists!

 

[Romulus]

I pretty much see these weekly now on YT.

 

[Reality Czar]

Have there been any videos of the actual ETs? That is the only thing that will convince me that they are real. I need to see a being. Not some flying ship. That could so easily be experimental technology.

I mean, you can buy a drone at retail. That means that that technology (which is responsible for many modern sightings) has been available to the military for decades. If you extract decades ahead from consumer drones, you probably get the kind of stuff people are seeing. So even if they are UFO's, it is more than likely simple craft developed by unknown humans on Earth. It does not need to even be a military or a nation. Very easily any number of craft could be anonymous inventors somewhere on the planet. It certainly is a more convincing argument than ETs. Finally there is video technology. It is so insanely easy to do motion tracking and photo or video editing with commercial software. All of these arguments are way more plausible than the pop science fantasy people embrace in place of religion nowadays.

Belief in UFO's is just one of many secular religions that have risen since the fall in popularity of the traditional ones. Unlike those, it has no moral structure, no narrative structure, nothing to really offer besides paranoia. At least with religions you learn the names of people and you see what they do. Why have we no video of aliens? If they are flying thousand of light years to come to this planet, why do they never get more than a few hundred feet away? If they are here, and if everyone on the planet has had phone cameras for 20 years, then where is that footage?

This is mostly looking at dots of light in the sky for 70+ years. it is more or less just an unknowable threat that can be used to demoralize and manipulate people. No wonder the gov't is so into it as of late.

Sightings are interesting to talk about, but I prefer more classic legends and myths. The folklore of Earth is far more appealing.

 

[Romulus]

China today also, looks exactly the same as the Kansas one above

 

[Romulus]

Have there been any videos of the actual ETs? That is the only thing that will convince me that they are real. I need to see a being. Not some flying ship. That could so easily be experimental technology.

I mean, you can buy a drone at retail. That means that that technology (which is responsible for many modern sightings) has been available to the military for decades. If you extract decades ahead from consumer drones, you probably get the kind of stuff people are seeing. So even if they are UFO's, it is more than likely simple craft developed by unknown humans on Earth. It does not need to even be a military or a nation. Very easily any number of craft could be anonymous inventors somewhere on the planet. It certainly is a more convincing argument than ETs. Finally there is video technology. It is so insanely easy to do motion tracking and photo or video editing with commercial software. All of these arguments are way more plausible than the pop science fantasy people embrace in place of religion nowadays.

Belief in UFO's is just one of many secular religions that have risen since the fall in popularity of the traditional ones. Unlike those, it has no moral structure, no narrative structure, nothing to really offer besides paranoia. At least with religions you learn the names of people and you see what they do. Why have we no video of aliens? If they are flying thousand of light years to come to this planet, why do they never get more than a few hundred feet away? If they are here, and if everyone on the planet has had phone cameras for 20 years, then where is that footage?

This is mostly looking at dots of light in the sky for 70+ years. it is more or less just an unknowable threat that can be used to demoralize and manipulate people. No wonder the gov't is so into it as of late.

Sightings are interesting to talk about, but I prefer more classic legends and myths. The folklore of Earth is far more appealing.

Another "its military drones bro" post that completely ignores 90% of what we're discussing.

 

[StormCell]

Have there been any videos of the actual ETs? That is the only thing that will convince me that they are real. I need to see a being. Not some flying ship. That could so easily be experimental technology.

I mean, you can buy a drone at retail. That means that that technology (which is responsible for many modern sightings) has been available to the military for decades. If you extract decades ahead from consumer drones, you probably get the kind of stuff people are seeing. So even if they are UFO's, it is more than likely simple craft developed by unknown humans on Earth. It does not need to even be a military or a nation. Very easily any number of craft could be anonymous inventors somewhere on the planet. It certainly is a more convincing argument than ETs. Finally there is video technology. It is so insanely easy to do motion tracking and photo or video editing with commercial software. All of these arguments are way more plausible than the pop science fantasy people embrace in place of religion nowadays.

Belief in UFO's is just one of many secular religions that have risen since the fall in popularity of the traditional ones. Unlike those, it has no moral structure, no narrative structure, nothing to really offer besides paranoia. At least with religions you learn the names of people and you see what they do. Why have we no video of aliens? If they are flying thousand of light years to come to this planet, why do they never get more than a few hundred feet away? If they are here, and if everyone on the planet has had phone cameras for 20 years, then where is that footage?

This is mostly looking at dots of light in the sky for 70+ years. it is more or less just an unknowable threat that can be used to demoralize and manipulate people. No wonder the gov't is so into it as of late.

Sightings are interesting to talk about, but I prefer more classic legends and myths. The folklore of Earth is far more appealing.

Your entry into this discussion couldn't be more presumptuous in tone, could it? LOL Welcome.

I don't disagree with your sentiment for needing to see an actual being, but you're falling into either-or logical fallacy territory when you dismiss a thing as experimental technology (meaning earth is its origin) if there is no being to be seen. There are other possibilities such as an alien civilization sending UAVs to study our planet -- we're sending machines to Mars, so why not?

Your whole next paragraph about consumer drones and the military being decades ahead of consumer tech is old discussion in this topic. We've been all over this and back again. The USS Nimitz incident is the one that most often conjures up the possibility of advanced military drones (ie. how else did the tic tac know the rendezvous location for the fighter jets and the Nimitz?). Where your simple explanation falls apart is in WW2 where similar craft are doing similarly outlandish speeds and maneuvers. Check mate.

I haven't much to say about your thoughts on UFO religion. I don't think anyone in this topic is religiously inclined by UFOs or aliens. In other words, if July rolls around the government releases some cold hard facts, my feel from this topic is that we hope it's somehow tied to US top secret experimental craft. That is the most ho hum explanation anyone should hope to hear. If it's not, then that certainly makes things more interesting. I don't think it will have the effect that you're suggesting. For me, for instance, you don't want me to think that your federal authority is no longer the highest power in the land. You're giving me a glimpse that I can supersede you somehow. Your federal authority just became frail if there are these supposed craft flying around violating all of your laws and ordinances... I should think it will be a bad day for governments all over the globe the day humanity finds out that there are powers and technologies that make us look primitive. I don't think newfound feelings of globalism is what will occur. In fact, I think it's likely to lead to revolutions all over the globe as we try to grapple with and tear down restrictions that are holding us back from directly, as you suggested above, seeing our adversary (or adversaries).

Czar, I think you're hiding your interest in these objects and trying to pretend, for yourself, that there isn't much substance to them by treating them like myths and fables. For decades, the government tried to hide that it knew anything about these UAP. To admit that these UAP are real suggests that there is a great big hole in our security. It makes the government merely human. It's like when you grew up and your former teachers from grade school are now just your peers. That's what our officials will be the day we all acknowledge that the UAP are something beyond our explanation.

 

[INC]

Have there been any videos of the actual ETs? That is the only thing that will convince me that they are real. I need to see a being. Not some flying ship. That could so easily be experimental technology.

I mean, you can buy a drone at retail. That means that that technology (which is responsible for many modern sightings) has been available to the military for decades. If you extract decades ahead from consumer drones, you probably get the kind of stuff people are seeing. So even if they are UFO's, it is more than likely simple craft developed by unknown humans on Earth. It does not need to even be a military or a nation. Very easily any number of craft could be anonymous inventors somewhere on the planet. It certainly is a more convincing argument than ETs. Finally there is video technology. It is so insanely easy to do motion tracking and photo or video editing with commercial software. All of these arguments are way more plausible than the pop science fantasy people embrace in place of religion nowadays.

Belief in UFO's is just one of many secular religions that have risen since the fall in popularity of the traditional ones. Unlike those, it has no moral structure, no narrative structure, nothing to really offer besides paranoia. At least with religions you learn the names of people and you see what they do. Why have we no video of aliens? If they are flying thousand of light years to come to this planet, why do they never get more than a few hundred feet away? If they are here, and if everyone on the planet has had phone cameras for 20 years, then where is that footage?

This is mostly looking at dots of light in the sky for 70+ years. it is more or less just an unknowable threat that can be used to demoralize and manipulate people. No wonder the gov't is so into it as of late.

Sightings are interesting to talk about, but I prefer more classic legends and myths. The folklore of Earth is far more appealing.

Theres penty of footage

Unfortunately it can be 100% and most will say its poor quality, well no shit ya filming something high up.

Theres confirmed footage, with reliable eye witness accounts of the pilots and radar crew, and ships crew, and its been confirmed as UAP or UFO, so not sure what else u need tbh, UAP and UFO are now confirmed as a real thing, so its no longer myth

Now what are these UAP or UFO, thats a completely different narrative, but its taken over 70+ years just to get a 'yes they're real and we have many many more cases yet to be released"

So they're no longer folklore or myth, they're a real thing, and of concern to military airspace, which tey should, since they have no idea what they are (or at least that's the story so far)

 

[StormCell]

Theres penty of footage

Unfortunately it can be 100% and most will say its poor quality, well no shit ya filming something high up.

Theres confirmed footage, with reliable eye witness accounts of the pilots and radar crew, and ships crew, and its been confirmed as UAP or UFO, so not sure what else u need tbh, UAP and UFO are now confirmed as a real thing, so its no longer myth

Now what are these UAP or UFO, thats a completely different narrative, but its taken over 70+ years just to get a 'yes they're real and we have many many more cases yet to be released"

So they're no longer folklore or myth, they're a real thing, and of concern to military airspace, which tey should, since they have no idea what they are (or at least that's the story so far)

Unless, of course, you want to spin it into a globalist scheme narrative where the earth must unite and follow an increasingly restrictive set of rules to survive this global threat!

Then again, I don't put anything past the socialists gaining power around the world. One big fat happy government with a never-ending supply of fear mongering about UAP and trying to solve the aliens.

 

[INC]

Unless, of course, you want to spin it into a globalist scheme narrative where the earth must unite and follow an increasingly restrictive set of rules to survive this global threat!

Then again, I don't put anything past the socialists gaining power around the world. One big fat happy government with a never-ending supply of fear mongering about UAP and trying to solve the aliens.

Sure no doubt, normally I would agree, but this isnt the a new thing to some following this for decades, just new to. media and general consensus are on board and catching up, 5 years ago you were still considered mental for even mentioning it, now we have government releasing videos saying they're legit.

But sure I'm not against it being a massive flase flag

But lll stick with what my gut has always thought, and thats that not all are military, because they have been spotted well before the internet, or even flight was a thing, and all sound very similar, that could be coincidence, but thats alot of coincidences, this is pre roswell when it became global phenomenon.

Anything post roswell could easily be military, and after 00's it gets even worse due to cgi being a factor

 

[Kraz]

Plenty o'psyops involved.

Canada has some nice UFO commemorative coins

Wonder if the recent Peachland incident will get one.

I watched Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind this weekend. Seemed like I was being sold something. Some interesting parts. Dipped into Panpsychism. Speaking of "globalist threat" the clip of Reagan referring to aliens as a convenient world threat to unite the planet was included. lol A few global and religious interests were presented to benefit from making aliens enemies. Reminders of what's included on the pinboard. The galactic mapping exercise Greer describes to draw the UFO encounters is a lot like occultist pathworking. Is this the Cabala mentioned earlier? The many worlds/planar mapping would seem much more appealing to the theorist, with pathworking results being a draw for the practicus. Regardless, the development and popularization of occultism is part of the human order and unsurprising to see appear. Regardie does have connection to the Amalantrah Working through Aleister Crowley who influenced his work. Maybe there's a seed of The Way.

The documentary puts most of its emphasis on the development of consciousness. A lot like The Secret with more step by step specific for alien encounters.
It did seem a lot like a Close Encounters of the Third Kind LARP to generate hysteria and self-promote. The results they claim are rightfully questionable.
6/10 sift carefully.

 

[INC]

Plenty o'psyops involved.

Canada has some nice UFO commemorative coins

Wonder if the recent Peachland incident will get one.

I watched Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind this weekend. Seemed like I was being sold something. Some interesting parts. Dipped into Panpsychism. Speaking of "globalist threat" the clip of Reagan referring to aliens as a convenient world threat to unite the planet was included. lol A few global and religious interests were presented to benefit from making aliens enemies. Reminders of what's included on the pinboard. The galactic mapping exercise Greer describes to draw the UFO encounters is a lot like occultist pathworking. Is this the Cabala mentioned earlier? The many worlds/planar mapping would seem much more appealing to the theorist, with pathworking results being a draw for the practicus. Regardless, the development and popularization of occultism is part of the human order and unsurprising to see appear. Regardie does have connection to the Amalantrah Working through Aleister Crowley who influenced his work. Maybe there's a seed of The Way.

The documentary puts most of its emphasis on the development of consciousness. A lot like The Secret with more step by step specific for alien encounters.
It did seem a lot like a Close Encounters of the Third Kind LARP to generate hysteria and self-promote. The results they claim are rightfully questionable.
6/10 sift carefully.

Steven Greer, what u expect. Dudes a joke.

He's here to enlighten you, to become enlightened all u need is $9.99, did he mentioned he cried, and was a ER doctor, and he can speak to Aliens, and its only $9.99

He's no different than evangelical preacher,

 

[Kraz]

Steven Greer, what u expect. Dudes a joke.

He's here to enlighten you, to become enlightened all u need is $9.99, did he mentioned he cried, and was a ER doctor, and he can speak to Aliens, and its only $9.99

He's no different than evangelical preacher,

He wiped a tear for fallen ufo comrades.

Mentioned more his work with CIA. lol

I'm into group hypnosis and the results that can be gotten. So there is some value in this material for me from the analysis of what they're doing and achieving.

I've not heard of him before this video. Definitely has that evangelical thing going on. Doing the I'm the voice between earth and heavens. Alien Pope!

 

[GAMETA]

I pretty much see these weekly now on YT.

Do you really believe this crap? Look from 30 seconds onward how it moves "weird" compared to the foliage, know why? Because the person who did this didn't even track the camera movement, making the movement and parallax all wrong. Notice how it disappears behind the next branch right before the person moves the camera rapidly too, it should appear behind the branch but it never does... know why? Because it's a pain in the ass to mask that too... not only this is fake, this is badly done.

"Hey look at the evidence, bro"

 

[Romulus]

Do you really believe this crap? Look from 30 seconds onward how it moves "weird" compared to the foliage, know why? Because the person who did this didn't even track the camera movement, making the movement and parallax all wrong. Notice how it disappears behind the next branch right before the person moves the camera rapidly too, it should appear behind the branch but it never does... know why? Because it's a pain in the ass to mask that too... not only this is fake, this is badly done.

"Hey look at the evidence, bro"

EDIT: I had to watch it fullscreen to see what you were talking about it and I do see it.
But I've seen 4 exactly like this in a month, another one I posted here from China with the exact shape and color. Also fake I assume? What the one from India from a week ago, fake too? Could be a collaboration fake.

But who said anything about this being hard evidence or anything at all like that?

 

[V4skunk]

To the guy that goes on about phone cameras!
We have no good pictures or video because phones don't have optical zoom worth while enough to take a picture at distance!
Don't believe me?
Take a picture of an aircraft at high altitude and tell us what it looks like lol.

 

[GAMETA]

Check this out, this is was taken by a Brazilian just now. Last week there were multiple eye witnesses in Brazil who reported strange objects hovering over their cities right before sunset.

According to him these 2 objects flew low for a minute and went straight back up to what seemed to be above the darker clouds. The eye witnesses last week reported similar cases, but some said there were up to 10 objects at once. They go down, as if to collect something, then back up to cloak into the clouds.

 

[StormCell]

Sure no doubt, normally I would agree, but this isnt the a new thing to some following this for decades, just new to. media and general consensus are on board and catching up, 5 years ago you were still considered mental for even mentioning it, now we have government releasing videos saying they're legit.

But sure I'm not against it being a massive flase flag

But lll stick with what my gut has always thought, and thats that not all are military, because they have been spotted well before the internet, or even flight was a thing, and all sound very similar, that could be coincidence, but thats alot of coincidences, this is pre roswell when it became global phenomenon.

Anything post roswell could easily be military, and after 00's it gets even worse due to cgi being a factor

100% agreed. Like, there's no reason to be of one extreme or another on this subject. We're pretty confident that some of these objects are not of earth/human origin. Evidence for this phenomenon extends as far back as written history itself. Nowadays, it is difficult to trust anything we see, especially in a digital format but also with our own eyes looking up into the sky. When the source is the government, that's about the best official evidence we're going to get short of becoming an abductee. Even then, you will always have to wonder what the motivation is for the feds to reveal these details. It's just a complicated world, and one cannot be certain that they haven't made some huge strides technologically.

Furthermore, it has been a subject of curiosity about how the Nazis managed to get as far ahead of the rest of the modern world as they did leading up to WW2. Where did that technology come from so suddenly? They were not that far off from using pure force to unite the globe under a single order.....

And is just me or is there mysteriously little if no talk of so-called 'foo-fighters' appearing during World War I? Why did they suddenly show up during World War 2? Is it possible that Germany was put on the course it was due to some extraterrestrial motive? How else do you roll out fighter jets, rockets, and automic bombs?

 

[Romulus]

100% agreed. Like, there's no reason to be of one extreme or another on this subject. We're pretty confident that some of these objects are not of earth/human origin. Evidence for this phenomenon extends as far back as written history itself. Nowadays, it is difficult to trust anything we see, especially in a digital format but also with our own eyes looking up into the sky. When the source is the government, that's about the best official evidence we're going to get short of becoming an abductee. Even then, you will always have to wonder what the motivation is for the feds to reveal these details. It's just a complicated world, and one cannot be certain that they haven't made some huge strides technologically.

Furthermore, it has been a subject of curiosity about how the Nazis managed to get as far ahead of the rest of the modern world as they did leading up to WW2. Where did that technology come from so suddenly? They were not that far off from using pure force to unite the globe under a single order.....

And is just me or is there mysteriously little if no talk of so-called 'foo-fighters' appearing during World War I? Why did they suddenly show up during World War 2? Is it possible that Germany was put on the course it was due to some extraterrestrial motive? How else do you roll out fighter jets, rockets, and automic bombs?

If it were the Nazis or any other world power, why didn't they use the tech to help win the war? The Nazis lost air power, so why not use the badass tech that was fucking with American pilots to actually engage in warfare? Makes no sense to me.

 

[INC]

100% agreed. Like, there's no reason to be of one extreme or another on this subject. We're pretty confident that some of these objects are not of earth/human origin. Evidence for this phenomenon extends as far back as written history itself. Nowadays, it is difficult to trust anything we see, especially in a digital format but also with our own eyes looking up into the sky. When the source is the government, that's about the best official evidence we're going to get short of becoming an abductee. Even then, you will always have to wonder what the motivation is for the feds to reveal these details. It's just a complicated world, and one cannot be certain that they haven't made some huge strides technologically.

Furthermore, it has been a subject of curiosity about how the Nazis managed to get as far ahead of the rest of the modern world as they did leading up to WW2. Where did that technology come from so suddenly? They were not that far off from using pure force to unite the globe under a single order.....

And is just me or is there mysteriously little if no talk of so-called 'foo-fighters' appearing during World War I? Why did they suddenly show up during World War 2? Is it possible that Germany was put on the course it was due to some extraterrestrial motive? How else do you roll out fighter jets, rockets, and automic bombs?

By having the best minds at the time, hence operations paper clip.

U have the myth of the nazi bell, Antarctica bases and all other bat shit crazy stuff

Do I believe in any of it? Well there's always a thread of truth in a lie. But I'll go no.

 

[Romulus]

Check this out, this is was taken by a Brazilian just now. Last week there were multiple eye witnesses in Brazil who reported strange objects hovering over their cities right before sunset.

According to him these 2 objects flew low for a minute and went straight back up to what seemed to be above the darker clouds. The eye witnesses last week reported similar cases, but some said there were up to 10 objects at once. They go down, as if to collect something, then back up to cloak into the clouds.

Is there a link to it?

 

[Alright]

The tech being described in these first hand accounts is a lot more advanced than what the average person could expect in the next 30 years.

According to the descriptions, including the first hand accounts from military personnel, these craft fly with zero evidence of any propulsion system. That's crazy enough in itself, but the pilots also describe the way it darted around the sky at speeds that were too fast for a fighter plane to catch up with, and is also shaped like a tic tak or a cube, so no aerodynamic shape. Nah No way the Chinese or Russians have this sort of tech, or any other nation for that matter.

These craft have also been spotted by people well before the pentagon videos, as in decades before. If some nation did have this kind of bleeding edge technology, then this means they've been sitting on it for decades for apparent reason.

I know there have been secret aircraft before, but this is light-years beyond anything that is even remotely possible. The Stealth bomber for example was still a plane that ran on fuel. It was still within limits of current technological capabilities.

Fuck it. I'm a reasonable, logical man who is degree educated, but I'm throwing my hat into the ET theory. That is far more believable than one nation being a century ahead in technology than any other nation. Unless of course Wakanda really exists!

With all respect, the average person is a moron. Though if ten years ago, you had shown me video of the beijing drones flying in formation to create shapes for the olympics i would probably lean towards drones. Show me that 20 years ago and I would have been at a loss. That drone tech existed longer than 20 years ago.

I can't talk about the tictac because yeah, its a shape we abandoned 100 years ago because of its' poor aerodynamic capabilities (we had zeplins that were tictac shaped). As for the propulsion systems, yes there are craft that have such small propulsion requirements that they look like they are self-propelled.

A light-year is a measure of distance but i know what you mean. There are parts of the Stealth bomber that are top secret, even knowing about their existence is Classified information (you might be able to find it on Wiki though)

ET's on the surface sound like the most logical explanation, but when you peel back the layers of what you're saying, it soon goes in to the realms of less logical. If another intelligent lifeform is indeed buzzing about our planet, how they travel is a question that would be way down the list.

Furthermore, it has been a subject of curiosity about how the Nazis managed to get as far ahead of the rest of the modern world as they did leading up to WW2. Where did that technology come from so suddenly? They were not that far off from using pure force to unite the globe under a single order.....

And is just me or is there mysteriously little if no talk of so-called 'foo-fighters' appearing during World War I? Why did they suddenly show up during World War 2? Is it possible that Germany was put on the course it was due to some extraterrestrial motive? How else do you roll out fighter jets, rockets, and automic bombs?

There's a few reasons that the Nazi's go as far in front with tech as they did, in some areas, and most of it comes from Mengler. The uncomfortable truth is that the experiments that were carried out on the Jews (And PoW's in Japan's Unit 731) pushed our understanding of technology ahead by decades. That, and Hitler wasn't just some genocidal maniac. He had spent time in Vienna in the 1910's/1920's with some great thinkers like Freud and Jung, among others. He was a man who knew the value of science and technology and, from what i understand, he let his team do what was necessary to get ahead. He also admired Britain and her Empire and how She achieved all of her advances. Even trying really far-out and whacky ideas. It's no coincidence that Operation: Paperclip led to a huge jump in American tech. We all know about Von Braun and Oppenheimer. What about the ones we don't know about? MK Ultra and the LSD tests were conducted with the help of 'former' Nazis

Planes were in their infancy during WW1. They were mainly used for Reconnaissance and to drop bricks, grenades and tar on the enemy from above. In some cases, the pilot would take a pistol and fire pop shots at the enemy. Before that, flying squadrons were made up of hot air balloons and the odd zeppelin. IIRC (and without using wiki) the first flying squadron was a french balloon squadron in the 1880's which IIRC, did report UFO activity. Don't take my word for it though, i'm going off of a rum-soaked memory, have a look online (I'm too lazy).

The Brits invented the jet fighter before the Nazi's. Though the Nazi's were well on their way to creating a mass-explosive device. Which is why 617 SQN (Dam busters) raided the dams using the absolutely genius 'bouncing bomb' (Seriously, the guy who invented that may well have saved the world) that they did; to slow the production of 'Heavy water' that the Nazi's needed for their Atomic Bomb. Just to go further off on a tangent; imagine if those raids didn't happen or weren't successful, Hiroshima and Nagasaki could have been London and New York.

 

[GAMETA]

Is there a link to it?

No, because I did it in Photoshop in 5 minutes.

Took a photo I had from my balcony, resized it, added the blurry objects and saved the file with bad compression to make the objects blend better.

See, that's the problem with videos of UFOs too, it's too easy to fake... Will a video take more than a few minutes? Sure, but it's doable by anyone that wants to do it.

Here's the original photo:

 

[IDKFA]

With all respect, the average person is a moron. Though if ten years ago, you had shown me video of the beijing drones flying in formation to create shapes for the olympics i would probably lean towards drones. Show me that 20 years ago and I would have been at a loss. That drone tech existed longer than 20 years ago.

I can't talk about the tictac because yeah, its a shape we abandoned 100 years ago because of its' poor aerodynamic capabilities (we had zeplins that were tictac shaped). As for the propulsion systems, yes there are craft that have such small propulsion requirements that they look like they are self-propelled.

A light-year is a measure of distance but i know what you mean. There are parts of the Stealth bomber that are top secret, even knowing about their existence is Classified information (you might be able to find it on Wiki though)

ET's on the surface sound like the most logical explanation, but when you peel back the layers of what you're saying, it soon goes in to the realms of less logical. If another intelligent lifeform is indeed buzzing about our planet, how they travel is a question that would be way down the list.

With all respect, the average person is a moron. Though if ten years ago, you had shown me video of the beijing drones flying in formation to create shapes for the olympics i would probably lean towards drones. Show me that 20 years ago and I would have been at a loss. That drone tech existed longer than 20 years ago.

I can't talk about the tictac because yeah, its a shape we abandoned 100 years ago because of its' poor aerodynamic capabilities (we had zeplins that were tictac shaped). As for the propulsion systems, yes there are craft that have such small propulsion requirements that they look like they are self-propelled.

A light-year is a measure of distance but i know what you mean. There are parts of the Stealth bomber that are top secret, even knowing about their existence is Classified information (you might be able to find it on Wiki though)

ET's on the surface sound like the most logical explanation, but when you peel back the layers of what you're saying, it soon goes in to the realms of less logical. If another intelligent lifeform is indeed buzzing about our planet, how they travel is a question that would be way down the list.

With all respect, the average person is a moron. Though if ten years ago, you had shown me video of the beijing drones flying in formation to create shapes for the olympics i would probably lean towards drones. Show me that 20 years ago and I would have been at a loss. That drone tech existed longer than 20 years ago.

I can't talk about the tictac because yeah, its a shape we abandoned 100 years ago because of its' poor aerodynamic capabilities (we had zeplins that were tictac shaped). As for the propulsion systems, yes there are craft that have such small propulsion requirements that they look like they are self-propelled.

A light-year is a measure of distance but i know what you mean. There are parts of the Stealth bomber that are top secret, even knowing about their existence is Classified information (you might be able to find it on Wiki though)

ET's on the surface sound like the most logical explanation, but when you peel back the layers of what you're saying, it soon goes in to the realms of less logical. If another intelligent lifeform is indeed buzzing about our planet, how they travel is a question that would be way down the list.

There's a few reasons that the Nazi's go as far in front with tech as they did, in some areas, and most of it comes from Mengler. The uncomfortable truth is that the experiments that were carried out on the Jews (And PoW's in Japan's Unit 731) pushed our understanding of technology ahead by decades. That, and Hitler wasn't just some genocidal maniac. He had spent time in Vienna in the 1910's/1920's with some great thinkers like Freud and Jung, among others. He was a man who knew the value of science and technology and, from what i understand, he let his team do what was necessary to get ahead. He also admired Britain and her Empire and how She achieved all of her advances. Even trying really far-out and whacky ideas. It's no coincidence that Operation: Paperclip led to a huge jump in American tech. We all know about Von Braun and Oppenheimer. What about the ones we don't know about? MK Ultra and the LSD tests were conducted with the help of 'former' Nazis

Planes were in their infancy during WW1. They were mainly used for Reconnaissance and to drop bricks, grenades and tar on the enemy from above. In some cases, the pilot would take a pistol and fire pop shots at the enemy. Before that, flying squadrons were made up of hot air balloons and the odd zeppelin. IIRC (and without using wiki) the first flying squadron was a french balloon squadron in the 1880's which IIRC, did report UFO activity. Don't take my word for it though, i'm going off of a rum-soaked memory, have a look online (I'm too lazy).

The Brits invented the jet fighter before the Nazi's. Though the Nazi's were well on their way to creating a mass-explosive device. Which is why 617 SQN (Dam busters) raided the dams using the absolutely genius 'bouncing bomb' (Seriously, the guy who invented that may well have saved the world) that they did; to slow the production of 'Heavy water' that the Nazi's needed for their Atomic Bomb. Just to go further off on a tangent; imagine if those raids didn't happen or weren't successful, Hiroshima and Nagasaki could have been London and New York.

Drones are one thing, these craft are on a totally different level. Speeds that shouldn't be possible to start with and flying patterns that defy our current understanding of physics.

Here is a quote from an interview with Chad Underwood, who was a US pilot who filmed the original Tic Tac video from 2004 (source of interview at bottom of the page)

The thing that stood out to me the most was how erratic it was behaving. And what I mean by “erratic” is that its changes in altitude, air speed, and aspect were just unlike things that I’ve ever encountered before flying against other air targets. It was just behaving in ways that aren’t physically normal. That’s what caught my eye. Because, aircraft, whether they’re manned or unmanned, still have to obey the laws of physics. They have to have some source of lift, some source of propulsion. The Tic Tac was not doing that. It was going from like 50,000 feet to, you know, a hundred feet in like seconds, which is not possible.

....normally, you would see engines emitting a heat plume. This object was not doing that. The video shows a source of heat, but the normal signatures of an exhaust plume were not there. There was no sign of propulsion. You could not see the thing that the ATFLIR pod should pick up 100 percent of the time: the source of heat and exhaust that a normal object flying would give you.

50,000 feet to a few hundred feet in seconds? No source of propulsion (not visible anyway), .....sorry man, these are experienced military pilots. Even the US government have no idea what these things are.

ET actually seems like the most logical explanation when we're talking about technology this far in advanced, plus the sources who saw it first hand.

If some other nation was keeping hold of this tech for the past 17 years, then we'd have know about it. I can't believe that some nation could hold onto this secret tech without another nation's intelligence agencies getting at least a whiff of it.

If another nation did have this type of tech, then why not show it off? It would, in a single stroke, make that nation the most technologically advanced nation on the planet. From a military point of view, with those sort of craft, they would be untouchable. What a deterrent that would be.

What's the most advanced US fighter craft? The F-35? Even not today, but the even the B2 Spirit was the cutting edge of tech when it was first developed. Did the US sit on these jets and keep them absolutely secret? No. They wanted their rivals to know about them. Same with the Russian SU-57. Governments like to show off their technological advances, not hide them away.

Believe.

Navy Pilot Who Filmed a UFO Speaks: ‘It Wasn’t Behaving by the Laws of Physics’

Chad Underwood, the Navy pilot who filmed the infamous ‘Tic Tac’ UFO video released a few years ago, gives his first-ever interview.

nymag.com

Edit - I have no idea how I've quoted you three times. Sorry about that

 

[Romulus]

No, because I did it in Photoshop in 5 minutes.

Took a photo I had from my balcony, resized it, added the blurry objects and saved the file with bad compression to make the objects blend better.

See, that's the problem with videos of UFOs too, it's too easy to fake... Will a video take more than a few minutes? Sure, but it's doable by anyone that wants to do it.

Here's the original photo:

I would assume so, it's a pic. Very different when there are like 5 videos from all over the world of extremely similar objects, and even then it's not full proof and doable to fake. I asked you for a link because there was just one form of "evidence." I would assume anyone could do that in seconds. You reported there to be eyewitnesses to and I wanted to see if it was a mass sighting reported by news outlets and more evidence of it visually.

 

[StormCell]

If it were the Nazis or any other world power, why didn't they use the tech to help win the war? The Nazis lost air power, so why not use the badass tech that was fucking with American pilots to actually engage in warfare? Makes no sense to me.

I'm not suggesting these foo fighters were the Nazis but rather aliens observing the Nazis with their newly acquired technologies. These aliens had a front row seat to watch World War 2 -- so what if they had an interest in Germany winning? Sure, they could have entered and ended the war quickly, but what if they needed some humans to unite the world under a single order? Like, what if they are waiting for that moment before formally revealing themselves?

As to why, I can only fathom that if some country like China pissed them off, the level of devastation dished out over there would have repercussions all over the globe.

 

[Romulus]

I'm not suggesting these foo fighters were the Nazis but rather aliens observing the Nazis with their newly acquired technologies. These aliens had a front row seat to watch World War 2 -- so what if they had an interest in Germany winning? Sure, they could have entered and ended the war quickly, but what if they needed some humans to unite the world under a single order? Like, what if they are waiting for that moment before formally revealing themselves?

As to why, I can only fathom that if some country like China pissed them off, the level of devastation dished out over there would have repercussions all over the globe.

Alien spectators lmao. Sounds fucking ridiculous but we've been conditioned to think it's impossible in our little bubble.

 

[INC]

No, because I did it in Photoshop in 5 minutes.

Took a photo I had from my balcony, resized it, added the blurry objects and saved the file with bad compression to make the objects blend better.

See, that's the problem with videos of UFOs too, it's too easy to fake... Will a video take more than a few minutes? Sure, but it's doable by anyone that wants to do it.

Here's the original photo:

And this why I dont trust anything passed early 00's.

 

[StormCell]

Alien spectators lmao. Sounds fucking ridiculous but we've been conditioned to think it's impossible in our little bubble.

I admit it's pretty far out there. Do you know what else is pretty far out there? Pretty much everything in WOKE/cancel culture... At this point, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that there are extraterrestrial special interests at play, politically, to steer the human race under one big socialist umbrella.

I'm not fully convinced that they're all wrong, politically, but it's not what I'd like. Oh well. None of it is surprising anymore, though. Outer space. Inner space (subterranean). Civilization on the sea floor. Some other dimension. The future. It's going to be something, and none of these are too ridiculous. lol

 

[Romulus]

I admit it's pretty far out there. Do you know what else is pretty far out there? Pretty much everything in WOKE/cancel culture... At this point, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that there are extraterrestrial special interests at play, politically, to steer the human race under one big socialist umbrella.

I'm not fully convinced that they're all wrong, politically, but it's not what I'd like. Oh well. None of it is surprising anymore, though. Outer space. Inner space (subterranean). Civilization on the sea floor. Some other dimension. The future. It's going to be something, and none of these are too ridiculous. lol

My brother used to be into Xfiles and had a stack of 90s UFO VHS docs. It was really an eye-rolling experience because I thought it was a waste of his time, and it might have been. But who knows how much of that shit might have actually been true now that I look back with current knowledge.

 

[ShinraMiddleMananger]

No, because I did it in Photoshop in 5 minutes.

Took a photo I had from my balcony, resized it, added the blurry objects and saved the file with bad compression to make the objects blend better.

See, that's the problem with videos of UFOs too, it's too easy to fake... Will a video take more than a few minutes? Sure, but it's doable by anyone that wants to do it.

Here's the original photo:

Theres a huge ufo hiding in the clouds dead center.

 

[GAMETA]

Theres a huge ufo hiding in the clouds dead center.

Yep, it's their mothership

All jokes aside, I took the photo exactly because of the clouds. They were fucking massive (the picture doesn't do them justice)... About 35 kilometers (~22 miles) after those mountains in the background is the Atlantic Sea, those clouds were some of the biggest I've seen... I thought we would be getting a storm but nothing happened.

 

[StormCell]

My brother used to be into Xfiles and had a stack of 90s UFO VHS docs. It was really an eye-rolling experience because I thought it was a waste of his time, and it might have been. But who knows how much of that shit might have actually been true now that I look back with current knowledge.

Turning this sightly more philosophical, anything can be a waste of your time. In fact, any time there is something you would rather be doing than the thing you are currently doing, the current thing could be considered a waste of your time. Although that's not a hard and fast rule.

Speaking of things from the '90s: every time I read or hear about one of these objects entering a body of water or a volcano, I think back to a set of text files I came across that described encountering people deep, deep inside of caves where you would never expect to randomly run across someone else. Now I'm left to wonder, did somebody know something over 20 years ago regarding where these objects are going when they behave like this? Are there bases and facilities deep within our planet that are housing these beings and their crafts?

 

[Romulus]

Pretty interesting hearing this reporter talk "off camera" about on the most famous modern mass sightings.

 

[StormCell]

Pretty interesting hearing this reporter talk "off camera" about on the most famous modern mass sightings.

I had forgotten about that. And since I don't watch a lot of UFO stuff on YouTube, I saw quite a few interesting videos like the Russians apparently making it public that they've encountered unknown craft and even alien beings in their lakes...

 

[Romulus]

I had forgotten about that. And since I don't watch a lot of UFO stuff on YouTube, I saw quite a few interesting videos like the Russians apparently making it public that they've encountered unknown craft and even alien beings in their lakes...

yeah the more I look into it, I remember dozens of credible encounters dating way back in many cases.

 

[Romulus]

 

[INC]

Going back to USO's



My theory a dolphin or whale etc with a buoy caught on it

 

[StormCell]

Seems like liberal thinking to me.

I want. I need. For someone to come to my apartment and tell me it's so dirty that it isn't up to regulation so that I must clean it and keep it clean. Or face the punishment and wrath of the Authority.

Meanwhile, I'm over here thinking "Holy sh*t, my earliest thoughts since coming into existence are all spot on. There are other beings on this planet with vastly superior technology, and we've got to be ready for that confrontation! Time to build the robot swarm!!!11!1"

 

[INC]

of course no doubt all fake, but its a bit of fun

 

[Romulus]

Seems like liberal thinking to me.

I want. I need. For someone to come to my apartment and tell me it's so dirty that it isn't up to regulation so that I must clean it and keep it clean. Or face the punishment and wrath of the Authority.

Meanwhile, I'm over here thinking "Holy sh*t, my earliest thoughts since coming into existence are all spot on. There are other beings on this planet with vastly superior technology, and we've got to be ready for that confrontation! Time to build the robot swarm!!!11!1"

The core of his thought process about technology and religion is interesting, why do politics need to be dragged into it exactly? Seems like a liberal. lol

 

[StormCell]

The core of his thought process about technology and religion is interesting, why do politics need to be dragged into it exactly? Seems like a liberal. lol

Because a certain kind of people require regulation and more laws in order to do the right thing.

When you come from a state that feels it must regulate all the things to protect them, you learn to despise the state for infringing on all your rights to enjoy the things.

 

[Leyasu]

of course no doubt all fake, but its a bit of fun

The second one with the scuba divers is a fucking good fake is that is the case. I personally think that that is one of the best vids on the net

 

[dcll]

My brother used to be into Xfiles and had a stack of 90s UFO VHS docs. It was really an eye-rolling experience because I thought it was a waste of his time, and it might have been. But who knows how much of that shit might have actually been true now that I look back with current knowledge.

You think ufo vhs is bad, my brother had stack of cheesy martial arts training and skateboarding vhs tapes. They were basically like the karate class in Napoleon Dynamite.

 

[dcll]

of course no doubt all fake, but its a bit of fun

Did you hear the JRE with the navy pilot who saw the tic tac craft? He told a story about a training told to him from a helicopter pilot where a craft came up and sucked down a buoy, it was pretty interesting

 

[Romulus]

Because a certain kind of people require regulation and more laws in order to do the right thing.

When you come from a state that feels it must regulate all the things to protect them, you learn to despise the state for infringing on all your rights to enjoy the things.

Eh, I still think you can take something from his thought process without politics.

 

[INC]

 

[Romulus]

Looks alot like these

 

[nikolino840]